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Old 03-06-2012, 11:32 PM
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Would anybody else like a .308 / 7.62 version of the M&P 15?
What would be a good model number?
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I asked for this last Christmas. They could call it the M&P Super Sport.

And I am still waiting.........
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Seems most 308's are on the AR10 platform. I've heard of feed issues with the 7.62 uppers for the AR15 platform. Could be why they don't offer them.
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S&W makes a lot of the rifle components in-house, including the receivers. Creating an AR-10 platform would involve high initial expense, and the product probably wouldn't sell well compared to their other money making models. I think they are focusing on the 300 Whisper/300 BLK chambering, which makes a lot more sense. Low cost to set up production, it fits into their current product line well, and this cartridge has a lot of "coolness" factor right now.

You can buy a 15-22, M&P 15, and a 300 BLK upper, and have a broad range of calibers that will do everything from plinking to hunting. That is a really good place for them to be right now with their product line.
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They already make it......M&P 15 W






Dragon 88 is correct this is whats hot and S&W wants a slice.....
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Yeah. But it's not what I want. A longer cartridge like the .243 and .308, like the R-25 offers is what would be the ticket. For me.
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Yeah. But it's not what I want. A longer cartridge like the .243 and .308, like the R-25 offers is what would be the ticket. For me.
Hell, I feel the 308 is marginal. I'd like MORE........


In reality, it would not cost S&W much at all to get the same suppliers of lowers to several other makers to cast them a bunch of lowers and then have S&W logo stamped on and do their own final machining.
That's how it is done right now. They are under a giant umbrella with several other firearm manufacturers, and already share production on various things.

I'm patient. I can wait. They will come around.
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LOL, if you just want someone else's parts with a particular name, just skip the name and buy the other parts.
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I have been lusting for one of these. Thanks alot for getting me thinking again!

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In reality, it would not cost S&W much at all to get the same suppliers of lowers to several other makers to cast them a bunch of lowers and then have S&W logo stamped on and do their own final machining.
That's how it is done right now. They are under a giant umbrella with several other firearm manufacturers, and already share production on various things.
Go buy one of those other manufacturers' rifles then. If that's all you want. The advantage of S&W in the AR-15s is they make receivers and some parts in-house, meaning you get more rifle for less money. If all you want is random parts sourced and slapped together, you can find that all over the internet.
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I bought the 300 whisper M&P 15, and when my Guns and Ammo magazine came yesterday, there is an article in it on my new gun, how nice!

I was surprised to see it say that the AR-15 platform was more accurate than any bolt action rifle.

I'm pretty stoked about this new rifle. I'd seen it at the gun show the last two or three times I went at the dealer in which I bought it. I looked it over real good 3 or 4 times while browsing last Saturday and decided I needed more knowledge on the ammo. Could only find the 300 AAC blackout ammo, so I bought some, and the rifle. Not sure why, but they had it priced at 900.00, best online price I could find was right at a grand and best price online I could find the upper only for was 700 bucks. I'm really diggin the camo on it. Put a red dot on it for now, but not sure what it'll end up with.

I might actually buy a suppressor for this rifle.
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Go buy one of those other manufacturers' rifles then. If that's all you want. The advantage of S&W in the AR-15s is they make receivers and some parts in-house, meaning you get more rifle for less money. If all you want is random parts sourced and slapped together, you can find that all over the internet.
Even the parts they outsource are under the supervision of S&W Quality Control Inspectors who hand choose parts from the source's bins on site. Final machining and assembly is all done in house at S&W.

The very expensive LMT I pictured above is almost totally machined in housefrom billet and a real work of art.

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Oh you want the NATO 7.62X51 load....






that LMT is sick, I want one too. Now I just need to clear $2500 with the wife!!!!
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Go buy one of those other manufacturers' rifles then. If that's all you want. The advantage of S&W in the AR-15s is they make receivers and some parts in-house, meaning you get more rifle for less money. If all you want is random parts sourced and slapped together, you can find that all over the internet.
I already have one........ My point is, the parent company of S&W makes the lowers and uppers; another makes the barrels, and then triggers and accessory parts are sourced from yet another shop. But, they are all literally under the same roof. Much of it is made by S&W machines, and stamped with another name and sent out. It's not a leap for S&W to make these, it's just a matter of time before they bang a few out. S&W simply turned part of the production around to in house machines, and so cranking out their own lowers means they wait less time than they would if they were on the list with Stag as before. The lowers are still sourced from a foundry who is making them for many folks- the machining work is now in house. Barrels are still made with the machines that turn out the Thompson barrels, and they do not do melonite treatment in house; that is a separate location.

It will get here; it's just taking some time. When it comes, I'll be first in line for another 308.
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Would anybody else like a .308 / 7.62 version of the M&P 15?
I would. If it existed, I'd buy one tomorrow.


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That's easy. The M&P 15 derived it's name from "AR-15".

The .308 AR platform is the AR-10. Call the S&W version the M&P 10.

