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Went by the LGS today and saw some Advanced Armament stuff in stock. They had complete uppers in 9", 12.5", and 16". They also had a complete Advanced Armament rifle in 16". The uppers were priced at $1080 and the complete rifle was $1549.
On the rifle, the 1:7 twist barrel is nitrided and the muzzle is threaded 5/8-24 and includes an AAC 51-tooth BLACKOUT
flash suppressor. It has a Knight’s Armament free-floating URX III rail with integrated front sight. The BCG is nickel boron coated. It also has a Geissele Match trigger and a Magpul stock and pistol grip. I think that is the high points.
How are these prices and how is the quality of Advanced Armament?
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AAC is the company who started the .300 BLK. They are the Colt of the .300 BLK world, lol.
$1549 for a complete rifle. It would have came home with me and i would have never thought twice about it.
Those uppers are priced reasonable. They average around and under the $1200 mark, just depending on what all u get on it.
Ever since i built my .300 BLK, i cant seem to talk myself into pulling the trigger on my 5.56 anymore. I've gotten so use to the .300 and how well it works. The 5.56 IMO, will be used for plinking and thats about as far as it will ever go.
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I agree blackout is so much fun, I have a lot of 5.56 hand loaded and I think I will only shoot my sport if I run out of ammo for my blackout. I think the blackout is what the AR's were meant to be
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Thanks for the info. I had forgotten that you had to do the "extra paperwork and $$$" to buy the 9" or 12.5" uppers. Having the 9" would have been awesome, but the extra hassles are not right now. That is when I was told of the complete rifle.
I guess I'm out of the loop somewhat because I don't know anything about Advanced Armament.
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Thanks for the info. I had forgotten that you had to do the "extra paperwork and $$$" to buy the 9" or 12.5" uppers. Having the 9" would have been awesome, but the extra hassles are not right now. That is when I was told of the complete rifle.
I guess I'm out of the loop somewhat because I don't know anything about Advanced Armament.
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See if they have 16" uppers in a complete rifle, or just a 16" complete upper (u can slap it on your 5.56). A 16" will work just fine for the normal user. Just make sure u run supersonic ammo up to about 200gr and you should be fine.
If you run a SBR (less than 16"). The best way to run it is suppressed. .300 BLK was designed around being suppressed and it is just ninja quiet when its suppressed. A suppressed 9mm round is loader than a suppressed .300 BLK round. Plus the SBR looks super sexy with a CAN on it. Believe it or not, muzzle velocity in a 9" SBR .300 is greater then that of a standard M4 16" and at 400yards the .300 has 5% more energy even from the 9" barrel.
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See if they have 16" uppers in a complete rifle, or just a 16" complete upper (u can slap it on your 5.56). A 16" will work just fine for the normal user. Just make sure u run supersonic ammo up to about 200gr and you should be fine.
If you run a SBR (less than 16"). The best way to run it is suppressed. .300 BLK was designed around being suppressed and it is just ninja quiet when its suppressed. A suppressed 9mm round is loader than a suppressed .300 BLK round. Plus the SBR looks super sexy with a CAN on it. Believe it or not, muzzle velocity in a 9" SBR .300 is greater then that of a standard M4 16" and at 400yards the .300 has 5% more energy even from the 9" barrel.
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They had just sold their 16" upper before I got there. The complete rifle they have has the 16" barrel. As far as a SBR, I would love to have one, but the $$$ is too much for now. They do look awesome.
Does anybody here actually have an Advanced Armament upper or complete rifle? If you do, what rear sight do you use with the integrated front sight? The integrated front sight looks funky to my eyes.
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Can you find ammo for it?
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They had just sold their 16" upper before I got there. The complete rifle they have has the 16" barrel. As far as a SBR, I would love to have one, but the $$$ is too much for now. They do look awesome.
Does anybody here actually have an Advanced Armament upper or complete rifle? If you do, what rear sight do you use with the integrated front sight? The integrated front sight looks funky to my eyes.
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U can use an Mbus or in most cases use an optic. The optic will clear the front sight without an issue. Put urself some side mount open sights on it, in case u ever need the open sights for close quarters.
I personally use mine for hunting hogs/coyotes and deer at my camp. So in most cases im shooting them 100 yards or so out.
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I roll my own lol
Its much cheaper cutting 5.56 cases down and reforming them then factory ammo at this time but once the popularity increases I expect the ammo prices to drop.
