Who uses it on there weapons?

I do. Really great stuff. Does everything CLP does but isn't toxic and smells good too.

Use a hair dryer or heat gun to "season" bbl.s and slides on semi auto pistols. Use it on your AR while the bbl. is still faily hot after shooting and forget about rust. Cleans very well and the paste type is like grease on slides and trigger contact points.

Love this stuff!

http://www.amazon.com/FROGLUBE-CLP-L.../dp/B003ZW0LXQ

Just started with it. Next week, we will run a course, and it will get a full workout.
FWIW, it makes my S&W 9504 feel retarded smooth....

I had my doubts about the stuff...just another lube. I bought some paste and some liquid and started putting it on everything I could think of (ARs, pistols, shotguns) and I started to love it right away. It stays put, and doesn't evaporate. It will make AR bolts and carriers feel cartoonishly smooth. I love the smell...I even love the taste (not recommended). It just plain works.

Now...having said that...this stuff is apparently designed to hold onto the carbon and nastiness that happens while shooting. Here is a pic of my M&P9 after 500 rounds of Wolf.





It looks absolutely terrible, right? Like maybe 2,000 rounds? BUT...it feels smooth as hell. It does NOT feel like it looks.

I love this green poo.

From the research I have done...froglube is pretty much the same as a product called "tracklube" that they use in the rollercoaster industry (lubing tracks, i guess). Someone had the idea to add the "IcyHot" smell and market it for guns. Glad they did.

I should also mention, that the M&P9 in the picture now has 1300 rounds through it without cleaning (just the initial cleaning before applying the FL) and it does not look any worse than at the 500 round mark. And it still feels smooth as heck.

It left my M&P 15 smooth, but I did start to have issues with FTE on an otherwise Stone Reliable rifle. These were the first ever issues with this, and it did happen with 2 types of ammo.
No issues with the 2 pistols I have used it on. But considering the cycle duty of the AR15 rifle, I am sticking to Slip on that one.
The verdict is still out, I am not convinced yet.

IF you wipe it down (**** comes right off) and keep the bolt wet as with CLP, it is excellent.

Absolutely no reliability issues with it for me, used as I would CLP or anything else. Best part is not filling the house with toxic fumes and the smell is fantastic instead of gagging you.

I have put a couple thousand rounds through with no failures but not consecutively without cleaning. Of course, I don't do that with any cleaner on any weapon I have.

I just ordered some a couple days ago waiting for it to come in and very excited to use it!

All the research I've done and everyone I've talked to loves it! Unfortunately its not available anywhere locally, not even the gun show (Which I went mostly to get lucky and find some)


I found this website that sells it a bit cheaper then most and no shipping charges.

FrogLube FL-KIT44

Animal you ever heard of TG?

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The timing of this topic is perfect, I nearly posted the same question last night. Because I was in a GS a couple of days ago, and they really pushed the stuff, claiming that every one of the several PDs they deal with have switched to the stuff after trying it.
Kind of expensive in the shop, just a small pocket sized bottle of a few ounces was $8. Apparently they push it at the Sig Academy too. But, if it is really that good, then its probably worth a try.

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I would like to chime in here. This product is probably not for everyone. The only reason I say that, is because I have been around a lot of forums in my years. LUBE THREADS ARE FRIGGIN' POINTLESS!

Everyone has that one lube that they love, and will never switch. Or (more likely), people don't really know what a good lube is "I use unsalted land-o-lakes on my AR bolt carrier and I shot 100 rounds last month with no problems" (hypothetical). Oh, boy, you shot 100 rounds.... There are people that LOOOOVE putting WD40 on their guns because dad did it. WD40 (sorry) is terrible.

Anyways, I am a big advocate of people trying lubes for themselves and just see how they like it. This goes DOUBLE for Froglube because it is "kinda different".

On another forum that I frequent, there are people using Froglube that KNOW a good lube when they use one. Either they are trainers, active duty, LEOs, etc... These are people that really USE their friggin' firearms. High round count Mo-fos.

So, buy a bottle and try the stuff. Use it as directed and test the heck out of it.

Tetra Gun lube? After I thought about it for a while, I THINK that's what you are talking about. I have heard of it, but never used it.

Animal, I agree with what you are saying that everyone will have their special stuff, and I agree that you should try it yourself..

I think that what the thread is more guided to is the fact that before I buy something I like to see reviews. Specially since Froglube is a little pricey if everyone in a forum that I share most opinions with dislike it, I would rather try something else.

But I would never go out and buy the Gallon tub of froglube based soley on opinions of forum members.