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I would take one in .308 but I am building a Palma Match Rifle in .308 presently. My little dream AR is in .243 Winchester. That to me would be a great hunting rifle.
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I would take one in .308 but I am building a Palma Match Rifle in .308 presently. My little dream AR is in .243 Winchester. That to me would be a great hunting rifle.
I'd like to see the general troops deployed with this round. At 100 gr. it is a whole other animal than the 5.56. And downrange velocity/ energy is really really good.
I always thought "Just how good is the 223, when compared to the 243, 22-250?" It sure is an impressive flat shooting bullet. But wind will jockey it, and though downrange accuracy is really great, the hit power diminishes pretty quickly.
The 22-250 is a scorcher; no 2 ways about it. First time I shot one, it fell to the ground about 50 feet in front of me, about 3 seconds after I shot. I was pretty depressed. Then, my shooting partner laughed and said "Well, it only took it 3 seconds to fly completely around the world, and then it ran out of gas right here in front of us....." An awesome accurate round, but still light.
The 243 can smack stuff pretty hard out to 400 yards. I would not desire to try an elk with it, but the last time I hunted elk, a guy did just that. One clean shot, and it dropped after a short run. I was amazed. But I have been really happy with the performance out to 300 yards on hogs with mine, and had I been deployed with that vs the 5.56, I can think of a couple of times the extra muscle would have been appreciated.
When compared to the myriad of other rounds being flirted with by the military, I can understand their desire to stick with the base platform of the ar15. It's a shame it is just 5/16" too short to support the 243. It would shred a 6.8spc or a 300 blackout in overall performance.
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I have started collecting and researching parts, using the AR10 platform. I think if I had an AR in .243 it would make most of my other rifles obsolete. There are some I would keep just for sentimental value and others just for collector value but I would end up getting rid of 5 rifles just because I wouldnt need them or probably use them anymore. It took me over two years to build my first Mauser custom so I give myself 2 years to build an AR10 in .243 (fingers crossed) Hoping someone comes out with a reasonable priced AR10 platform in the mean time!!! LOL
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My 308 is around 30 buks per 20.
that's 2 full 30 rnd mags for 100 buks, so about 2 minutes of fun.
Definitely not a plinker.
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I've a 6.5 x 257 bolt gun for you...... Hot rod
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Tell me more, I am always interested in loading weird ammo!!
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My 308 is around 30 buks per 20.
that's 2 full 30 rnd mags for 100 buks, so about 2 minutes of fun.
Definitely not a plinker.
Yeah I wouldnt use a 243 for plinking either..it would take me all day to load up enough ammo for an hour of shooting and no magazine dumps!!! I havent done a mag dump on my sport yet. dont want to waste the ammo!!!!
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you can neck down a 35 rem. resized to 308 then resized to 257.
It's in an Arisaka short carbine, very nice gun. Custom barrel.
Some call it a wild cat.
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you can neck down a 35 rem. resized to 308 then resized to 257.
It's in an Arisaka short carbine, very nice gun. Custom barrel.
Some call it a wild cat.
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Well folks, seems as if you are in luck. Smith & Wesson released their AR10 (.308 or 7.62x51) at the shot show Jan 18th 2013. I was able to purchase one through gunbroker but haven't put it into action yet. My local range is under construction. Now if I can only fins some reasonable, non Russian corrosive ammo
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I just seen the new s&w m/
p 10 in 308 in one of the gun rags for $1200. Now with the threat of a new gun ban I may want one too. I've been very happy with my new Russian Izmash Saigas in 223($259) and In 308win($289). The 308 Saiga with its 16" barrel gets 1 1/2" groups at 100yds using south african surplus 308 ball ammo. But I really don't have an ar at all yet but I'm interested in the s&w m/p 10 in 308.
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p 10 in 308 in one of the gun rags for $1200. Now with the threat of a new gun ban I may want one too. I've been very happy with my new Russian Izmash Saigas in 223($259) and In 308win($289). The 308 Saiga with its 16" barrel gets 1 1/2" groups at 100yds using south african surplus 308 ball ammo. But I really don't have an ar at all yet but I'm interested in the s&w m/p 10 in 308.
Got 2 AR-15's and a 15-22 would love to add a AR10 to the family .308 nice longer range shooter. Watch some of the S.A. ammo read some old reviews about it from 2009. Don't know if all that ammo has dried up and newer stuff is out there or not. This was used in a bolt gun I think.
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The LE Version SKU 311308, has one 20 round P MAG. I received mine last week, took it to the range and was impressed with the weapon. At 100 yards with a Nikon M 308 Nikoplex scope and M308 mount I achieved a 2 inch group after 10 rounds. Sweet performance with 168 Grain Winchester Match cartridges, could of used one of these years ago in the military. I recommend it if you have a FFL dealer that gives a LE discount on this SKU number. $1149.00 can't go wrong for that price, the discount bought the scope.
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