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Strange things can happen from time to time when pocket carrying. I was carrying a derringer in my back pocket with no holster when one evening I took it out and found that somehow it had gotten cocked. From that point I never again carryed in my back pocket or without a pocket holster. A pocket holster may not have stopped the gun from cocking itself but at least the trigger would have ben covered.
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As has already been said, your trigger was not uncovered if it was in your pocket, because your pocket covered the trigger.
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With all this ridiculously excessive concern about making sure the trigger is covered and recovered and then covered again, I'm surprised you gentlemen don't just forgo the firearm altogether and just carry russian nesting doll style holsters inside of holsters inside of holsters.
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I use a pocket holster to protect my guns. Remora seems to work the best for me.
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As has already been said, your trigger was not uncovered if it was in your pocket, because your pocket covered the trigger.
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With all this ridiculously excessive concern about making sure the trigger is covered and recovered and then covered again, I'm surprised you gentlemen don't just forgo the firearm altogether and just carry russian nesting doll style holsters inside of holsters inside of holsters.
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While the material of a pocket physically covers the trigger, it does not do it in such a way that leather or kydex covers the trigger and will not allow it to be pulled. I can drop my pistol into my pocket and pull the trigger from outside the pocket. Also, if I were to accidentally put something else in the same pocket as the gun, the trigger is not protected without a holster.
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05-26-2020, 06:33 PM
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While the material of a pocket physically covers the trigger, it does not do it in such a way that leather or kydex covers the trigger and will not allow it to be pulled.
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Yes. Plaxico Burris tried to trap his falling pistol between his leg and his trouser leg. Unfortunately, his finger landed on the trigger and it discharged.
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05-26-2020, 07:19 PM
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While the material of a pocket physically covers the trigger, it does not do it in such a way that leather or kydex covers the trigger and will not allow it to be pulled. I can drop my pistol into my pocket and pull the trigger from outside the pocket. Also, if I were to accidentally put something else in the same pocket as the gun, the trigger is not protected without a holster.
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I'm not making a connection here. My pants fit me well enough that I can't manipulate the trigger from outside the pocket on pure accident. Even if I were to wear clown pants, I'm not making the connection on accidentally putting something else in my pocket, because I'm not irresponsible with firearms. The type of person that forgets they are carrying a firearm may not be responsible enough to carry a firearm to begin with, in their pocket or otherwise.
If one can fit a gun AND other stuff in one's pockets, one needs to consult one's wardrobe in a serious way. I still have this picture of a young man with his pants sagging so low that you can see his underwear.
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It makes it easier to draw than with the holster. Alot easier.
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Go with what works for you. I prefer a holster, but we are all different.
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I don't pocket carry anymore. When I did, it was my backup to my duty gun in a cargo pocket holster. My duty gun was a S&W Model 65-1 or 686-6. My backups were a S&W Model 37(ND), a Model 642-2 or a Model 12-2.
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As has already been said, your trigger was not uncovered if it was in your pocket, because your pocket covered the trigger.
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With all this ridiculously excessive concern about making sure the trigger is covered and recovered and then covered again, I'm surprised you gentlemen don't just forgo the firearm altogether and just carry russian nesting doll style holsters inside of holsters inside of holsters.
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If the hammer can be cocked in a pocket then so can the trigger be pulled Plus the fact that the derringer had no trigger guard making that a very dangerous condition.
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I have on occasion, recently, carried my 380 without. I also have a Don Hume holster if I feel the need.
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I am not one to pocket carry without a pocket holster. I do not suggest floppy suede or light fabric; possible with them to get a hunk of material into the "bang switch". We know what may happen next. DeSantis makes a pocket holster out of thick non-leather material. Works great and is cost effective. Several holster make pocket holsters out of boned leather. Any of the mentioned allow one to carry a "safe action" pocket pistol with the thumb safety disengaged. That's the fastest alternative when you really need the use of that pistol NOW.
One rule I always abide by is to carry nothing but the pistol in it's holster in the pocket. No key, coin, extra mag. Any of these present a "bang switch" activation possibility.
BTW practice with the pistol in this mode of carry.
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I'm not making a connection here. My pants fit me well enough that I can't manipulate the trigger from outside the pocket on pure accident. Even if I were to wear clown pants, I'm not making the connection on accidentally putting something else in my pocket, because I'm not irresponsible with firearms. The type of person that forgets they are carrying a firearm may not be responsible enough to carry a firearm to begin with, in their pocket or otherwise.
