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My JP Spring and AR-Restor buffer is ordered...
My Carbon 15 AR Liked it sooo much... I figured... whats $112
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We are an effective group of enablers here, aren't we?
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fwiw, I installed the JP Captured Recoil Buffer a couple weeks ago. The spring tension was a little more than the "blue" sprinco and H2 buffer I had before. However I had no issues with FTF or FTE. It did seem like there was a lot less "sproing" type noise and I had to move the barrel less when reacquiring the next shot. Overall I feel it tightened things up a little.
I was shooting PMC 5.56 Xtac and Independance 5.56. I'm going to try Brown Bear .223 this weekend.
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If no one else indicates they want to try out the hydro buffer by Sunday, I'll ask Stavman to send it back to me. I know we have two people who still want to try it, but circumstances are keeping them from it. I can send it out to you guys when you're ready.
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Okay what does the M&P 15's stock buffer weigh anyways? I don't have a scale.
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If no one else indicates they want to try out the hydro buffer by Sunday, I'll ask Stavman to send it back to me. I know we have two people who still want to try it, but circumstances are keeping them from it. I can send it out to you guys when you're ready.
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I only wish I had range time right now. :/
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Okay what does the M&P 15's stock buffer weigh anyways? I don't have a scale.
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It's "suppose" to be around 2.9-3 oz.
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JP Captured Recoil Buffer.
I installed this in my 20" "Franklin build" after I tried it In my Sport and 15 T. All shot well with zero issues (so far),wear,tare and the test of time will tell. It also was used on another Sport,two RR carbines,couple BM's and another guy that loves his "Kool-Aid". It had a work out today,brand new out of the tube.
It is quieter with a smoother operation,lesser felt recoil is so-so (it has about the same weight buffer & recoil spring as a stock buffer & spring).
Recovery from shot to shot is a bit faster (?)...maybe a little bit.
Great up-grade but nothing to write home about. I am impressed by this Silent Capture Recoil Spring. This part should have been invented years ago and is very well made. There is no "spoon on a cheese grater noise". It didn't make it totally silent,but way better than it was.
The Rifle "feels" smoother in action. No problems on rapid fire. And the mag catch worked 100%.
Very clear and precise instructions.
While suggested, you do not have to remove the weapon's original buffer retainer. A small flatblade screwdriver helps installation and removing it if you keep the buffer retainer. It can be a bit tricky getting it in & out and you have to "dodge" the hammer a titch. I opted and left the retainer in so the buffer wouldn't just free fall out of the tube (the hammer would keep it from completely falling out). It keeps everything where it "should be" with no un-intended oops.. It does fit perfect in the buffer tube. No slop.
It looks re-build-able,but there aren't any parts that I could find. It would also be nice if they had a spring kit to interchange heavier/lighter springs and change the buffer weight up or down.
It's a pricey,VERY well made,nice little toy. If it just holds up and works like it should,I'll be more than happy.
I bought it because I could. It wasn't a need/have to have item. My (or the other's),shooting didn't get any better or any worse. It is a very nice buffer muffler.
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JP Captured Recoil Buffer.
I installed this in my 20" "Franklin build" after I tried it In my Sport and 15 T. All shot well with zero issues (so far),wear,tare and the test of time will tell. It also was used on another Sport,two RR carbines,couple BM's and another guy that loves his "Kool-Aid". It had a work out today,brand new out of the tube.
It is quieter with a smoother operation,lesser felt recoil is so-so (it has about the same weight buffer & recoil spring as a stock buffer & spring).
Recovery from shot to shot is a bit faster (?)...maybe a little bit.
Great up-grade but nothing to write home about. I am impressed by this Silent Capture Recoil Spring. This part should have been invented years ago and is very well made. There is no "spoon on a cheese grater noise". It didn't make it totally silent,but way better than it was.
The Rifle "feels" smoother in action. No problems on rapid fire. And the mag catch worked 100%.
Very clear and precise instructions.
While suggested, you do not have to remove the weapon's original buffer retainer. A small flatblade screwdriver helps installation and removing it if you keep the buffer retainer. It can be a bit tricky getting it in & out and you have to "dodge" the hammer a titch. I opted and left the retainer in so the buffer wouldn't just free fall out of the tube (the hammer would keep it from completely falling out). It keeps everything where it "should be" with no un-intended oops.. It does fit perfect in the buffer tube. No slop.
It looks re-build-able,but there aren't any parts that I could find. It would also be nice if they had a spring kit to interchange heavier/lighter springs and change the buffer weight up or down.
It's a pricey,VERY well made,nice little toy. If it just holds up and works like it should,I'll be more than happy.
I bought it because I could. It wasn't a need/have to have item. My (or the other's),shooting didn't get any better or any worse. It is a very nice buffer muffler.
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Nice! I am adding that to my wish list.
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What are the general impressions of the Spikes ST-T2 Buffers ?
I have a Larue AR with a plain H Buffer in it.
