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Wet or Dry
I pick my Mid MOE up tomorrow and bring it home for it's first cleaning be fore I shoot it. My question is do I run the BCG wet or dry? I have read articles that say one way or the other is best. I haven't shot a AR since I was at NAS GTMO in Cuba and if I recall we used a lot of Breakfree on them. That was 30 years ago so I am not going to trust my memory on this. Don
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Thanks a lot I printed that out. I was hoping something like that would come with the manual as S&W is petty good at that. Don
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They only time you want to run dry is if you are in dusty or sandy conditions. Like the Middle East or the American Southwest, as examples. I believe there is some special instructions for extreme cold conditions as well but unless you plan to spend a lot of quality time in northern Canada or Alaska, chances are you won't need to worry about that.
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^^^^^ I live in Minnesota, and I have fired a Colt AR-15 in -20 degree weather with no problems. The rifle was lubed normally using Break Free.
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Being a little too wet won't hurt anything. It'll blow any excess out the ejection port first shot. I lube 'em generously when new, then lightly thereafter.
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I was being sarcastic. I can't believe how many times this subject has been brought up.
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I was being sarcastic. I can't believe how many times this subject has been brought up.
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Ha! Ooops...I don't follow this sub-forum too often, obviously....
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Not a problem. I sometimes look at the 15/22 forums and not this one for a while at times. Hard to tell when someone is joking or serious. All is fine.
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When someone asks about "wet" I think of the guys I see sometimes at the Club who have obviously slathered the entire bolt carrier and charge handle.
IMO, using a quality lube that does a decent job of staying in place where it's needed is prefered to dunking the rifle in a drum of oil.
I use Wilson Combat Universal. When it gets below freezing I use their regular oil. I don't lubricate the chrome silicon buffer spring.
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It don't freeze but a couple days a year in this part of Florida and I will just leave it in the gun case on those days. Don
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I run dry with SFL-0 grease on wear areas.
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Different experts recommend different things. I've read wet, wet, wet and I've read keep the BCG mostly dry. I think you have to decide yourself how you want to run it and see how it reacts.
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wet for sure, plus running it wet makes cleaning easier.
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I have watched many, many Hickok45 videos on YouTube (I know, I know- I need to get a life). I have noticed a couple of things:
1. He runs most of the many guns on his channel wet enough that you can see lube coming out of them.
2. He makes it a point to let the viewers know about any jams he experiences, both on and off camera, and he seems to have very few of them. If he does have malfunctions with a gun he features, he tries to determine whether it's the fault of the ammo, the magazine, or the gun itself. Bottom line is that for a guy who shoots many, many guns on his videos, and goes through lots and lots of ammo, he has remarkably few issues with any of the guns.
He particularly notes in various videos that he does not spare the lube on AR's, and says he believes it's good to keep them wet.
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I don't think I've ever heard someone say "Damn, I put too much lube on".
Wilson Combat or Lucas Gun Oil.
Both are "sticky" enough to keep the BCG nice and slick.
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I can tell you from first hand, personal experience, too much lube can cause an issue. In the video, they shot 10 rounds... not much of a test.
I had a cleaned and lubed Ruger P90 that I took to qualify once. I had it wet. After about 25 rounds, it would not return to battery after being fired. I would bump the slide forward to take my next shot. Broke it down, wiped the excess lube from the gun, along with the powder residue that was in the rails that the slide would ride on and the firearm began to function properly again.
Your mileage may vary, but that was my experience.
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I switched to lithium grease #2 HP and love the stuff, it stays put no matter how many rounds I shoot and clean up is a snap. It seems to grab the carbon up. It help with heat and since I have been using it my Sport seems not to get as hot as it used to using my old liquid lube.
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