Everyone that has tried it really likes the trigger in the new Shield plus. Its more a matter of when, not if, it makes its way into the rest of the M&P line.

How long do you think it will take?

I am guessing a year or two. I would have thought S&W was so busy selling everything they make right now they would not want to take time to change anything but they proved me wrong with the new Shield so maybe it will happen sooner.

Moving the trigger to the rest of M&P line is not like designing a new gun and I have heard people say they do not buy M&Ps because they prefer the trigger of other striker fired guns. It seems like it would be a fairly easy way to increase market share.

Yes, I know aftermarket triggers are available now but like to keep the trigger stock on anything that might be used for self defense. I replaced the trigger on my AR and use lighter than stock rebound springs in my revolvers but all the other triggers are stock.

Yea, hopefully soon. Its taken too long IMO. Apex has been very profitable due to the S&W banana shaped trigger with a mile of take up. I dont want to spend $100+ for the Apex just to have a nice trigger that should already be on their top of the line pistol models.


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Not soon enough.

The trigger is the only reason why I don't own.

M&P M3.0? Hopefully soon... but I'm opting for 1 - 2 years. I think S&W still have thousands of hinged triggers in warehouses and under contracts. Everything has to be sold first...

So far I'm happy Apex trigger owner... I'm not sure if S&W can be close to this one... shape is not the only feature to be changed.

I paid like three hun for my 2.0C, I still feel like I'm ahead even if I eventually upgrade the trigger.

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I hope never.

I doubt it, but it would be great if they made the new trigger available as a stand alone purchase for the rest of the line.

I too would also assume that the change if it happens will only happen when the supply of the hinged triggers are all used up..
What gets me is how they painted the frames on the "Plus" Series
If the color was the issue they would have just change it..
Could be they wanted to make the frames have a less aggressive texture & wanted to use up the 2.0 frames.
I Like the aggressive 2.0 texture & many other folks add the sandpaper tape to their carry guns..

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S&W waited a Year or two to see how well people received the original Shield trigger before integrating it into the rest of the M&Ps, so I'm guessing they will wait to see what the overall verdict is on the new trigger before rolling it into the others.

Off topic, but I installed a polymer Apex trigger shoe (no other parts) in my original M&P9C quite a few years ago. While it was a pain to install, the results were pretty incredible, considering it was just a shoe replacement. I'd like to compare the new Shield Plus' trigger to my -9C as well as a newer M&P series hinged trigger to see how different they feel.

I hope soon. Got to hold and dry fire a Shield Plus yesterday and loved the trigger. I owned a M&P 9 1st gen and 2.0. Both were sold off shortly after purchase due to the two piece trigger. 1st gen felt really mushy. 2.0 was a little better but still bothered me. If they update it I will buy a third.

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I hope never. This new trigger design is terrible.

The Shield is supposed to be a defensive gun. As such, the number one priority is functional reliability. This new trigger design is a failure waiting to happen.

With the way the trigger drop safety works, it's super easy for a small piece of debris to get behind that lever and prevent the trigger from working at all. That means you wouldn't even get one shot off. That is potentially life threatening.

If they add this trigger to all M&Ps it will be a disaster for the whole line.

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Freedom isn't free.

Not to hijack the thread but S & W has to work on the slide release and safety too. They are too small and should be extended a few thousands of an inch.

Not much difference with how the new trigger, an Apex trigger, or the stock hinged M&P triggers work. Without un-hinging or fully depressing the safety tab, the triggers catch the frame. The point that catches on the frame rotates up in all cases. Not really much of risk. Its more likely something gets trapped between the finger guard and the bottom of the trigger shoe. Even then properly storing or holstering the gun will mitigate the risk.

Shortly, I hope.

I have an M&P 2.0 performance center gun, and a performance center Shield. I much prefer the Shield trigger. Smooth take up, and then, click/boom.

I would put one in my M&P in a heartbeat.