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A few cents over $1 a round. Most people pay that much for 5.56 now days, lol
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Thats not to bad its pre-crazy prices. Good find
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There are about a dozen boxes of this ammo in a north Georgia hardware store. Remington 200 grain @ $22.99 each. P.M. me if you want the location.
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You know that S&W makes a .300blk/ Whisper upper that you can get for about $800-850. It has a 1/7.5 twist rate and is a 5R rifled barrel. The complete upper is just about a clone of the 15T. Only the barrel is different. Just something to think about.
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See if they have 16" uppers in a complete rifle, or just a 16" complete upper (u can slap it on your 5.56). A 16" will work just fine for the normal user. Just make sure u run supersonic ammo up to about 200gr and you should be fine.
If you run a SBR (less than 16"). The best way to run it is suppressed. .300 BLK was designed around being suppressed and it is just ninja quiet when its suppressed. A suppressed 9mm round is loader than a suppressed .300 BLK round. Plus the SBR looks super sexy with a CAN on it. Believe it or not, muzzle velocity in a 9" SBR .300 is greater then that of a standard M4 16" and at 400yards the .300 has 5% more energy even from the 9" barrel.
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I will be buying a 300 upper when things calm down, I will use the DPMS with Liberty can and sub sonic's till I get it. Be Safe,
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Yes sir, thanks for the correction.
It made a little sense, i guess
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Ever since i built my .300 BLK, i cant seem to talk myself into pulling the trigger on my 5.56 anymore. I've gotten so use to the .300 and how well it works. The 5.56 IMO, will be used for plinking and thats about as far as it will ever go.
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At this time, it is pretty hard to come by (so is .22LR, lol). But if/when it all settles down and gets back to somewhat normal, the .300 BLK is fairly easy to find. My local Cabellas and Bass Pro carry it and its almost always on the shelf. A few of the LGS carry it as well, but the prices are a little higher.
The cheaper way to catch it is online. If you have a descent amount of rounds to get you by while ur waiting your next shipment........Of course u could always reload. .223 brass can be found all over the place, of course when things are back to normal. So in that case u have plenty of brass to reload for the .300 BLK in the future. Of course u have to neck down the .223 cases to work for the .300 (but the point is the brass is pretty limitless). It's a win/win situation no matter how you look at it, IMO.
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IMO 300 Blk is the future of the AR platform. It's already catching on hard even in these times where it's hard to find ammo. People just want a larger round in their AR and the fact that you only have to change the barrel makes 300 Blk extremely desirable.
I've learned a lot here 300BlkTalk ? Index page great site with some very helpful people. Also, The Book of the AR just put out a magazine completely dedicated to the 300 Blackout and has reviews on just about every company making uppers, barrels and rifles, check that out if you can find it. They did do a review of the AAC uppers/rifles.
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Most of all the companies that make uppers are all on backorder also. So if u find a .300 BLK upper on a shelf and u dont already have one. It may be a wise choice to scoop it up, that is if u ever plan on stepping up a bit. It's better than waiting on the backorders to get filled. And right now, i'm sure many people know how it feels to still be waiting on backorders (cough cough Magpul).
IMO, its a much better round than i anticipated. After spending some time with it and shooting it at different distance. You learn what u need to or need not to do when shooting it at closer and greater distances. Anything under 150 yards, its a pretty nasty weapon. The farther out u go the more changes u need to make for the drop in the bullet. This is where your practice comes in.
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So if u find a .300 BLK upper on a shelf and u dont already have one. It may be a wise choice to scoop it up, that is if u ever plan on stepping up a bit. It's better than waiting on the backorders to get filled. And right now, i'm sure many people know how it feels to still be waiting on backorders (cough cough Magpul).
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I just slapped mine on my limited edition PSA NOBO12 lower. It's been eating the .300 BLK rounds like a fat kid does a box of twinkies.
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I just slapped mine on my limited edition PSA NOBO12 lower. It's been eating the .300 BLK rounds like a fat kid does a box of twinkies.
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I've learned a lot here 300BlkTalk ? Index page great site with some very helpful people. Also, The Book of the AR just put out a magazine completely dedicated to the 300 Blackout and has reviews on just about every company making uppers, barrels and rifles, check that out if you can find it. They did do a review of the AAC uppers/rifles.