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What are the general impressions of the Spikes ST-T2 Buffers ?
I have a Larue AR with a plain H Buffer in it.
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ST-T2 is filled with high-density tungsten powder for extra weight 4.1 oz.
I don't have the Spikes (opted over name for a lower price same bang for the $$$). Have a different brand of the same weight and it works good if you are NOT shooting too light of a load. Anything heavier is more for semi-auto and full auto.
Take note. It's NOT the same as these two other buffers. There is no hydraulic buffer like the Enidine Restor . It's also not captured like the JB buffer (which is also not hydraulic like the Endine Restor).
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My Hydro Buffer shipped, and the New JP Spring... may Land Monday
I will then be doing some extensive Testing and report back here..
Like I mentioned.. I was really Surprised how much I noticed the difference in the Carbon 15 AR....
I am also hoping the JP Tuned Spring will make a Noticeable impact as well...
Excited about some Fun test and Tune on Monday....
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Stav, the JP spring should definitely make a difference in the sound that the buffer makes. It eliminates the spring-loaded curtain rod raspiness and changes it to a more pneumatic sound.
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My Hydro Buffer shipped, and the New JP Spring... may Land Monday
I will then be doing some extensive Testing and report back here..
Like I mentioned.. I was really Surprised how much I noticed the difference in the Carbon 15 AR....
I am also hoping the JP Tuned Spring will make a Noticeable impact as well...
Excited about some Fun test and Tune on Monday....
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I'm still planning on getting the Endine Hrdro Buffer. From what I read,it should help some what and it's one of those "Toy" things to see what its got.
Next,I plan on playing with an adjustable gas block. The buffers would be nice to have on hand for switching around and back and forth.
Once things settle down. I want to build a 24" heavy upper.
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This might help some. I have seen different weight attached to different brands for "H" versions... "Normally" an H2 is plenty.
Intended for use with AR15 carbines equipped with collapsible buttstocks
3 oz Version is the standard AR15 OEM buffer
3.8 oz Version is equal to the "H" buffer
4.5 oz Version is equal to the "H2" buffer
5.4 oz Version is equal to the "H3" buffer
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This might help some. I have seen different weight attached to different brands for "H" versions... "Normally" an H2 is plenty.
Intended for use with AR15 carbines equipped with collapsible buttstocks
3 oz Version is the standard AR15 OEM buffer
3.8 oz Version is equal to the "H" buffer
4.5 oz Version is equal to the "H2" buffer
5.4 oz Version is equal to the "H3" buffer
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Thanks that helps a lot! Someone should sticky this info.
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Well Buffer is on its Return trip Home to jaPes this week.
I was able to Take it out again yesterday
about 80 more rds in it..
I really Like the way it Helps my Carbon 15... Mine should be here today with the JP spring..
Cant wait to test em both out together and separately..
Buffer is going on the C15 for sure... we shall see if it will be matched up with the Spring or Not
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New toys musta came after i got Home From Shooting...
Gunna Hit Cabela's and get a New Scope mount and Hand Grip... then do some testing with my new STUFFS
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Trying to decide between AR-Restor + JP Tuned spring and the JP Captured Recoil spring.
New AR-15 owner, trying to go all out, any thoughts? Price for both options seems to be about the same and both are in-stock and available!
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Trying to decide between AR-Restor + JP Tuned spring and the JP Captured Recoil spring.
New AR-15 owner, trying to go all out, any thoughts? Price for both options seems to be about the same and both are in-stock and available!
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I have not tried the JP captured.... But I do know the AR-Restor does work...
Figured i'd try the JP Spring also....
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Trying to decide between AR-Restor + JP Tuned spring and the JP Captured Recoil spring.
New AR-15 owner, trying to go all out, any thoughts? Price for both options seems to be about the same and both are in-stock and available!
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Slide back up the page to #258 and that'll give you a heads up about the captured buffer.
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Just thought I'd pass this on. Brownells and Midway show the collapsible srock Endine as discontinued. Prices have jumped to $100 for existing in stock items. Even more on other sites.
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Trying to decide between AR-Restor + JP Tuned spring and the JP Captured Recoil spring.
New AR-15 owner, trying to go all out, any thoughts? Price for both options seems to be about the same and both are in-stock and available!
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I haven't used the AR-Restor but have used the JP Captured Recoil Buffer. It has almost no recoil and works wonderfully. No FTE/FTF and was able to do multiple mag dumps without any malfunctions.
here's a video of me testing out the JP CRB and Seekin's brake I had just installed. I figured what better way then a mag dump to test reliability.
also fwiw in response to the post above that said they couldn't find replacement springs.. just checked and JP has replacement springs available for fine tuning the captured recoil buffer.
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If you look at Nokick.com they have the hydraulics in stock and they dont mention anything about the endine being discontinued...I wonder if they have become the sole distributor!!!
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Checked and yes the have them. They're $60 more than when I bought mine 4 months ago.
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