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Old 04-02-2012, 09:40 PM
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Question 50 grain bullet question????

Why can 22-250's shoot 50 grain bullets and I havent heard of .223's shooting 50's, I have loaded 125's for my 8x57's for varmint hunting so how come I dont hear of AR's loading lighter for plinking or varmint hunting? I regularly shoot 185 grain bullets in my 8mm, and we regularly shoot 55 grain bullets in the AR's. Now I do understand I am not shooting 125 grain bullet 500 yards but I am shooting them 200 to 300, just was reading bullet reviews figuring out what I want to buy and the question stuck in my forehead.

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By now I'm sure you no there's a happy medium to bullet weight vs. wind drift and bullet drop. A 50 grain 223 @ 3300ish fps may have more drift at shorter yards, vs. 55 and up. Put the 50 gr. behind the 22-250 @ 4000 fps and the trajectory changes
Maybe download a ballistics calculator and start plugging in the properties to see what weight works best overall. I use one for my 308.
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By now I'm sure you no there's a happy medium to bullet weight vs. wind drift and bullet drop. A 50 grain 223 @ 3300ish fps may have more drift at shorter yards, vs. 55 and up. Put the 50 gr. behind the 22-250 @ 4000 fps and the trajectory changes
Maybe download a ballistics calculator and start plugging in the properties to see what weight works best overall. I use one for my 308.
thanks I was just noticing all the weights available and started wondering, it seems that because the military uses or used it we use it, but I am not trying to penetrate body armor or shoot large animals. I researched a bit and found that with the 1-8 twist that the bullet will spin so fast that It is likely to destroy itself pretty quickly after coming out of the barrel. But yeah I will look at a ballistics calculator and play, being on bed-rest I have time..LOL
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The lower weight may tend to tumble at shorter distances as well.
The 55 gr. NATO load and vmax bullet out to 300 yds I would suspect to be trouble free and plenty accurate, especially behind a mildot scope.
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Sarge they really seem to be, thinking about loading a heavier bullet for my handloads, to extend the range. Thats why I have been looking at bullets and reading a lot of reviews.
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Hot and light are current hype.
22-250, 25-06 are becoming very popular deer hunting rounds.

Theres a new 6mm x ? Gaining popularity in the bolt gun crowd too.
I get emails daily for these types of calibers.
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I have shot a few thousand rounds of 42 and 45 grain frangible bullets through a M&P 15T. These are SinterFire bullets and they work very well out to 100 yards.

Never did chrono any. May just do that this week.
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I load 50 gr Vmax's and Ballistic tips for my 223 and 223 AI, both however are bolt guns with a 1:14 twist. A 50 gr bullet should give adequate accuracy in a 1:9 twist AR but I prefer 55-62 gr bullets for a 1:9, 69-75 gr bullets for a 1:7. The only way to know for sure is to load some up and try them in your gun.
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I just spent an hour with my Gunsmith...he is my go to guy for gun info...a long time family friend went to High School with my Mom. He told me "your gun is shooting 55gr bullets real well right and I said yes sir, He said dont monkey around with it, load 55 gr bullets, and then learn exactly where they shoot, you dont need to be remembering Ok I have this grain bullet I need to adjust this scope this way, All you need to know is that your bullet is going to hit here so hold here or hold over this far, especially with mildots" Made perfect sense to me, so I am going to load quality 55 grain bullets, I would like to make them ballistic tips and just learn where they shoot to where I can accurately shoot them within the reasonable distance for my rifle. Makes sense to me anyway!
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That's why I like a quality mil dot.
U can have a small cheeter tape on the stock stating every dots range based on you handload and hours and hours behind the trigger. I'm not one to try and remember everything, I use cheeter tape and a calculator.
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