Hopefully sooner then later. The new Shield is close to Apex. Which the Apex rocks!!!!

I called S&W last week and asked them if they plan on making the Shield Plus trigger available for the M&P's. The tech said NO, never.

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How many guns are too many?

S&W seem to have the philosophy that the lever in question is a slide lock, not a release, so I cannot see them changing it any time soon.

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You're assuming that Smith & Wesson will update the M&P line to use the Shield PLUS trigger, which isn't for certain because that depends largely upon how many Shield PLUS models are sold as well as the overall response to the new trigger. I've heard some say that they dislike the Shield PLUS trigger for a variety of reasons, if the overall reception towards the new trigger is lukewarm or otherwise cold, then Smith & Wesson most likely won't integrate it into the overall design of the M&P Series.

That being said, assuming that they do adopt it, then I figure that they'll wait a year or two at least until they come up with a few other improvements, then make the PLUS trigger a part of the 3.0 series.

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This is not a true statement.

The original design of the M&P line was to make serious inroads into the law enforcement market and to provide a handgun for defensive use without undue danger of negligent discharge. It did/does that superbly.

I can understand the desire of those who punch paper to have a trigger with a shorter, crisper and possibly lighter pull. However, these are not the characteristics you need/want when the adrenaline is pumping. Yeah, yeah, I know 'you're' an exceptional shooter who can handle the situation. I've seen enough negligent discharges with service style triggers-and a very few with world class shooters in matches-that I think the current thing where those with the yen can throw a few bucks at Apex or others to get what they think they need is both a good and prudent thing.

IMHO, what a slew of folks need to do is spend their money on practice ammo and some lessons from folks who know how to teach shooting. Gonna go get some popcorn and a soft drink now.

i agree i suppose that's the reason people keep the stock trigger in their defensive firearms. i never understood trigger jobs and things of that nature. seems like a crutch to me.

Maybe it's just me, but with all the shields in 9 and 45 that I own, they all have oem triggers and they work just fine for me. I do have 2 Shield Plus's, well, 1 is the wife's and I do like the triggers but the 1.0 and 2.0 shields triggers work just fine.

I don't have a problem with my 2.0 compact's factory trigger. It's not the best trigger, but not the worst, either.

I've not fired a Shield Plus, but my Taurus GX4 has a similar, although flatter faced, trigger which is quite nice. It's not a light trigger, but it's smooth and relatively crisp. I would assume the Shield Plus trigger to be similar in character. If so, it would be a reasonable upgrade to the rest of the line.

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Or something like that . . .

The gx4 looks more like a v trigger then a flat one to me.

Hmm. Interesting ideas here. It seems that if we're worried about negligent discharges, that we worry about training the person and not the features on the gun. If reducing/eliminating the likelihood of NDs is dependent upon the physical features and safeties of a gun, then the mantra about gun safety (muzzle in safe direction, finger off trigger, etc.) and rules is ... moot? Just double the weight, pull, and change the design to make it harder??

Additionally, it seems many guns are judged "defensive" or LEO "safe" by trigger weight, not a hinge vs. wing design. The "almighty" Glock has a nearly flat wing design, and clearly it's a defensive gun. For all of the years that 1911s were (still remain) the gold standard, does a short, crisp trigger assembly mean they are not defensive guns? Just thinking "out loud" here...

I hate to resurrect a necro-thread, but there's a point that needs to made. Yes, people need to be trained both initially and have continuing sustainment training. However, research with sensor equipped guns (either Simunitions or MILES/equivalent) shows that under stress, even highly trained and experienced people can have their trigger digits on the trigger-sometimes with surprising force-when they shouldn't. There's also something called trigger verification reflex where the trigger digit keeps checking the trigger to make sure it can still reach the it.

Add in the hormonal dump that often happens under stress and the various effects, you don't want short travel, short reset, light weight triggers on defensive firearms. This could go on, but I'll cut it short. The 1911 is mentioned. Recognizing all the above, that particular platform got it's glowing reputation with an issue trigger that generally went 6-7 lbs.