And lastly, I completely agree that WD40 should not be put on weapons!

I should have clarified...

The pointless threads I was referring to were the ones where everyone is ticked off at each other.

"Motor oil is better!"
"Synthetic motor oil is better!"
"Crisco is better!"


It gets old REAL quick.

Oh ok, Agreed!

It doesn't stack up. I tried it after a friend gave me his mostly unused tub. Compared it to eezox as far a corrosion prevention....FAIL
Compared to Slip2000 as a lubricant.....FAIL

I stopped after those two. Just another example of a product that someone claims is used by the "Seals" and is all the rage. I think it is ****.

It is very good. I am still running Frog lube on a couple pistols, but I have had zero issues with the AR's using a lighter oil. Slip and Tetra are both light, and do not attract sludge- even on a 600+ round count day.

I just started using Frog Lube to evaluate, I can honestly tell you that after treating several pistols that the clean up is significantly easier and no odors. As far a rust preventative I haven't been using it long enough to to have an opinion yet.

I went with frog lube on my new M&P40c after watching several "youtube" reviews. Among the best for rust prevention. My wife loves the fact that it is non-toxic and smells good. My results are superb.

Treated my new pistol twice (including the firing pin). Luckily we had a spare hair dryer to dedicate to the task. Went to the range today and fired 200 rounds. No problems at all.

Marcus

Recent covert here. Been using it on a Colt 6940 which was super easy to clean after blasting through several hundred rounds of steel cases. Just Frog Lubed some 15-22 which should love it. Will be moving on to pistols and the rest of them here as the wife absolutely loves the smell, especially compared to Hoppes #9...

I have been following threads on Frog Lube elsewhere and while it is not a miracle corrosion preventative, nothing did as well as I would have expected in extreme torture testing.

Well, I lube all my frogs with it.

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I've been using it for about a month now and love it... I've coated all of my M&P's with it.

I am very happy for you all that like the Frog Lube. I cannot buy it locally and havent seen it at any of the LGS's I do frequent on the other end of the state. I am using my Mobil 1 5w30 because of its ease of availability. But when I do run across it I will buy some to try.

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Grover Oathkeeper

After seeing over 70,000 rounds a month fired among 30 AR platforms, for three months using FrogLube we stayed with our standard but still have some FrogLube around if some of the guys want to use it (until our supply is exhausted). FrogLube is kinda OK, in a way, but its not the "best thing since popcorn" thing its hyped to be. The FrogLube was sort of forced on us, they ordered cases of the stuff and we didn't even ask for it, just showed up one day. It was the result of a typo, the PO request was for weapon lubricants but the brand and type was acidentially left out on the request. So... one of the bean counters decided that since he was such an expert and knew everything with his vast experience in engaging those hostile paper targets that threatened paper cuts at every turn that he would give us a little help and just fill in the blanks. He decided that FrogLube was the best thing since popcorn since he used it himself, so thats what he ordered and one day this truck pulls up and drops off 30 cases of the stuff. There goes part of our annual budget wasted.

The truth about weapon lubricants, broadly, is to lubricate with what ever satisfies your needs and requirements, keeps the weapon in continuous service and continually functioning properly in any use or demand upon the weapon, is dependable, doesn't harm you when you apply it, and does not cause harm or malfunction to the weapon.

Some of our guys use Mobil 1 Synthetic 0W-20 (which is the correct grade to use on an AR platform), some use Weapon Shield, some use a combination of both. Some of them stick to the standard military CLP types, some use some of the other "just gotta have" lubricants hyped, some even use FrogLube. Our standard is Mobil 1 and Weapon Shield, but we have some others available too but they are not our standard. However, when those guys are on the range firing those thousands of rounds each month, when lubrication is needed I see all of them eventually reach for the Mobil 1 and/or Weapon Shield to keep the weapon in service even though all their other lubricants are at hand even FrogLube. Personally, I use the Mobil 1 and/or Weapon Shield on all my weapons for lubrication. The last failure to eject or jam i've had on my S&W 15OR was several months ago and that was due to a bad magazine and I shoot several thousand rounds every two weeks rain or shine, I can't even remember the last time I had any jams or malfunctions on my sig's or glocks.

Foxtrot...Thank you I didnt know which grade was correct, I use the mobil one in my truck and so I have it one hand in the 5w30. Can I ask where you got the information on the 0w20 weight?

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Grover Oathkeeper

37 years of experience with the AR platform, training, education, using just about everything there is for lubrication on the AR platform, the old hands I encountered during and before retiring from the military and going to law enforcement, having my weapon jam just when I needed it most under fire, being part of testing programs on this platform and doing our best to destroy the weapon, and literally over 3,000 hours a year on and off the range with various AR type platforms especially the M-4.

