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Old 07-26-2016, 02:43 AM
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I'm sure this has been asked but the topic I tried searching wouldn't pull up. What's the difference in the smith m&p 15 standard, and the m&p15or. The reason I ask is bps has a sale on the standard right now for 449, and I'm wondering if the OR is work the other 500 and some change. Both are the .22 caliber

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I believe you're comparing a .22LR version to a .223/5.56 version. The most expensive .22LR M&P15 on S&Ws website is only $709 and that's the Performance Center version. While the cheapest .223/5.56 rifle is $739 and the OR version of the .223/5.56 is $1069
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I'm honestly not for sure so here's a ss of the one on sale and the OR at basspro

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$449 is an M&P 15-22. It's a .22LR.
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And the only difference is the or will shoot .22 aswell right? Is it really a better deal considering I will have to buy sights for it right now? Giving I will probly just end up throwing iron sights on it at first, and adding a 3x9 later on either one. I got to get a new 8x16 for my hunting rifle offline anyways so I was going to knock them both out at the same time for around 200 bucks

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The M&P 15 OR (optics ready) is chambered for 5.56mm/.223 Remington.
Two very different rounds from .22LR.
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Thank yall for that I guess I was misunderstanding because my wife's parents just picked up the 1000 dollar one and didn't really know what they got so I guess they fed mixed info because they were originally the ones that turned me onto this sale

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Thank yall for that I guess I was misunderstanding because my wife's parents just picked up the 1000 dollar one and didn't really know what they got so I guess they fed mixed info because they were originally the ones that turned me onto this sale

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Your wife's parents spent $1000 and they don't know what they got?
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Yuup seems like it..

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Your wife's parents spent $1000 and they don't know what they got?
Pretty much seems like it. Their the one that told me about the one on sale being a GREAT deal (in their words) what all calibers will the .223/5.56 shoot out of it? I'm pretty new to the ar just shot 06s 270s, and now that yall made it clear the same thing pretty much a .22 lr that I have in my gun safe, can't beat my 44 short rifle tho I love it in a pinch I the woods

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I doubt that they are confused about what they have... hopefully they don't think they bought a .22lr.

The confusion comes from Bass Pro not listing the proper model number on that "standard" rifle... it should be M&P 15-22.

As for the rest, there are rarely great deals to be had from Bass Pro when it comes to firearms.

A 5.56 chambered barrel can shoot 5.56mm and .223. A .223 chambered barrel should not be used for 5.56mm.

Both could shoot .22lr, but requires a conversion kit... basically a hole different bolt... not something they do straight out of the box.
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I doubt that they are confused about what they have... hopefully they don't think they bought a .22lr.

The confusion comes from Bass Pro not listing the proper model number on that "standard" rifle... it should be M&P 15-22.

As for the rest, there are rarely great deals to be had from Bass Pro when it comes to firearms.

A 5.56 chambered barrel can shoot 5.56mm and .223. A .223 chambered barrel should not be used for 5.56mm.

Both could shoot .22lr, but requires a conversion kit... basically a hole different bolt... not something they do straight out of the box.
They got 1000 rounds of 223 but when I asked them what caliber the gun itself was they said they didn't know just showed a pic I'm going to continue shopping around for the .223/5.56 model now that I know what I'm looking at/for thank you for the help. Have you ordered one from smith themselves? Just wondering what all will come with it in the box if I get it sent to a lgs

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As other's have already posted, one is a M&P 15 chambered for 5.56 NATO and the other is a M&P 15-22 chambered for .22lr.

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Technically you're correct. Both are .22 caliber. They will both punch a similar diameter hole in paper (the .223 being .003" larger). The difference is the cartridge.
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Bass pro as a whole will be 15-20%higher on most items than you can purchase elsewhere, gun especially.

Start your search online for a Smith and Wesson M&P 15 sport II. It will be ready to shoot out of the box for under $600.

And just to give you an idea of BPS price inflation. Buds gun has the M&P 15 OR for $834 shipped.
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To the Original Poster, if you have the box/case the rifle came in still, you can go to the Smith & Wesson web site and match the number with what they have listed and get all the little details on what the rifle has.
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How do the eagle arms ar15s compete? They seem to be relatively cheaper I read some stuff online about problems accepting and loading bullets out of 30 round mags. Is this true or hogwash?