Yes, the rule about safe(est) direction can mitigate-to varying degrees-the results of an OOPS, but you'll be the one defending a trigger outside manufacturers specifications in the face of an ND that results in injury or death

I might have been in a fever dream, but on the S&W website, there was an M&P compact depicted with the flat face trigger. The future is here.

I for one HATE "the swinging dingus" in the trigger......might as well buy a glock since they've almost NOW copied them to the letter. I have 3 Shields the the original articulating trigger that I like......All you fellers out there raised on plastic pistols probably favor the "dingus".

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I just recently added two S&W Shield 40's, 2.0 to the bunch and I love the triggers as they are.

They'll faze them in as they sell through the existing inventory. Local store had a decent sale last week...all models with old trigger.

Its a slide lock , use the over hand pull bak done .

I recently emailed S&W customer service that question. “Thank you for your inquiry. Unfortunately, we do not have access to any updates on the firearms.”

I guess that means CS isn’t trusted with company future plans.

I just ordered a M&P 2.O Compact FDE and it has the Shield Plus Trigger!I should have It right after the 4th of July!

While it looks similar, I do believe the new triggers they are using are still not EXACTLY the same as the Shield Plus trigger. They do look a little different.

I sure hope it has the same feel!

The website shows the 10mm with it, but not the other calibers.

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All of the new optic-ready M&P have the new flat-face trigger. The take-up and break feel exactly the same as before with the curved trigger since they didn’t make any changes to the striker block or sear. The only difference is the shape of the trigger and reduced over-travel. I like it better than the old curved trigger, but it’s still no Apex.

I called S&W last month and was told they will NOT sell triggers. Apparently the liability lawyers have control of their parts department.

Have you shot a Shield Plus? Do they feel similar? I suspect the Shield Plus triggers are better. But, I can see why they don't want anything too light on a duty gun

Yes, I have both and the Shield Plus trigger is easier to shoot even though the M&P Compact/Full-size trigger is objectively better. In the examples I’ve shot, the Shield Plus trigger has less take-up while the Compact/Full-size has a slightly lighter and cleaner break. The Shield Plus is almost like a forward set trigger when compared to the Compact/Full-size.

Another factor is that the Shield Plus sear is more like the M&P 1.0 and not the M&P M2.0 sear; it doesn’t actuate by the trigger bar pushing a lever.

The problem with the hinged trigger is that it requires finger placement lower on the trigger than might be natural. Almost everyone who has tried it felt the trigger safety pulling over the frame until I explained the quirk. The trigger-centered safety lever is a better design. Because of this my Springfield didn't require learning finger placement.

Thanks for the info!

I've owned 3 digits worth of guns over the years - to me, the Shield Plus Performance Center factory triggers are the best I have ever felt on a polymer handgun.

I was at the LGS today and looked at the 10mm with the Plus-shaped trigger, and I can say that it's a good trigger. Not exactly the same as the Plus, but very close; maybe with some break-in it will be closer. If they put this trigger in the full size .45 I'll buy one.

it's an easy enough replacement from what i can tell. so i think they'll just let parts sellers handle the task of giving legacy pistol owners that option. obviously, they're going to want to keep it exclusive to the new factory guns ie 10mm, the new line of 2.0s, and the plus factory standard as a selling point. some people may be on the margin of upgrading and that might push them over the edge

I really like the trigger on my Shield plus , wish the new full size had the same one it would be a upgrade .

freestone armory on ebay is selling shield plus triggers and the description says it's backward compatible with 1.0 and 2.0 as well.

For $160

I paid that for (4) APEX polymer triggers for my 1.0 M&P's.

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How many guns are too many?

With the way things are going now, with everyone coming up with something newer and "better" all the time, guessing there will be a newer trigger out before the Shield Plus one has time to be the "universal standard" for the entire S&W product line