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M&P Shield 9mm stuck rounds?! Help
Hello all, I'm a fairly new gun owner first of all. Second of all I feel silly with this being my first post. Here's my problem, I was running a few loading and unloading drills with live ammunition in my 8 round magazine. at the 5th round, I racked the slide back to chamber a round and the slide got jammed in the rearward position. It looks like a round is pushing on the chambered round and keeping the slide stuck. I'm unable to eject the magazine. Any help with this? Is there an easy way to unjam it?
UPDATE: Unjammed the round by pushing down on top round of magazine with the slide pulled as far back as possible. Weirdly, I think it might be an ammo issue. Doing this update because it doesnt let me delete thread.
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If you lock the slide back you should be able to drop the mag and clear the chamber.
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Glad you were able to figure it out.
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Hello all, I'm a fairly new gun owner first of all. Second of all I feel silly with this being my first post. Here's my problem, I was running a few loading and unloading drills with live ammunition in my 8 round magazine. at the 5th round, I racked the slide back to chamber a round and the slide got jammed in the rearward position. It looks like a round is pushing on the chambered round and keeping the slide stuck. I'm unable to eject the magazine. Any help with this? Is there an easy way to unjam it?
UPDATE: Unjammed the round by pushing down on top round of magazine with the slide pulled as far back as possible. Weirdly, I think it might be an ammo issue. Doing this update because it doesnt let me delete thread.
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That's also known as a 'double-feed' and does occur while live fire from time to time. There is a proper method for quickly clearing that type of 'malfunction/stoppage' (as described by 1sailor) so you can continue firing asap. Learning how to quickly clear various types of 'malfunctions' that can occur with a semi-auto pistol (Fail to Feed/Fail to Fire/Fail to Extract/Fail to Eject) is a must!
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03-28-2020, 06:24 PM
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It wasn't letting me eject the magazine. I attached the pic for reference.
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03-28-2020, 06:25 PM
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Glad you were able to figure it out.
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Thank you. Confused as to how it happened still. My guess is an issue with my ammo.
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03-28-2020, 06:32 PM
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It wasn't letting me eject the magazine. I attached the pic for reference.
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Sometimes it's tight and the mag won't drop out on it's own. Grab the pistol like normal. Hold the mag release button in with your right hand and pull/strip the magazine out with your left hand. It can take a good tug. (assumes pistol set up for right handed shooter)
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Thank you. Confused as to how it happened still. My guess is an issue with my ammo.
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See post #4 , it's called a double feed , happens occasionally in live fire and happens more often when hand cycling the action.
Just lock the slide back ...you will get the hang of un-jamming in no time .
Glad you got it undone easily .
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Double Feed
Perhaps you loaded a round directly into the chamber, not from the magazine, and lowered the slide too gently for the extractor to ride over the rim. The next slide cycle failed to extract the chambered round and jammed a round under the rim of the chambered round. The nose of the second cartridge is wedged under the first. The slide/extractor has caught the rim of the second round. That's the situation shown in your picture. You should be able to pull the slide back, maybe with some force, and latch it in the rearward position by pushing up on the slide stop. Then push/slide the second round back into the magazine. Won't be easy, but as soon as it's back a little bit the mag may be dropped.
For God's sake, do all this outside with the barrel ALWAYS pointed in a safe direction.
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You have to LOCK the slide back using the manual slide lock. That will ease the tension and allow the mag to be dropped. In the situation you describe the slide is NOT locked back.
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I have a question for the OP. You say you were practicing your "loading and unloading drills". Are you unloading your magazines by inserting them into the pistol and working the slide until it's empty?
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theodoremullins welcome to the forum and to the sport.
Glad you got the round out safely. The members of this forum are always here to help.
PLEASE do not run loading and unloading drills with live ammunition!
First: Its dangerous.
Second: Ammunition is not designed or meant to be chambered and ejected, loaded back in a magazine and so on a so forth.
Buy yourself some snap caps or dummy rounds to run loading and unloading drills.
In case you are not aware of the standard safely rules PLEASE memorize and follow these rules:
#1 Treat all guns as if they are always loaded.
#2 Never point the muzzle at anything that you are not willing to destroy.
#3 Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot.
#4 Be sure of your target and what lies beyond it.
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Originally Posted by Luger9x19
PLEASE do not run loading and unloading drills with live ammunition.
First its dangerous.
