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Old 07-18-2013, 11:15 AM
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The cheapest I can find quality ammunition (5.56) is @ .50 per rd.

Most expensive I see is @ $1.25-$1.50 per rd.

So where do you guys draw the line on costs??

And after the next gun tragedy, you think it will go up again??

If I gotta pay $1.25-$1.50 per round, I'm going to be shooting my 15/22 lots more and even .22LR is getting outrageous at some places.
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Too much ammo

Too big of a gun safe.

I've never heard of either one. =-)
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:29 AM
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The cheapest 223 i've found is 50cents, too. I've been shooting only 22 ammo lately. Bought a 22 revolver, 15-22, ar-15 conversion bolt to 22, all recently so it's alot of fun even though it's just a 22 round.

I've been in stores that only have 1000rd 556 in a case for sale and they wanted $1100! Crazy!
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TulAmmo Ammo 223 Remington 55 Grain Full Metal Jacket (Bi-Metal) Steel

30 cents per round.

Or, you could reload, and save even more...
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:40 AM
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TulAmmo Ammo 223 Remington 55 Grain Full Metal Jacket (Bi-Metal) Steel

30 cents per round.

Or, you could reload, and save even more...
Yeah, until you add in shipping, then goes to 45 cents for me with the 5 box limit. Still, not too bad, about on par with other sources for this ammo.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:49 AM
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I suppose I am a bit spoiled with MidwayUSA, since their customer pickup door is 8 minutes from my driveway.
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In most cases, I never even come close to paying 50/round of 5.56 or .223. Well, maybe here and there, but certainly not on a regular basis. Even during the height of the ammo crisis. To be sure, it's been a challenge to find deals, even in bulk, but they're out there.

Heck, I have 1000 rounds of Brown Bear .223 on order for .21/round and 1000 rounds of Xtac 5.56 ammo for 35/round. Both from the Sportsman's Guide.

It's out there folks, just be patient and order it when you find it even if you have to wait months to get it. It's worth the wait to get it cheap.
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Provided we don't have another event, ammo will come back down to within 20% of where it was. I've bought a few deals I've run across, but I'm waiting on the supply to catch up for the most part.

That said, I already have plenty of ammo.
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at the moment, can't find 5.56 for less than .50 a pop. But if you don't mind .223 then you can find them for much less. .50 a round for practice ammo is my limit either way.

I pay a bit more sometimes for good varmint rounds. I know it's not necessary but I do like 3600 fps stuff sometimes.
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You can order 100 rounds of "Herters" which is just repackaged Tula from Cabelas for ~$0.38/round INCLUDING shipping. They've had this in stock regularly the last 6 weeks or so.
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How much ammo is too much?

There is no such thing unless you are on fire or swimming.
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Just food for thought ....

As a note I only purchase and store what I will shoot in a year's time. I don't buy any more due to storage and safety issues.

Insurance companies are beginning to raise people's homeowners insurance premiums if they find the owner of the policy to be 'hoarding' ammo, powder, and reloading components. There are laws that dictate how much ammo and/or powder can be safely stored in any one location.

Just for the record.

How I know this? I have both HAZMAT and Mine Blasting Certifications.
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Good point.

That's another way you know you have too much ammo.

You come home and find a red tag on the door declaring your house a HAZMAT site.
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No one knows what is in that other gun safe, lol.

Plus i dont see them even checking without a warrant. And i really dont see a judge signing a warrant going on someone "thinking" u may have too much ammo in ur house.

Good luck to them thats all i can say.

Too much ammo or too much gun safe..........Nope
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I sold my .458 Lott rifle when ammo got to around $7.00 per round. Ten boxes of ammo was worth more than the rifle.
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No one knows what is in that other gun safe, lol.

Plus i dont see them even checking without a warrant. And i really dont see a judge signing a warrant going on someone "thinking" u may have too much ammo in ur house.

Good luck to them thats all i can say.
I don't believe an insurance rep needs a warrant, and yes they have the right to inspect at any time. Refuse them and you might find yourself without coverage...
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I don't believe an insurance rep needs a warrant, and yes they have the right to inspect at any time. Refuse them and you might find yourself without coverage...
I guess there is a first time for everything. But ive personally never had it happen in all my years of living. Although they did inspect the outside of my house when i first put insurance on it way back when. I dont recall them asking to come inside and check.

But i guess if it ever boiled down to it. I dont mind finding another insurance company. But as stated, ive never had it happen and i dont recall ever hearing of it happen by any of my neighbors, relatives or friends.

Maybe the States differ.
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I've been finding PMC .223 bronze for $8 a box lately. That's the cheapest brass ammo I have been able to find. I don't mind shooting at that price. Was just a local gun show this weekend and saw lots of cases of 1000rds for $450. Wolf, Tul and other garbage ammo was around $350 per 1000.

As to how much is too much?? Is that really a question?
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This is probably not a real worry unless you have a fire and they find out about it during the cleanup.

Insurance agents want your business and don't go out of their way to find reasons to dump you.

They do make weird mistakes.

One year my fire policy went way up and I asked why.

They told me our house was too far from a fire hydrant.

