Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Rifles and Shotguns > Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles

Notices

Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles Dedicated to the Smith & Wesson M&P-15 Rifles


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-17-2016, 12:38 PM
delta-419 delta-419 is offline
SWCA Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 2,243
Likes: 6,359
Liked 3,411 Times in 583 Posts
Unhappy S&W M&P AR15 Problems

Took my new M&P 15 out to the farm for the first time since getting it for Christmas. Its got issues that need resolving: failure to feed properly, does not strip off the mag each time, tried several mags; fails to extract fired case, at times and some cases stuck hard. Best, could only get a string of 10 rounds off before FTF. Thinking that it may be the ammo, I have ordered some surplus LC Federal ammo and will try that when it comes in. What should I check for in the rifle.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-17-2016, 12:51 PM
cyphertext cyphertext is offline
US Veteran
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wylie, TX
Posts: 4,670
Likes: 1,075
Liked 3,823 Times in 2,040 Posts
Default

Did you break it down, clean, and lube it before taking it out? What kind of ammo are you using?
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 01-17-2016, 02:59 PM
jagular's Avatar
jagular jagular is offline
Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 448
Likes: 59
Liked 252 Times in 155 Posts
Default

My first thought would be Ammo related. If it's underpowered it will not push the bolt far back enough to pick up the next round. This would cause extraction and feeding issues. Could also be a feed ramp issue. Post some pictures of the feed ramp when you can. Also, what Ammo was used as requested above.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-17-2016, 03:47 PM
Lee in Quartzsite's Avatar
Lee in Quartzsite Lee in Quartzsite is offline
Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Kingman, Arizona
Posts: 2,238
Likes: 759
Liked 2,921 Times in 951 Posts
Default

What mags are you using? Sounds like an ammo issue to me
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-17-2016, 05:03 PM
delta-419 delta-419 is offline
SWCA Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 2,243
Likes: 6,359
Liked 3,411 Times in 583 Posts
Default Ammo

Ammo was a remanufactured couple of 50 round boxes I bought when I got the gun from dealer at a gun show. I did not clean or lube the gun before shooting it. It is on my "to do" list today and will be done before the next range visit. I also think it was the ammo and why I ordered the LC AAP ammo. Had to use a rubber hammer to get the stuck cases out.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-17-2016, 05:09 PM
shotgun693 shotgun693 is offline
Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 497
Likes: 82
Liked 681 Times in 236 Posts
Default

Soooo, how did you use a rubber hammer to remove the stuck cases?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-17-2016, 05:43 PM
rtquig's Avatar
rtquig rtquig is offline
Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Forked River, NJ
Posts: 431
Likes: 31
Liked 164 Times in 103 Posts
Default

Using gun show reloads and not cleaning your gun before using it? I would be a little embarrassed to post that.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 01-17-2016, 06:22 PM
hoc9sw hoc9sw is offline
Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,887
Likes: 1,635
Liked 3,126 Times in 1,326 Posts
Default

Reman ammo is not a good way to start off, if only for warranty questions. But I would tend to avoid the brand you tried in the future.

But I am also a clean / lube / inspect before going to the range type.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 01-20-2016, 05:31 PM
Maddmax's Avatar
Maddmax Maddmax is offline
US Veteran
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: N.E. Iowa Boondocks USA
Posts: 2,888
Likes: 5,524
Liked 1,599 Times in 993 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by delta-419 View Post
I did not clean or lube the gun before shooting it. It is on my "to do" list today and will be done before the next range visit.
You need to clean the living daylights out of it followed by a good lube. Get a couple extra bore brushes. Sounds like the bore is full of gunk and needs an extra good scrubbing too.
__________________
THIS WE'LL DEFEND ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-20-2016, 11:07 PM
sgtsandman's Avatar
sgtsandman sgtsandman is offline
US Veteran
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Posts: 1,400
Likes: 351
Liked 714 Times in 476 Posts
Default

When you go to clean the bore, it might be a good idea to let the solvent sit for a few minutes before you run a bore brush through. Like maybe about 10-15 minutes. Then run dry patches through until they come out clean. If you use something mild like Hoppes #9, it won't hurt the bore to let it sit.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 01-21-2016, 09:54 PM
tcon tcon is offline
Member
S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems S&W M&P AR15 Problems  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 487
Likes: 203
Liked 753 Times in 285 Posts
Default

Yeah... do a complete barrel and chamber cleaning including the bolt carrier and the bolt.

For chamber cleaning use one of these:


In regard to the bolt carrier, remove the firing pin and bolt, clean, lube, and reassemble. I always make sure the gaps in the three gas rings (small silver cylinder rings) are staggered and NOT lined up. Probably doesn't matter that much but I always put the gaps at 12, 4, and 8 o'clock. The bolt and internal cylinder in the carrier do need liberal coats of oil. Be sure the bolt slides back and forth inside the carrier. It's supposed to fit snug, have moderate resistance but still slide. Before firing, the barrel and chamber should be patched to soak up any excess oil.

Get some new Federal, UMC or Remington ball ammo.

Since you already have had issues, once cleaned and back at the range, go slow to rule out and examine things one-by-one. The failure to strip and failure to extract are probably two issues that need to be looked at separately.

Lock the bolt carrier back, put one cartridge in a magazine. Be sure the magazine is fully seated and locked in. Try pulling the mag out to see if the magazine catch is fully engaging and has the mag locked in.

Safety glasses and ears on and use a bipod or a rest under the front handguard. While holding the charging handle back with your right hand to keep the bolt carrier from slamming forward, press the bolt release button on the left side and slowly let the bolt carrier go forward to see if the bolt adequately engages the cartridge base, strips the cartridge and slides it into the chamber. Use the forward assist to fully chamber and lock the live round and fire it to see if it cycles and ejects properly and the action stays open.

If no issues, great. Put another single in the mag and this time, let the carrier slam forward like normal, fire the cartridge and see if it again cycles/ejects properly and stays open.

But if at first, the round stayed in the magazine when you slowly moved the carrier forward, it means that the bolt is not catching the cartridge. If the bolt does catch the bottom of the cartridge and crushes the cartridge toward the front, STOP, pull the charging handle back, press the bottom of the carrier release button and get the live cartridge out of the rifle. You may want to try a different type of magazine or call the manufacturer since the warranty is still in place.

Even occasional failure to feed or failure to extract is unacceptable. Don't be shy about contacting the manufacturer.

Last edited by tcon; 01-21-2016 at 10:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AR15 IPB? zzzippper Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 0 10-30-2014 11:37 PM
New Look for the AR15 Damn Yankee The Lounge 16 02-11-2014 01:00 AM
Looking for AR15 john45 Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles 54 01-19-2014 11:38 AM
American Classic 1911, DSA AR15 Upper, DPMS AR15 bolt carrier. Frito Bandito GUNS - For Sale or Trade 4 12-10-2011 10:59 PM
problems,, problems,,, magazine fix???? leswill Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 10 08-13-2011 09:23 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:29 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)