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Old 10-14-2020, 07:25 PM
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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For those of you that own or have shot both, which do you find to be more reliable and the least ammo picky?
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Old 10-14-2020, 07:41 PM
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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This is just going by everything that I've heard and none of it has been good about the Glock 44 and if it was me I wouldn't even consider it and that's coming from someone that loves my Glocks! To be honest I'd give a hard look at the Taurus TX22 way ahead of the Glock and as far as the S&W .22 I don't have any info on that one.

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Old 10-14-2020, 09:41 PM
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Have not shot my compact M&P 22, but my full size is incredible. Feeds everything, very accurate with everything. If you have shot 22 semi autos, that is not historically the norm. I have not shot many of the latest crop of 22 semi's from the modern field, but I shot plenty from days of yore. The M&P 22 rules! I like shooting it a bit more than my 41, but not as much as my 2206. Beats the pants off my 422, but that was probably me. I found the 422 difficult to shoot well, for me in those days gone by, because it was so light. I did better with a little more mass.
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These users seem happy with their TX-22s.

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Old 10-14-2020, 10:41 PM
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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Question: Which is more reliable, M&P22C or Glock 44?
Two of three answers: Taurus TX22.
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Old 10-14-2020, 10:43 PM
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I highly recommend the S&W 22 compact. Have owned and fired at least 2k and it’s been 100 % reliable. Just my opinion and results.
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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Question: Which is more reliable, M&P22C or Glock 44?
Two of three answers: Taurus TX22.
Hey, I resemble that remark...

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Old 10-15-2020, 09:43 AM
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Question: Which is more reliable, M&P22C or Glock 44?
Two of three answers: Taurus TX22.
Gotta love the internet part two.

You go on a S&W forum and ask which is better a Smith or a Glock. Ask the same question on a Glock forum and I'll bet the answers will be different.

At any rate I have an M&P 22 Compact and don't have any complaints about it.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:45 AM
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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You go on a S&W forum and ask which is better a Smith or a Glock. Ask the same question on a Glock forum and I'll bet the answers will be different.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. I saw a lot of complaints about the G44 being unreliable on GlockTalk. Lots of fanboys over there too but whining about how the small 9mm Glocks and the G44 don't hold as many rounds as the competition are a major pastime over there.

My S&W 22 compact is as good as it gets when it comes to reliability with a 22 pistol. Its still a 22 so its not as reliable as a centerfire pistol but fed good ammo it works very well. Like all semi-auto 22s if you feed it junk ammo expect a lot of malfunctions. I don't see a need to own both a S&W 22 compact and a Glock 44 so I have no first hand knowledge about how they compare.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:46 AM
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I have the Plastic M&P Compact. It is very reliable, 100% on MiniMags.
It is light and wobbly with a fair to middlin trigger.
A friend has a G44. It is shooting well after only one trip back to Smyrna. The rental range gun is reportedly trouble free from the start.
It is even lighter with a typical Glock trigger.

I don't know about him, but I am shooting mine less now that the novelty has worn off, I can get better hits with a full size gun - M41 for this board - and I want more power for concealed carry.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:45 PM
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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I've never fired a Glock 44. The few Glocks I've handled never got past the handling part. I'm simply not a Glock guy, 2X4s cut into the shape of a gun just aren't comfortable to me.

I do have the M&P 22 Compact. It feels good, balances good, fires consistently, and is as accurate as any pistol with a three and a half inch barrel out there. I would assume the G44 to be it's equal in all but feel/comfort. That is the subjective trait.
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I haven't fired a Glock 44 but have the S&W. The S&W seems to work fine but personally I think the Ruger SR-22 is the best of that category of pistols. The one I have has never jammed and eats any kind of ammo I've used.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:56 PM
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I truly wish there was some sort of objective, statistically accurate answer to all these questions about reliability, accuracy and durability. Sadly there is only anecdotal evidence. I suppose that real, unbiased evaluations would cost money and no manufacturer is willing to risk having its products come in second. OTOH, at least we have these forums, much better than manufacturer's advertising claims.
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Don't have a Glock but do have the M&P. It has been 100 percent reliable from the start, and that's with cheap range ammo. I have read reviews that say that the Glock is ammo sensitive.
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I truly wish there was some sort of objective, statistically accurate answer to all these questions about reliability, accuracy and durability. Sadly there is only anecdotal evidence. I suppose that real, unbiased evaluations would cost money and no manufacturer is willing to risk having its products come in second. OTOH, at least we have these forums, much better than manufacturer's advertising claims.
Do a web search on "M&P 22 Compact vs Glock G44", and you'll get as many "objective" comparisons as there are, many video side-by-sides as well. True statistical comparisons of akin firearms aren't as simply compiled as, say, ammunition ballistics and such.

I've never seen a completely bias-free comparison of most products, including guns...
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I currently have a Glock 44 and had an M&P Compact .22 for over a year. Only reason I parted with it was to make sure an old friend had some kind of pistol at home during these trying times. Never had any problems with the MP Compact. I like my G44 but has had a (high round) failure to feed every time I have taken it to the range – including with Stingers. The rounds go too high and jam against the top of the chamber. From what I have read, it would probably run better with non-HP ammo but most everything I have is HP. Selling my G44 as soon as I can find a new M&P Compact.
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I had a Compact but didnt trade it for a little Glock but went for a Victory. Not that the Compact wasnt reliable as it ate everything I have it. But for me it was just a fun little plinker and not as accurate as my Buckmark is and ended up not being used anymore. So went the Victory route for another range toy (very pleased with it).
The Compact can be a great little gun, just didnt fit my needs as much as I would have preferred.
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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Question: Which is more reliable, M&P22C or Glock 44?
Two of three answers: Taurus TX22.
Yes, but, it is a very valid option, and has been proven to be very reliable, and nice to shoot. It also has a great grip, great trigger, and is 16+1. Nice gun.