I pointed out there was a hydrant in the front yard, and I would know as I had to mow around it every week.

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You can buy that TulAmmo .223 junk at WalMart for $.27/round when they have it, they also regularly get federal for .34/rd which is brass. They have a 3 box limit which sucks, but it's there sometimes
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I would think .22 LR @ .05 per round is good.That is what I paid at Gander Mountain fora bucket of 1400 rounds of Rem golden bullets. I reload all my center fire stuff all except .45 ACP
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I am sorry, I only read the title of your post. If it is practice ammo, what are you practicing for? I don't shoot much .223, but I can still hit a man size target a crossed my living room. If it is self defense ammo, what is your life worth? Hard to make a judgement.
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I don't consider 223 a good home defense round, but that's just my opinion, especially across the living room type engagement.
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Just food for thought ....

As a note I only purchase and store what I will shoot in a year's time. I don't buy any more due to storage and safety issues.

Insurance companies are beginning to raise people's homeowners insurance premiums if they find the owner of the policy to be 'hoarding' ammo, powder, and reloading components. There are laws that dictate how much ammo and/or powder can be safely stored in any one location.

Just for the record.

How I know this? I have both HAZMAT and Mine Blasting Certifications.
I have been an insurance agent for 23 years and own an insurance agency. I've never heard such a thing....ever. How much ammo or reloading equipment you own isn't even a question on a homeowners application and an insurance inspection company typically only does an exterior inspection once a policy is written unless the house value is over $500k then an interior inspection is requested also to help verify estimated rebuilding cost - not count your ammo (they have better things to do). At least here in PA.

Oh yea...back on topic.... 50 cents a round is my limit. But I also have about 4000 rounds squirreled away.

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As a note I only purchase and store what I will shoot in a year's time. I don't buy any more due to storage and safety issues.
All things are relative ... I shoot roughly 15k a year, these days. Back in the late 70s and early 80s it was close to 50k+. I have much more than a year's supply of ammo at any one time.

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I told my insurance agent this and he laughed. I had to explain what "hoarding ammo" was and he laughed harder. Says he's never heard of this happening, the rate increase, or even anyone checking on such things.

The average shooter/reloader will seldom come close to the limits set by the National Fire Code.
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The cheapest I can find quality ammunition (5.56) is @ .50 per rd.

Most expensive I see is @ $1.25-$1.50 per rd.

So where do you guys draw the line on costs??

And after the next gun tragedy, you think it will go up again??

If I gotta pay $1.25-$1.50 per round, I'm going to be shooting my 15/22 lots more and even .22LR is getting outrageous at some places.
Right now .50 cents a round seem to be the norm for 5.56 but you can get .223 a lot cheaper. I will wait for the free shipping before I order not worth to add $20 shipping brings price to high for my blood. If I could find .22 ammo around here I would be shooting the 15-22 but haven't seen it for months now.

As for ammo hoarding, ammo hoarding is the #1 cause for boat sinking's and all the gun loses on this forum, boats can't handle the extra weight, guys must not have been sailors, not me tsunami got mine thought hoarding ammo would keep the house from floating away it didn't.
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When I bought my T the dealer threw in 100rds of 5.56 and the cost on the box (Remington) was $49.99.

.50 per rd seems the best I can do w/brass. Bought 500 greens @ .60 per rd, delivered.

Cabelas cut loose with some 5.56 two days ago and it was .50 w/brass American Eagle.

Seems .50 per rd is the best I can do these days. Maybe it'll get better, maybe not??
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It costs me $.21 each to load my own bullets. much cheaper than buying.
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NEVER too much ammo!
That battle cry is why I can still shoot every week, yet haven't bought any ammo in over Two years.
i saw the writing on the wall and stocked up, at this rate I've still got another year or so before I begin to worry about any caliber I shoot.
Of course, should prices come down to acceptable levels again, I'll melt the numbers off my debit card!
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.35-.43 for brass cased 223 and 556.

.25 for steel cased Tulammo 223
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Ooopppsss.... $1 a round is too much!

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I don't consider 223 a good home defense round, but that's just my opinion, especially across the living room type engagement.
It's a rare instance that .223 isn't a good self/home defense round. Although considered a "varmint" round by a great many (while good at that I believe it's a huge mis-categorization), at it's core it is designed as an anti-personnel round. Several times the energy and tissue damage of handgun rounds with less penetration through walls, easier on your ears with less recoil than a shotgun (which still requires aiming at living room distances as there is no spread at that distance from muzzle) and the standard mag for AR-15 style is 30 rounds.
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Just food for thought ....

As a note I only purchase and store what I will shoot in a year's time. I don't buy any more due to storage and safety issues.

Insurance companies are beginning to raise people's homeowners insurance premiums if they find the owner of the policy to be 'hoarding' ammo, powder, and reloading components. There are laws that dictate how much ammo and/or powder can be safely stored in any one location.

Just for the record.

How I know this? I have both HAZMAT and Mine Blasting Certifications.
Just for the record, it does not matter what certifications you have. Ammo and components that are stored do not have to be declared on a homeowners policy and therefore does not mean anything in this context. Store and reload all you want, the insurance companies will do whatever they want anyway, whatever we do as private citizens will not matter in the end. Be ready for the dangers ahead and forget about the hype.
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:44 PM
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Man, some of these responses really got off topic. The question is around the price of ammo, not quantity.