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IMO 300 Blk is the future of the AR platform. It's already catching on hard even in these times where it's hard to find ammo. People just want a larger round in their AR and the fact that you only have to change the barrel makes 300 Blk extremely desirable.
I've learned a lot here 300BlkTalk ? Index page great site with some very helpful people. Also, The Book of the AR just put out a magazine completely dedicated to the 300 Blackout and has reviews on just about every company making uppers, barrels and rifles, check that out if you can find it. They did do a review of the AAC uppers/rifles.
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Be careful tho if you have S & W 300 and blaspheme and say whisper in the forum you will have some real interesting comments about the whisper there. I tried to tell them that ssk and S &W are the only two companies authorized to make whisper chambers and the others arent real whispers. And wham there is a big argument
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Whisper, Blackout, I don't care too much what you call the thing as long as I can call it mine. It's just a name, much like GMC and Chevy. Sorry GMC, it was staring me in the face. I have a Tahoe sitting outside.
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Book of the AR is a quarterly magazine. Just do a search for Book of the AR 300 blackout and you should find it. I'm not sure if it would still be on a news stand or not.
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Very good looking rifle, I'd love to have the AAC Stamps on mine. And yeah, like he said, you won't be needing 5.56 anymore Gratz!
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I don't know, I'm still shooting my 5.56 upper just as much as the 300. With the lack of .22lr to be found anywhere, the 5.56 upper has become my plinker and the 300 has slide into the spot between the 5.56 and the .270win bolt gun I have
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This is how you insult the .223 owners
Even the boxes agree with me.
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That's good. I have looked at some youtube vids about the V-Max. Those things can do some serious damage to a watermelon.
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You should what one does up close in CQB. It goes through barriers like a hot knife going through butter. It would be kind of hard to hide from one, thats for sure.
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.300 Blackout
Just bought the .300 blackout. Is it a good gun? Went to the range to shoot it and used Federal AAC blackout ammo and first I shot the first round it got stuck in barrel. Is this normal? Is the stock barrel a good one?
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I would like to give the V-max's a try. But finding them around here is not going very well. I'm having a devil of a time finding any thing in 300blk around here. The only factory ammo I have been able to get is UMC 115gr.
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Here is my ex rifle, with 16" Wilson Combat barrel:
Great gun, but I really wanted to go bolt action for load development, so I traded it. Probably not my wisest move.
I reload, but got my 'starter' cases by buying a case of 208gr 300 BLK from
https://store.getontargetammo.com/p/...blk-208gr-amax
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Just bought the .300 blackout. Is it a good gun? Went to the range to shoot it and used Federal AAC blackout ammo and first I shot the first round it got stuck in barrel. Is this normal? Is the stock barrel a good one?
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Uh, did you bother to clean out the barrel first, before you took it out on the range? (Rather important.) For that matter is it actually a .300 barrel? It should be stamped somewhere on it.
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03-25-2013, 05:24 PM
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Thats not normal, it could have been a bad round or the barrel could need cleaned more thoroughly.
I fired hand loads the first time in mine and had no problems at all and it just ate the 147 grain M80's. I fired almost 300 rounds the first day and had 0 problems.
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Yes the very first round and the bullet got stuck in the barrel.
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03-25-2013, 05:40 PM
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Yes it those say .300 on barrel. And no I didn't clean it. I never cleaned on any of my other guns and never had problem.
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Yes it those say .300 on barrel. And no I didn't clean it. I never cleaned on any of my other guns and never had problem.
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I always clean every weapon before even chambering the very first round. And I also clean all of my weapons after each range visit. Call me paranoid i guess
What upper do you have? Are you sure its chambered for .300 Blackout and not .300 Whisper? Also what ammo where you shooting with it when it jammed?
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I always clean every weapon before even chambering the very first round. And I also clean all of my weapons after each range visit. Call me paranoid i guess
What upper do you have? Are you sure its chambered for .300 Blackout and not .300 Whisper? Also what ammo where you shooting with it when it jammed?
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I clean mine to .
Whisper is actually a longer case length 1.40 vs blackouts 1.368 but a good point .
It kinda sounds like a bad round with the ammo manufactures pushing to get rounds out the QC may have slipped, it sounds like there was almost no powder in the case and the primer should have enough oomph to lodge a projectile half way up a barrel.Did it sound kinda flat when you shot it? did it eject the case? low or no recoil?
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