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Old 05-23-2009, 06:38 AM
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I have a new M&P Pro, 9mm and am interested in having an "External Safety" installed (like the one on my 1911).
I seem to recall they can be Ordered that way from the Factory, but mine did not come with that feature.
Anybody know if S&W will perform that work and if so, what the price may be?
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The M&P 9 Pro is set up for IDPA/SSP and USPSA Production competition.
It is not available with an external safety, and I can't think of a more useless modification for this specialty competition model.

Other M&P models are available with external safeties, mostly to satisfy department requirements, not because the design requires them.
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HEY OK-The guy asked a simple polite question and for that he got your opionated snarky response.I dont know about him but there are alot of us that come here to learn about features of certain guns and not be assailed by know it all ceretins sitting in some dank room,in their underwear ,typing some smart a$$ remark
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HEY OK-The guy asked a simple polite question and for that he got your opionated snarky response.I dont know about him but there are alot of us that come here to learn about features of certain guns and not be assailed by know it all ceretins sitting in some dank room,in their underwear ,typing some smart a$$ remark
texasmike,
Your post is way out of line.
A little easier on the trigger there. I don't see Ok's answer as all that snarky. Only one phrase is even opinion. He even gives a link to the catalog comparison page.
Lighten up.
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HE-Dont think I overreacted at all-I never post on these threads but time after time I see these smart a$$ comments on some new person and after a while I see a big long post by a moderator about civiity or a post by others defending their actions.Quite frankly I dont care how you consider my first post If you wish to discuss this further will send my contact information.
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Quite frankly I dont care how you consider my <STRIKE>first</STRIKE> last post If you wish to discuss this further will send my contact information.
That's OK, I don't need the contact info.
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It is my understanding that as of just recently, the Full, Mid, and Compact sizes are available with the External Safety, optionally, which, I am assuming was due to Customer or market demand. Maybe S&W felt it was in their best interest from a Liability perspective, but that is a whole other topic that I am not trying to raise.
Unfortunately, it appears I bought mine just a little too soon.

If one were to have a Trigger tuning on this gun, which takes up a lot of the slack in the trigger before it engages and fires, it seems to this newbie that what little there was in the way of safety is greatly diminished.

Mine is the 9-Pro version and also does not have the safety interlock to prevent firing with the Magazine removed.
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All models of the M&P have a firing pin block. The pistol won't fire unless the trigger is pulled to disengage the safety.
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JJA327.
Yes, I am aware of that ... what concerns me is; if one were to have a "trigger tune up" which may make the slack you have to take up before engaging the trigger, much less, in effect, you are significantly diminishing the one and only safety you have.
Trying to make the trigger system work more like a 1911 is, in effect, disarming or diminishing your only safety.
That's why I'd like to have a traditional 1911 type safety as well.
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texasmike:
What the heck is a ceretin?
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What the heck is a ceretin?
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Ed: Google it and you'll learn... and maybe even get "faster"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rod:
I recognized it as a pharmaceutical but have never seen it used to describe an individual. My Webster's certainly doesn't have it listed. Kind of like if someone referred to me as an ibuprofen.
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Rod:
I recognized it as a pharmaceutical but have never seen it used to describe an individual. My Webster's certainly doesn't have it listed. Kind of like if someone referred to me as an ibuprofen.
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You're right, Ed... it was a rather "creative" word usage.
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do believe he meant cretin....look it up
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do believe he meant cretin....look it up
You know, I'll bet you're right... never thought of that... just a typo.
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You make a good point about safety. In particular, I believe a person who is new to guns needs to develop confidence with their weapons. In part, that confience comes from being comfortable with the hardware, and the safety mechanisms which are available. I say - if you want a safety on your gun, no one should denigrate your decision. All that matters here is - are you a good and safe shooter.

I am right next door in Weatogue. Let me know if you ever want to get together for a range session at Metacon. My email is in my profile. And welcome to the forum.
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