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Old 07-26-2017, 02:02 PM
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Finished working with it last week.
I'm normally a Colt guy & I do not need another AR, but this one's very tempting.

Stuck an Aimpoint on it for accuracy testing at 100 yards with 6 different loads & four bullet weights (55-77), including three OTMs & the military 62-grain green tip.

Three of the 6 loads produced best 3-shot groups at or under an inch, the other three loads' best groups were all under 2 inches.

I like the accuracy, the 1/8 twist, and the mid-length gas system.
This one's a cut above their cheaper models.
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Old 07-31-2017, 12:12 AM
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Which loads did what?

I have this rifle but never have yet fired it.
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:03 AM
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A single three shot group means nothing and can be a random occurrence. Five shot groups are better and ten shot groups are better still.

Simple statistics. It explains why on one day you can place three shots under an inch and a week later they go into 2.5".
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I have no interest in debating the number of shots in test groups.
I did not fire only one 3-shot group with each load.

3 hole groups are enough to tell me what I need to know.

The best 3-shot 100-yard groups with each load were:
Win USA 55 Grain 1 Inch
Eagle 62 Grain FMJ 3/4 Inch
Fed 62 Grain Mil Green Tip FMJ 1 7/8 Inch
Hills 69 Grain OTM 1 9/16 Inch
Hills 77Grain OTM 1 5/16 Inch
SIG 77 Grain OTM Match 7/8 Inch

Nice rifle.
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I have the previous mid moe. I replaced the moe handguard with the SL. I have to agree. Nice rifle. Flawless, so far.
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Still trying to figure out financing to keep it.
If I did, the front sight would have to go.
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Not debating, just sayin'....................

I have no doubt that you shot the three shot groups you show in your list. What's missing are the three shot groups that you did not post. There is a reason the NRA and better gun magazine require their authors to shoot 4 or 5 five shot groups for publication.

I hope you find the financing. Enjoy your rifle.
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Apparently I don't sell to the "better" gunmags.

For rifles it's 3 shots, for handguns it's 5.
Works for me.

I include the best groups to show the best a given gun does with specific loads in my hands on that day under those conditions.

More involved testing is up to a buyer. Can't do it all for you.
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What is a decent price for one of these?
Local shop has one of the older ones for $900.
I've been interested in it, but it seems you can put together a similar one for around $500.
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Not debating, just sayin'....................

I have no doubt that you shot the three shot groups you show in your list. What's missing are the three shot groups that you did not post. There is a reason the NRA and better gun magazine require their authors to shoot 4 or 5 five shot groups for publication.

I hope you find the financing. Enjoy your rifle.
The Army uses 3 shot groups when zeroing........
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No idea what a decent price would be on one.
I doubt you could duplicate it for $500.
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