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03-15-2013, 12:05 PM
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Talk to me about the MP10... Talk me into it or out of it....
The price point on the S&W MP10 is amazing for the current times. Love the look of the gun, it'll handle the same as my MP15. Just love the looks of the platform.
I want one. I just don't know if I need one.
My uses Hunting.
Cons:
Heavy
Harder to recover fired brass
Soon as you pull the trigger next round chambers. Have to unload to exit tree stand.
Don't have alot of 308 ammo.
If you have to shoot Southpaw brass flying at you
Pros
Familar manuel of arms.
Rapid follow up shots.
Good Range.
Proven Caliber
Ammo is going to cost more, I'll be heavier than a bolt gun.
Come on folks why do I need one? Other than a picking off zombies several hundred yards out. Why do I need a MP10?
What's everybody using theirs for?
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03-15-2013, 12:13 PM
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So far just using mine for zombies... not much time for anything else since i got it.
cons?: bigger kick, bigger noise
pro: bigger hit!
so far i have found it harder to find accessories, magazines, ammo.... but that is probably true for any gun right now.
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03-15-2013, 12:37 PM
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Re: Talk to me about the MP10... Talk me into it or out of it....
Gonna be using mine for mostly ground hog and coyote around my parts. I could use something else but the AR platform is awesome, esp. M&P models, and the .308 round is THE round! Screw that lil .223 pea shooter :P
Little info on ballistics out at 400 yrds, .223 hits in the neighborhood of 350 ft-lbs of force, same distance in .308 equals almost 1600 ft-lbs of force... Winner winner chicken dinner!!!
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03-15-2013, 04:21 PM
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There is nothing a .223 can do....that a .308 can not do better. I am waiting to see the groups it can shoot. It TSHTF it would be my prefered rifle. Yea, its heavier and ammo costs more....but when a .223 just does not quite do it...all of that goes away.
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03-15-2013, 05:59 PM
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Re: Talk to me about the MP10... Talk me into it or out of it....
I dont have any pics, ill try remember to do that, but we had bowling pins and a steel targets out at 230 yrds. Hitting them all day long with that thing...
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03-16-2013, 04:46 AM
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I don't think it's that heavy. Plus the cool factor!
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04-04-2013, 12:14 AM
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Get it. it's an AR10 you WILL be extremely happy.
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04-04-2013, 06:02 PM
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Cons
Heavy
Not as bad as some other AR10 types
Harder to recover fired brass
Depends on if you're in the woods or not, at a range its no biggie, throws em in the same general area
Soon as you pull the trigger next round chambers. Have to unload to exit tree stand.
You afraid to put a weapon on safe and let it hang off your back? Get a good sling
Don't have alot of 308 ammo.
Could buy some... you'll have to buy ammo for whatever you shoot anyway, right?
If you have to shoot Southpaw brass flying at you
True, ive yet to shoot mine lefty.
Pros
Familar manuel of arms.
Yup
Rapid follow up shots.
Oh ya
Good Range.
Ive taken my out to 340yds quite accurately
Proven Caliber
Yup
I really enjoy mine thus far. I need to work on my consistency a little more, I'm not a crazy good long range shooter or anything. A good trigger is going to help, tho.
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04-26-2014, 03:45 PM
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Any thoughts out there on glass for the M&P10? Have the camo Hunter model- going to use primarily for deer & pigs. Have the Nikon P-223 on my AR15 and like, particularly the BDC feature. Would like a similar scope in camo. Help me here!?
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04-26-2014, 08:34 PM
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I bought mine for deer hunting and all around fun shooting! A lot of deer are able to run after the first hit, and a fast follow up shot really helps put em down quick. If I lose a few pieces of brass but I get my big buck I call that a good deal ! 1 to 2 moa off the bipod, no complaints
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04-27-2014, 12:29 AM
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I know I went down much of the same list you did before buying mine- pros and cons, cost, etc., then of course the "do I really NEED one." Here was my biggest reason- I hunt whitetail, in the woods. I have a model 1894 30-30, .444 marlin, and a 300wsm and have taken deer with each. Only two of those deer were resting shots, the rest standing or a quick kneel. Every time I shoulder a rifle in a hurry I go into a high shoulder pocket, because despite the hunting and recreational shooting with these guns, I have thousands of rounds in training on the AR platform. Last year I shouldered my .300 like an AR and shot uphill at my buck, ending up with a scope ring on my forehead. So, why not hunt with what I have trained my body to do? I have not had a second of regret- this is a great gun, and very light for a .308 platform. If you have time on an AR, I think you cannot go wrong with this to hunt with.
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04-27-2014, 06:49 PM
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I got a Caldwell brass catcher that solves the brass issue.