.40 for brass is tops for me.
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Between the rumors, the tragedies, and the gun control freaks, ammo has become hard to get - but it's all BS. Ammo is only hard to get because there are wars ongoing, that always tightens ammo availability, and the government does buy it's share for law enforcement, too. But not to subjugate the American people - that's an idiotic rumor. But it does cause people to hoard ammo, buy, buy, buy. Eventually, the shortage will end and ammo will become easy to obtain again.

Meanwhile, I do agree that there is no such thing as too much ammo or too many guns. So, okay, if you're able to obtain thousands of rounds of ammo, and you shoot hundreds of rounds annually, does that make you a hoarder? I don't have the answer to that, but every active shooter I know keeps a stockpile of ammunition for each of his guns. That gets to be hard to do if you have twenty different calibers. It's pretty easy if you stick to .38/.357, 9mm, .45 ACP, and .22 LR for your handguns, and maybe .40 S&W, and 7.62 NATO and 5.56NATO for your mil-spec rifles. When you factor in your shotguns and hunting rifles the mix gets a little more complex. So, as I said, you cannot have too much ammunition.

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BillyJack is right - we got off topic. If the question is how much money is too much to pay for ammunition then I have two answers.

If you NEED the ammo, almost no amount is too much - if you can afford it. I hate to get price gauged during an ammunition shortage so I'm rather circumspect about how much I'll pay but that's also because of what I said earlier - I don't NEED ammunition, I always have plenty. So (1), if you can afford it then higher prices don't matter too much and (2) if you need it, higher prices don't matter too much. Otherwise, don't allow yourself to get ripped off.

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The cheapest I can find quality ammunition (5.56) is @ .50 per rd.

Most expensive I see is @ $1.25-$1.50 per rd.

So where do you guys draw the line on costs??

And after the next gun tragedy, you think it will go up again??

If I gotta pay $1.25-$1.50 per round, I'm going to be shooting my 15/22 lots more and even .22LR is getting outrageous at some places.
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.35 per round for .223
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I'm always wrestling with the issue of how much is too much to pay, until I find some available and then I get crazy and buy it. I have tried telling myself that .10/round of .22lr is my comfort zone unless I'm feeling wealthy that day. For .223 or 5.56 I try to limit it to .50/rnd at the most. Again, it all depends on the day and how my bills look and how my bank account looks. Some days I'm cheaper/stingier/tighter than other days when I might bust out another $20 and buy the stuff if I see it.

Go with your own comfort level and bank balance is my advice.
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MidwayUSA has some 5.56 & 2.23 IN STOCK.

Cheapest for brass is @ .50. Limit of 5 boxes.

Check the Ammo thread for links
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I just attempted to order five authorized boxes of 5.56 from Midway, $45 for the ammo and almost $20 bucks for the UPS truck....bumped 45 cents to $.65 cents a round and the "forget it" button for me.
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But i guess if it ever boiled down to it. I dont mind finding another insurance company. But as stated, ive never had it happen and i dont recall ever hearing of it happen by any of my neighbors, relatives or friends.

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as you now carry "baggage" which the new insurance company will certainly find
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I just attempted to order five authorized boxes of 5.56 from Midway, $45 for the ammo and almost $20 bucks for the UPS truck....bumped 45 cents to $.65 cents a round and the "forget it" button for me.
I got 10 boxes + $18 shipping and I know I'd spend more than that for fuel in my F150 looking around for it.
Ammo can't be had around me at any price!!
Excessive shipping costs have prevented me from buying lots of stuff.
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I have been finding good deals on Gunbot.net. Also Cabela's, $5 shipping if you have their Cabela's Club Visa.
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I have been finding good deals on Gunbot.net. Also Cabela's, $5 shipping if you have their Cabela's Club Visa.
I have it shipped to one of their stores which is 10 miles away, for free.

No ammo on their shelves, tho. At least below .60 rd for brass 5.56.

I've got a batch comin at the end of the month and while I'm there, I check the shelves, too. Since last Oct, bare.
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If anyone needs some ammo, you can get 1000 rounds of Tula for 399. It's expensive for Tula, but better than paying over 50 cents/round elsewhere or not having any at all.

223 Tulammo 55gr FMJ ammo, 1000rd case. ONLINE ONLY
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The lgs got lots of 9mm in but he's got .60 per round on it. I passed on that one.
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The percussion from the Newtown shootings has not stopped yet so prices remain high.
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After cancelling the ammo at Midway I checked my local Bi mart...they have normally had ammo at non gouge prices. Bought two 100 packs of American Eagle 5.56 and a brick of American Eagle .22 lr. $22. Bucks for the brick was a little more than normal but .42 cents for the .223 was acceptable to me. They also had plain white box of Federal 20 round for about eight fifty and a stack of 100 rd Mini Mag.
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Federal 1000 rounds of .223 for $449.

Federal AE .223 Rem 55gr FMJ BT (1000/rds loose pack)-Ballistic Products
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