If one can fit a gun AND other stuff in one's pockets, one needs to consult one's wardrobe in a serious way. I still have this picture of a young man with his pants sagging so low that you can see his underwear.
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I'm thinking you don't wear cargo shorts, or pants from Duluth Trading... I can pocket carry a Glock 19, the pockets are so big. Could easily throw my keys in that pocket with my firearm if I am not paying attention. Young guys with their phone and head phones... I could see them throwing the headphones in the pocket with gun without thinking about it and the cord getting in with the trigger.
I can also push my finger down inside the trigger guard from outside of the pocket. Those are the concerns.
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Fan of the kydex Vedder Pocket Locker, well designed holster that hugs the leg, protects the trigger, and releases with just a thumb push on the draw.
For bigger pockets and small guns, like the De Santis as the slightly thicker bulk helps center the pistol in the pocket.
Years back, sat down at the dinner table at a family outing, and realized the barrel of the unholstered handgun in my pocket was pointing directly at one of my grandkids, and could feel it shifting around when I moved. Excused myself and went outside and locked it in the truck.
After that, when a handgun goes in my pocket, it is holstered.
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I'm thinking you don't wear cargo shorts, or pants from Duluth Trading...
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Are you familiar with Duluth Trading pants?
I am on their website looking at the full length pants. There are so many models with different pocket configurations. I'm thinking that the font pockets with vertical openings might be better for something like a Sig P365 in a Vetter holster. What do you think?
The Vetter/Sig combination does not work with the jeans that I have now. It carries fine, but the draw is really bad. I could never rely on it.
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Fan of the kydex Vedder Pocket Locker, well designed holster that hugs the leg, protects the trigger, and releases with just a thumb push on the draw.
For bigger pockets and small guns, like the De Santis as the slightly thicker bulk helps center the pistol in the pocket.
Years back, sat down at the dinner table at a family outing, and realized the barrel of the unholstered handgun in my pocket was pointing directly at one of my grandkids, and could feel it shifting around when I moved. Excused myself and went outside and locked it in the truck.
After that, when a handgun goes in my pocket, it is holstered.
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have bought and carried Mika's and still have all i've bought. feel they are better for revolvers than for semi auto. for semi autos i'm completely in the Vedder camp. can reach in a drawer at night and pick up my holstered Body Guard or RM380, put it in my pocket and take the pup out for her potty run. simple and safe.
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Are you familiar with Duluth Trading pants?
I am on their website looking at the full length pants. There are so many models with different pocket configurations. I'm thinking that the font pockets with vertical openings might be better for something like a Sig P365 in a Vetter holster. What do you think?
The Vetter/Sig combination does not work with the jeans that I have now. It carries fine, but the draw is really bad. I could never rely on it.
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I only have some of the cargo shorts and the pockets in those are large and deep. I can put a Glock 19 in those pockets, so when I carry a pistol in my pocket in those, it has to have a holster to keep it in place. I think the cargo pants are built the same.
The smallest pistols I have are the Sig P290RS and the Keltec PF-9. I haven't found a pair of jeans that I can carry either of those in.
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Not to go too far off the original posts question....I have a Bodyguard and Sig 938 and have tried them with and without holsters just around the house to see it I liked it. I didn't really like it because I just hate stuff in my pockets and the bigger that stuff it the more I hate it. What I did and to me its perfect is a ComfortTec Belly Band I can pretty much have empty pockets using that and the gun is snug into my body and very very accessible by me. For how much they cost its definitely worth a try to see how you like it especially if you live in a warm climate and wear shorts a lot.
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I'm not making a connection here. My pants fit me well enough that I can't manipulate the trigger from outside the pocket on pure accident. Even if I were to wear clown pants, I'm not making the connection on accidentally putting something else in my pocket, because I'm not irresponsible with firearms. The type of person that forgets they are carrying a firearm may not be responsible enough to carry a firearm to begin with, in their pocket or otherwise.
If one can fit a gun AND other stuff in one's pockets, one needs to consult one's wardrobe in a serious way. I still have this picture of a young man with his pants sagging so low that you can see his underwear.
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Responsible with fire arms/carry without a holster
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