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How do the eagle arms ar15s compete? They seem to be relatively cheaper I read some stuff online about problems accepting and loading bullets out of 30 round mags. Is this true or hogwash?

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I'm guessing the new one. Took my wife to a lgs today and seen one on the wall with a 570 price tag didn't know to much about the brand so I figured I'd come home and ask y'all, and look at some reviews before deciding

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Eagle Arms is some type of division of Armalite. Armalite is the reason there's an A in AR.

Armalite lists the three rifles by Eagle Arms as having .223 Wylde chamber which typically shoots .223 ammo more accurately and can still handle the pressure of 5.56 ammo.

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I read somewhere about the eagle arms offering a 2 staged trigger out the box. Was this false or was it just on older models? I like the two staged because besides defense purposes I'm going to use it as a learning rifle for my wife to start deer hunting with since the recoil isnt that bad

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They got 1000 rounds of 223 but when I asked them what caliber the gun itself was they said they didn't know just showed a pic I'm going to continue shopping around for the .223/5.56 model now that I know what I'm looking at/for thank you for the help. Have you ordered one from smith themselves? Just wondering what all will come with it in the box if I get it sent to a lgs

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^^^Sounds like a disaster in the making^^^^ Not knowing what they bought? 1000 of .223 and not sure if the firearm they purchased will fire the ammo? Sounds like my parents, who every time I see them I advise not to buy a gun.
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caught academy having a sell on the dpms love it so far I put about 60 rounds through it sighting in my scope the other day, and even with the barrel heating up after I got it sighted in it stayed dead on looking into a new handguard for it so I can put a front handle on it. Anyone tried the handles with a light, and laser on it? I want a green laser I know forsure

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caught academy having a sell on the dpms love it so far I put about 60 rounds through it sighting in my scope the other day, and even with the barrel heating up after I got it sighted in it stayed dead on looking into a new handguard for it so I can put a front handle on it. Anyone tried the handles with a light, and laser on it? I want a green laser I know forsure

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I got the Viridian C5L green laser & light combo for my Glock 19. I love it.
I'd get a X5L for my Sport2 if I was shopping for one.
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caught academy having a sell on the dpms love it so far I put about 60 rounds through it sighting in my scope the other day, and even with the barrel heating up after I got it sighted in it stayed dead on looking into a new handguard for it so I can put a front handle on it. Anyone tried the handles with a light, and laser on it? I want a green laser I know forsure

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Handle? You mean verticle fore grip?

This thread kind of scares me.
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Yes a "vertical fore grip" I'm debating between one I can put a light, laser on or the magpul angled fore grip and just purchasing a laser and light separately and adding in on my quadrails

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I got the Viridian C5L green laser & light combo for my Glock 19. I love it.
I'd get a X5L for my Sport2 if I was shopping for one.
Definitely might look into this its about the same cost as if I was going to purchase them separately thanks for that

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You're pretty new to this platform as you said, I'd buy more ammo and get to the range and practice with the gun before you start swapping stuff out on it. We've seen lots of people here rush out and buy stuff only later to find out it won't fit their rifle.

My suggestion. Get familiar with your rifle. Read up on the AR functionality and understand how the rifle works and how different accesories will fit on it. That will help you a ton and probably will save you lots of time and money.
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Agree with Kadonny. Ammo and range time is a better investment than a laser. Unless you are going to spend the money to take QCB training courses to teach you how to actually use all that tactical gear, it is just dead weight on a rifle.
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Also keep in mind that the M&P-15OR has a chrome lined barrel while the M&P-15 Sport II does not.

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You're pretty new to this platform as you said, I'd buy more ammo and get to the range and practice with the gun before you start swapping stuff out on it. We've seen lots of people here rush out and buy stuff only later to find out it won't fit their rifle.

My suggestion. Get familiar with your rifle. Read up on the AR functionality and understand how the rifle works and how different accesories will fit on it. That will help you a ton and probably will save you lots of time and money.
Yea pretty new to ars. I just have experience with pistols, bows and hunting rifles I'm not really concerned with laser, and lights right now looking more into adding a bipod, and for grip in. And to do so on the dpms setup I have to swap out the handguard for quadrails, or a different handguard I can add rails to

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