I wonder if I could just add some wintergreen smell to my Mobil 1 0W20 and carry on without the FrogLube?

Sir I was not trying to flame or antagonize you. I was wondering because I worked on German Cars for years and they were the first to start using Zero weight motor oils in the early 2000's. Prior to 2004 you had to get specific engine oils from the vehicle manufacturers in order to get 0 weight oil. Audi/Volkswagen and BMW were the first to use it in their high output engines. Some of the biggest motor oil companies (i.e. Castrol) didn't produce a zero weight until 2008. I understand and respect your experience and knowledge about the AR platform. It far surpasses mine, I just wondered if there was documentation for when they started recommending zero weight oil. Please I was not trying to offend you but we get so much hearsay information. I do know people that are using it in their AR's and I was just wondering if next time I buy motor oil if I should pick up a quart of it. Thank you.

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Grover Oathkeeper

Oh, I wasn't offended or anything, didn't mean for it to sound that way.

Its not something thats in writing as an official guideline or endorsement, although there was at one time, a long time ago, a field expedient method that stated motor oil could be used in an emergency especially on heavy caliber machine guns. Its just one of those things you learn to deal with and how to deal with it especially when you know your life may depend on the weapon. You listen to the old guys who have been through it, you learn from the instructors in courses in those side-bar conversations, you visit the armorers who have to work on the things and talk to them, you see what others are doing, you find the best ways to do something yourself with what really works when you really need it and what doesn't or is no different than what you are already doing when it comes down to it, etc... Its one of those things you just learn along the way and add to that list in the back of your mind that is titled DO's and DON'T's, what works and what doesn't work, its a collective knowledge thing.

A person can go nuts trying to figure out what really works and has a known reliability factor that can be depended on by reading things on the internet. Mobil 1 synthetic first came out in 1974 in a 5W. At first, years ago, with the M-16 in Vietnam it was simply get the lightest weight motor oil you could. Heck, I remember seeing guys from units go to the motor pool to get oil change disposal oil, they would filter out all the sludge and gunk, thin it out a little more, and reclaim enough to use for weapons and it just worked so these troops carried those lessons home with them because they knew it worked and tried to apply it stateside but the military was starting to get eaten up by environmental groups and switched away from allowing that because all oil had to be reclaimed and disposed of in an ecological and environmentally friendly manner by authorized disposal methods only. When 0W-20 became available, it was perfect because it had the right capabilities of anti-wear, anti-friction, and heat reduction in a light oil and it just worked and kept working in harsh conditions when the military supplied, and other, lubricants failed.

You simply use the Mobil 1 like you would a normal weapons lubricant.

I like the idea of a multi viscosity oil, but a zero weight oil doesnt stay zero in an engine for very long. it gains viscosity pretty quickly due to an engine heating up, shear and stuff like that. I really like the Mobil 1 5w30 I have been using. I have never seen rifles (not just AR's) any easier to clean than after using the synthetic motor oils. It really seams that somehow it helps prevent the carbon based soot from cakeing up like on the bolt and in the bcg. When I was in the Corps and I have a nephew who is an armorer at Camp Pendleton we used LSA a mil-spec lubricant. Looks like a teflon based lube, or maybe has teflon type material in suspension. From what I have been told they are using an improved version of LSA still. And for military use it has to be a milspec lube. I cannot speak for the army, I have a brother who is a LEO in Lawrence, Kansas and he says that they supply them with an approved Military Lube that comes in a Green Bucket with yellow lettering. Sounds like military to me. I do not know for sure but I like my Mobil 1 and I can get it locally.

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Grover Oathkeeper

yeah, Mobil 1 makes it really easy to clean.

You don't need to worry about the viscosity change for weapon use.

I remember using LSA in the military, still got a OD green one gallon can of it in the garage and we have some at work. And, CLP well that stuff is just pitiful and probably causes more jams than any other lubricant because its nothing but a dirt and grim magnet and is the worse thing you can put on a weapon especially in dirt or sand environments like the desert. The military was mainly concerned about maintaining weapons in light use and storage with their lube products and did not supply a lubricant that stands up to the punishment of continual combat. It's a void that a lot of companies are trying to fill, thats why you see things about them sending lubricant care packages to the troops and claiming it on their web sites and in public releases and showing testimonials from troops. They want so bad to have their products declaired battle tested and worthy, and the military has stayed out of that arena for a while but I think they approved Militec and are starting to supply it.