Gun show.. what happened??

[crracer_712]

Went to a gun show today. Was looking to see if they had a Ruger Sr22 or 1911. No such luck, again.

Looked at a few ar15's and walked out with a M&P15, model 811002. I liked the 811008 better, but this one was on sale for 870.00, couldn't resist.

Love my M&P15-22, now have its big brother.

[JaPes]

Congrats! That's the one with the Troy folding rear sight?

[wicked marauder]

Congrats I'm headed to one tomorrow. Hopefully I can pickup a couple mags.

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[crracer_712]

Yes, Troy folding Rear.

Mostly new to the AR15, only had my 15-22 for about a year. It's addicting and expensive enough to deck out, so I kinda know what I'm in for.

I'm wanting the rail for the barrel like that of the 811008, I'm hoping this is something easily changed out? I mean I know my barrel cover comes off relatively easy, already stripped it down and give it a good cleaning.

What if I want to remove that front sight? Is that a big deal, would I have to replace it with something, such as that picatiny rail gas block on the sightless M&P 15? Just wondering in case I decide to put a scope of some sort on it. Those are really my only two concerns.

Well, maybe one more, what about extra mags? It came with the basic Magpul mag, they sell those for 11 bucks. Is that a good mag to use, or is there something else I should look for?

[JaPes]

ccracer,

This thread should help answer a bunch of your questions:

Assemble your own LOWER, UPPER, FREE FLOAT, TRIGGER, GAS BLOCK - Step by step instructions! - AR15.COM

The thread goes over installation of a free float rail/handguard. It also goes over the removal/installation of the A2 front sight & gas block.

I haven't swapped out an A2 front sight (yet), but there are a couple pieces of information I found while doing the research.

1. If you replace the A2 front sight with a railed gas-block, make sure that the railed gas block is the same height as your flat top rail.

2. The gas-block naturally gets hot. You can't mount a polymer folding sight (such as the MAGPUL MBUS) to it or it will melt.

From what I gather Magpul magazines are among the most reliable on the market. At my LGS, they also sell just the Magpul followers to retrofit into other AR magazines.

[rojodiablo]

Originally Posted by crracer_712

Yes, Troy folding Rear.

Mostly new to the AR15, only had my 15-22 for about a year. It's addicting and expensive enough to deck out, so I kinda know what I'm in for.

I'm wanting the rail for the barrel like that of the 811008, I'm hoping this is something easily changed out? I mean I know my barrel cover comes off relatively easy, already stripped it down and give it a good cleaning.

What if I want to remove that front sight? Is that a big deal, would I have to replace it with something, such as that picatiny rail gas block on the sightless M&P 15? Just wondering in case I decide to put a scope of some sort on it. Those are really my only two concerns.

Well, maybe one more, what about extra mags? It came with the basic Magpul mag, they sell those for 11 bucks. Is that a good mag to use, or is there something else I should look for?

I have a quad rail I can cut loose if you would like one, say $25.
I was pretty crushed today; I help a buddy who is a vendor at the shows today. I think he felt that with the new year everyone would implement new pricing after the serious discounts of late 2011. I showed up to a booth with S&W Sports and DPMS Oracles for $769.00 .............Holy ****e! I know times are tough, but that is EXACTLY why these rifles are priced where they have been. I talked to literally 20 guaranteed sales, had he been a bit more reasonable in his listed prices. You simply can't overcome a $100 deficit; which is where AmmoBros had their price set. He was lucky I was able to sell a double today for him. My son sold 1. I also closed a pistol, which had a reasonable price (I think we had the pistol in inventory for say 6 months, so the tag had not been changed.)
I had not one, but 3 guys tell me flat out were the asking price $50 less, they would have bought the rifle from me. I took time to explain how the rifle works, break them open for people to see how to service, and show them how adjustments to sights are done, etc. And 3 guys were very direct in their sentiment: "You helped me a LOT. I know which rifle I want to buy. And, were you say $50 over the other shop, we would have a deal. But $100 is just too much man, I am sorry."
Oh well; it's his loss, not mine. I would be there anyway, just to see the products and to pick up another 2K rounds for target shooting. But the lost sales were worth a lot of money to a small shop.

Anyhoo- it was 'Tig 'ole Bitties' Saturday, and God bless 'em, they brought out the big guns for me!!!!
MiWall had .223 Wolf for $198 for 1k rounds, and the out the door price for .308 was $180 for 500 of the Wolf ammo. Both rifles like the stuff, so I am happy with the day. Not to mention, found a couple good deals on optics from a few shops.

[rojodiablo]

Great post JaPes. You nailed it really well. And, Pmags are excellent. Truly excellent.

[crracer_712]

Thanks all on the pmag verification. I'll pick up a couple more today, maybe a softside case too.

I think I might go with the magpul front cover since they have rails for that cover, and I wasn't necessarily looking for the rail to be on top.

However, going to send a PM to you rojodiablo

[JaPes]

Originally Posted by rojodiablo

Great post JaPes. You nailed it really well. And, Pmags are excellent. Truly excellent.

Thank you.

I must always qualify that I'm new to the AR platform. The sum total of my experience is:

• Owning a S&W M&P 15-Sport
• Building an AR with a total build price similar to the 15-Sport. (Just got done with it.)

I poke around the internet trying to find credible information and separate out baseless opinion. I've borrowed a couple books. I've also viewed a few AGI DVD's on the AR.

Building a standard lower & choosing a complete upper were very educational. For my next one, I'll try my hand at assembling an upper from parts.

The more I learn, the more I find out that I have even more to learn.

Originally Posted by crracer_712

Thanks all on the pmag verification. I'll pick up a couple more today, maybe a softside case too.

I think I might go with the magpul front cover since they have rails for that cover, and I wasn't necessarily looking for the rail to be on top.

However, going to send a PM to you rojodiablo

I've done my AR furniture experimentation, and figured out my preferences. I can live with a stock AR set up except for the hand guards.



^ They just feel right in my hand. I don't need an AFG or VFG when I have a Magpul MOE hand guard installed.

As for a soft-side case, I have nothing but good things to say about ModGear / Condor soft side cases.


MOLLE-204 - ModGear OD Green Ultimate Carbine Case 36x12x4" Outside Pockets for Weapons Ammo Magazines and other Gear

Good padding & velcro straps to secure your rifle. Three pouches up front. A front zippered compartment that can hold two pistols. The handles & shoulder strap are real sturdy.

I have two of these: one OD green & one Coyote Tan.

[crracer_712]

I picked up the same Magpul cover and ended up with another BullDog AR case. Already had one of those cases for my 15-22, it's done what I needed, carries 4 magazines and has a zipper pocket for paperwork.

Shot the rifle over lunch Monday, me like. More shooting tonight.