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Any thoughts out there on glass for the M&P10? Have the camo Hunter model- going to use primarily for deer & pigs. Have the Nikon P-223 on my AR15 and like, particularly the BDC feature. Would like a similar scope in camo. Help me here!?
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I am running a fixed 6x Weaver optic on my hunting 308AR. (BM, not M&P) It's good to 200yds. I prefer the 308 for hogs, because I hunt brush a lot, and do a lot of depredation. As such, I tend to do a lot of closer in shooting, and multiple target shooting. I like the fixed 6 because there is no messing with the scope; put it on the area, it glasses a wide view, and it's easy to get on target, and easy to get back on target after a shot.
Camo is only a couple cans of spray paint away......
OP; I am a lefty. I have never had issues with semis' throwing brass in my face. The only gun that has ever bothered me in that way was duck hunting with a Remington 1100. We shot a bunch, over 2 days. After literally 50 or 60 shots in a morning, I was chewing powder and my eyes were bugging me, even with shooting glasses on. No such issue from rifles.
As to weight of the rifle; yes it's a bit heavier. It's a great choice for a blind, it will steer a bit quicker than a bolt rifle, and the way you hold it promotes easier tracking of a quick moving animal. Second shots are much simpler and quicker.
Whether or not to deal with the M&P vs any other 308AR....... that's the question. I feel they are good, and the issues are pretty limited overall. For every rifle you will read about with a complaint here...... there are 15 that work just fine right from the get go. And S&W has been very good with service and warranty work on the rifles. Can not claim they are not taking care of their customers. All I have seen is they are fixing issues if they creep up, so that is a BIG plus.
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04-28-2014, 09:35 AM
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This is America damn it and we are Americans! We don't have to need a rifle- or anything else for that matter- to buy one. We buy a rifle because we want one. Sometimes we want something that suits our needs well and sometimes we want something only because it scratches an itch. Be honest with yourself and get the M&P-10 because you want it. If you have to justify "needing" it you don't really want it. In that case pass. You're welcome- always glad to help a fellow shooter gain some clarity
I am satisfied with the M&P-10. I stopped worryng about recoverng brass while hunting. Even with my bolt action rifles I rarely recovered my brass after the shot.
Unloading an AR in a tree stand will be more awkward. Removing the mag won't be a problem but clearing the chamber without dropping the round won't be as easy as a bolt action. Only you can decide if it's too much trouble or not.
308 ammo isn't difficult to get and if the price of the rifle leaves you without enough funds to shoot don't buy it. Can't help you with the southpaw thing. I'm right handed.
Bottom line- You don't need an M&P-10. If you want one and it suits your purposes get one. If not- don't. So far mine has been a good rifle and suits my purposes just fine
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04-28-2014, 08:55 PM
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I'm left handed. Not an issue to shoot the M&P 10 or any functional AR with a modern brass deflector.
Actually, the M&P 10 is pretty lefty friendly with the ambi releases and safety.
It's better than shooting a Glock with weak ejection left handed...
One thing about shooting AR's left handed: You get to taste the powder a little more....
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The price point on the S&W MP10 is amazing for the current times. Love the look of the gun, it'll handle the same as my MP15. Just love the looks of the platform.
I want one. I just don't know if I need one.
Why do I need a MP10?
What's everybody using theirs for?
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"This is America damn it and we are Americans! We don't have to need a rifle- or anything else for that matter- to buy one. We buy a rifle because we want one. Sometimes we want something that suits our needs well and sometimes we want something only because it scratches an itch"
Mist Wolf, I'm gonna need a note from you to the wife when I'm ready to scratch again
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Go Big or Go Home and play with your 22!
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Mist Wolf, I'm gonna need a note from you to the wife when I'm ready to scratch again
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I'm a lefty. Never been hit in the face by brass out of my mp10. Like others have said ,If you want it get it.
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05-06-2014, 07:46 PM
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I can't speak with a lot of authority because I've only had mine for a short time. I am left handed and the ambi controls are one of the things that drew me to the gun. I don't even notice ejected rounds. I have many pistols and AR 15's. I guess I'm just used to it. The 308 is no more costly to shoot than most any other center fire large bore rifle. Components are readily available and not terribly expensive.
I bought my rifle because I like the AR platform and wanted more punch than a .223 can deliver. I expect to use it at 300 yds or less for 3gun heavy metal. 1MOA is adequate for the task at those ranges. However, my real reason is the "just in case" factor. It is one of the best all around battle rifles I can imagine. 20 rounds of 308 as fast as you can pull the trigger is a lot of firepower in a light and portable package. I have other rifles that are better matched to many specific uses, but if its me against the world, this is my weapon of choice.
This is my rifle. There are many like it but this one is mine...... You know the rest.
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