Second ammunition is not designed or meant to be chambered and ejected, loaded back in a magazine and so on a so forth.
Buy yourself some snap caps or dummy rounds to run loading and unloading drills.
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^^^^This!!^^^^
Using live ammunition for loading/unloading drills is a Negligent Discharge waiting to happen. Get some Snap Caps (they're plastic dummy rounds with brass bases) in your caliber and use them.
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Originally Posted by gwpercle
See post #4 , it's called a double feed , happens occasionally in live fire and happens more often when hand cycling the action.
Just lock the slide back ...you will get the hang of un-jamming in no time .
Glad you got it undone easily .
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Yeah, that's most likely the culprit. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by ggibson511960
Perhaps you loaded a round directly into the chamber, not from the magazine, and lowered the slide too gently for the extractor to ride over the rim. The next slide cycle failed to extract the chambered round and jammed a round under the rim of the chambered round. The nose of the second cartridge is wedged under the first. The slide/extractor has caught the rim of the second round. That's the situation shown in your picture. You should be able to pull the slide back, maybe with some force, and latch it in the rearward position by pushing up on the slide stop. Then push/slide the second round back into the magazine. Won't be easy, but as soon as it's back a little bit the mag may be dropped.
For God's sake, do all this outside with the barrel ALWAYS pointed in a safe direction.
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Thank you, I got it out by pulling the slide and pushing the round downwards back into the mag and the mag fell out. all rounds were loaded directly from the mag. This was all done with trigger safety on, outside.
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That's also known as a 'double-feed' and does occur while live fire from time to time. There is a proper method for quickly clearing that type of 'malfunction/stoppage' (as described by 1sailor) so you can continue firing asap. Learning how to quickly clear various types of 'malfunctions' that can occur with a semi-auto pistol (Fail to Feed/Fail to Fire/Fail to Extract/Fail to Eject) is a must!
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Double-feed caught me by surprise! Making an effort to familiarize myself with all these pistol malfunctions, thank you.
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You have to LOCK the slide back using the manual slide lock. That will ease the tension and allow the mag to be dropped. In the situation you describe the slide is NOT locked back.
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Slide was not locked, it was stuck in the most rearward position, manual slide lock did not work. Slide was stuck, but I got it out thank you.
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I have a question for the OP. You say you were practicing your "loading and unloading drills". Are you unloading your magazines by inserting them into the pistol and working the slide until it's empty?
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Sort of. I was practicing loading rounds into my mag, inserting my mag and chambering a round by racking the slide. Then returning it back to safety by releasing the mag and racking the slide to empty the chamber. I did it twice before it jammed on me so I'm thinking my racking technique might need some work?
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theodoremullins welcome to the forum and to the sport.
Glad you got the round out safely. The members of this forum are always here to help.
PLEASE do not run loading and unloading drills with live ammunition!
First: Its dangerous.
Second: Ammunition is not designed or meant to be chambered and ejected, loaded back in a magazine and so on a so forth.
Buy yourself some snap caps or dummy rounds to run loading and unloading drills.
In case you are not aware of the standard safely rules PLEASE memorize and follow these rules:
#1 Treat all guns as if they are always loaded.
#2 Never point the muzzle at anything that you are not willing to destroy.
#3 Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot.
#4 Be sure of your target and what lies beyond it.
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Thanks Luger9x19 for the warm welcome! I truly appreciate it, yes rookie mistake, I feel embarrassed I even had to start a thread about this, but hey everyone has to start somewhere. Thanks again.
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^^^^This!!^^^^
Using live ammunition for loading/unloading drills is a Negligent Discharge waiting to happen. Get some Snap Caps (they're plastic dummy rounds with brass bases) in your caliber and use them.
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Will do, thank you.
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Please go buy some snap caps..
Try the A-Zoom aluminum ones..
They should be easier than ammo to find currently
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We all started somewhere. Fortunately you can learn a lot in a short period of time from the internet if you can separate the good advice from the bad. It sounds like you have a good mindset of learning and that will take you a long way. There’s no substitute for in person training, plus classes are a lot of fun (when we’re all allowed out again).
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Well, that is one malfunction drill out of the way. Some things are good to experience early on. Definitely make sure the slide lock is engaged, that would hurt having the slide slam forward on a thumb or finger.
Good to hear you got it cleared safely. +1 on snap caps or dummy rounds.
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