If you are trying to practice, and carry the Shield, the M&P 22C has a similar grip, so that would be a plus for the M&P 22C. If you just want a nice 22 to plink, it's nice to have a larger magazine, and a nice trigger, and grip. So, Taurus TX22.

The Glock? The Taurus has a better trigger, and, it's a Glock. If you like Glocks, and the way they feel, it will work just fine.

S&W M&P 22 Compact or Taurus TX22

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I truly wish there was some sort of objective, statistically accurate answer to all these questions about reliability, accuracy and durability. Sadly there is only anecdotal evidence. I suppose that real, unbiased evaluations would cost money and no manufacturer is willing to risk having its products come in second. OTOH, at least we have these forums, much better than manufacturer's advertising claims.
Pretty much true for every gun on the market. Getting stats on guns is more difficult that testing cars. It takes time, patience, money for ammo and the ability to work Microsoft Excel properly. Maybe this last item is the major sticking point.
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As I have a G19 I have wanted a .22 Conversion Unit forver but every one I borrowed never was all that reliable and very ammo picky...

When the G44 came out I held off until the bugs were worked out... After one of the posters on the Bushcraft forums posted that his new G44 had run 100% with 9/10 brands of ammo tried and the only one that didn't was Ely Match I ordered one...

Have run several different brands of ammo and all have run 100%. Bought one of the threaded barrels and it too has run 100% with and without the suppressor attached with several different brands of ammo.

Don't have it here, but just read a Gun Test article comparing the G44, S&W and Ruger LCP. Once the G44 broke in after about 300 rounds it ran 100%...

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Thanks to all those that have replied. I realize this is a Smith & Wesson forum and I realize that the quality of .22 ammunition varies greatly. I value the opinions of the members of this forum and have found that the members here are generally more civilized and provide honest opinions regardless of the brand of firearm.
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Question: Which is more reliable, M&P22C or Glock 44?
Two of three answers: Taurus TX22.
Yep - that what happens around here and most other forums... ask a question and get a detailed answer about anything but your question! Oh yeah - S&W Compact is my go to trail gun (because Iím not afraid of bears that run from me on sight)
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Yes, but, it is a very valid option, and has been proven to be very reliable, and nice to shoot. It also has a great grip, great trigger, and is 16+1. Nice gun.

If you are trying to practice, and carry the Shield, the M&P 22C has a similar grip, so that would be a plus for the M&P 22C. If you just want a nice 22 to plink, it's nice to have a larger magazine, and a nice trigger, and grip. So, Taurus TX22.

The Glock? The Taurus has a better trigger, and, it's a Glock. If you like Glocks, and the way they feel, it will work just fine.

S&W M&P 22 Compact or Taurus TX22
Didn't say it wasn't a good gun. From everything I've read, it has quite a following. I said it was non-responsive to the OP.

"Which is more reliable, A or B?" presumes questioner is looking for an answer of A or B, but on the Internet, the responses frequently are C-Z.

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Get both. I have never shot the G44 but a friend that visits here has a 22C and I have never witnessed a malfunction in that particular handgun.

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Didn't say it wasn't a good gun. From everything I've read, it has quite a following. I said it was non-responsive to the OP.

"Which is more reliable, A or B?" presumes questioner is looking for an answer of A or B, but on the Internet, the responses frequently are C-Z.
Yep, welcome to the internet. And there is really nothing wrong with it. The original question had really already been answered.

Personally, I'm surprised no one tried to steer the OP away from .22, saying that the 40 caliber was the bare minimum they should get.
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I have shot both.
If both weapons were on the table and the owner told me I could have the glock or pay for the S&W I would choose the S&W.



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IMHO it really comes down which one you like better.

If you have a G19, and want cheap trigger time, the G44 makes sense.

If you don't like the feel of a Glock and just want a fun .22, the Smith will make you happy.

We have a .22 conversion for my wife's G19, and an M&P Compact .22, which I bought mostly as a suppressor host. I will choose the M&P every time. My wife prefers the M&P, but mostly shoots the converted Glock because her issue gun is a G23, and it's cheap practice.

The only problem with the M&P .22 Compact is the rear sight. The design is ****, and you'll find yourself looking for the sight blade on the ground. A set of Dawson sights fixed that particular problem for me.
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I own M&P22 Compact. Pure USA, no Walther parts anymore. Never have had a single malfunction. Great shooter. Accurate, fast, reliable.
The only concern... S&W did not keep size of original M&P Compact pistol.
22 is about 15% shrunk version, close to Shield size.

Glock 44 keeps the size of the Family which is great for uniformity... I don't like Glocks, so my words about model 44 won't count.
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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I own both of those guns, my smith is "very" picky of ammo. cci worked the best cheaper ammo jammed a lot. the smith is heaver and I like the sights a little better. the glock is a really light gun but it fired every thing I feed it, also it is identical in size to the glock mod 19. I like the trigger on the smith better, the 44 has the typical glock pull.

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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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For those of you that own or have shot both, which do you find to be more reliable and the least ammo picky?
The Ruger Standard.
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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The Ruger Standard.
Another non-responsive answer that has nothing to do with the question asked. Nicely done.
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M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable? M&P 22 Compact or Glock 44. Which is more reliable?  
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Another non-responsive answer that has nothing to do with the question asked. Nicely done.
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I would choose the Glock.
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