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Old 09-18-2017, 03:40 PM
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So, everyone here has been very helpful with selecting my ar15, cleaning and lubing it.

Now I need to learn how to shoot safely and accurately. Rather then watching many youtube videos and asking many basic questions here, I rather pay and take a course. This way I understand proper safety, how to stand, defense, etc. etc. and keep things simple.

I would like to take the course below.

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Open - Fundamentals of Defensive Carbine | 360 Tactical Training
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Let me know your thoughts and questions I should ask.

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Do you not have a friend that can take you to the range, show you how to operate the rifle, and explain sight picture, trigger control, etc.? Outside of that, for your level, I would recommend getting a NRA instructor to give you some one on one... you would get more out of that at this point in the game.

Avoid the "tactical" type classes for now. (just my opinion)
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Just about anyone can say they teach tactical shooting. Go to some shooting events and ask around about who is a good teacher locally. Most of us can't afford to go to Gunsite Academy.
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My Uncle Sam taught me how to use one. Those had a fun switch that you don't get with the AR-15 .
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Do you not have a friend that can take you to the range, show you how to operate the rifle, and explain sight picture, trigger control, etc.? Outside of that, for your level, I would recommend getting a NRA instructor to give you some one on one... you would get more out of that at this point in the game.

Avoid the "tactical" type classes for now. (just my opinion)
Thank you cyphertext,

No, I don't know anyone that is available to help teach me how to shoot ar15, wish I did. My cousin but he lIves 1000 miles from here. Yes, no tatical for now
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I second the NRA instructor.

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Just recently I sent my grown daughter (a gun site 250 graduate) who lives in another state to this class (Basic Carbine Level 1 | 88 Tactical Rifle Training Course AR-15, AK-47). My thinking was that it would be easy and cost-effective for her to take the basic one day class in her area. Hopefully she would get up to speed somewhat and have fun. I am a retired rifle and pistol instructor, and she is a pistol instructor herself.

It turned out to be somewhat weird, and frankly a waste of time and money. Too much classroom time, and then way too much pressure on "beginners" to do fast and hard drills for too long. My daughter is an experienced pistol shooter and horse trainer. She was not only frustrated but wound up with some muscle injuries--as did other students.

The irony is that I will wind up working with her on this stuff next spring when she visits, and we will do it right--pace the training, train to a certain level, and have fun. It shouldn't be that hard.

I did consider sending her to Gunsite's class, but the tuition is pretty steep, plus all the travel, lodging, and meals would have run the cost up pretty close to 4K. I watched their DVD of the course content, and frankly it's very good--and very physically demanding. Definitely NOT for everyone.

I think a good 101 carbine course could be done with motivated students in about two days, which would get them to a point where they confidently could continue to do basic drills at home, on their own, with a timer.

There might be some leads to courses here: M4Carbine.net Forums
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There might be some leads to courses here: M4Carbine.net Forums
Goodolboy, if you go to M4carbine.net, do not post... read, but again, do not post... they are not a friendly group for newbies.
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I click the link but no NRA instructors in Houston Texas, only 2 in Texas.
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Google Project Appleseed,they have a course in College Station soon and you should be able to find helpful people who will get you going. Keep us posted if you try it,never have been to one but have heard good things.
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Google Project Appleseed,they have a course in College Station soon and you should be able to find helpful people who will get you going. Keep us posted if you try it,never have been to one but have heard good things.
Appleseed would be good for teaching basics of shooting, but not really for operation of the AR-15... but I am a little biased against them due to their banning of the M&P 15-22.
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Appleseed is apparently very good for getting people up to speed. I am a big fan of using .22 LR sub caliber guns for training, general proficiency, and just plain fun at any age...

I am coming up on 6K rounds through my 15-22 (and have bought 3 others as gifts). That Appleseed is down on them is odd indeed.

For my money the best accessory for a full calibered AR is a 15-22 set up to match the "big" gun...
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Thanks,

How did yall learn about ar15? Is everyone on here from the military? Yall know alot about guns. I'm 38 and just now learning.
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In my case (I'm in the latter half of my 50s) I've been around guns all my life. I have one AR-15 (M&P Sport) which I got 4+ years ago. I've never been in the military. If one has experience with guns the AR has some things that are unique to it....but there isn't really anything unique in the basic concepts, IMHO.

If this is your first gun there is a lot to take in. Having the first gun be a semi-automatic is kind of like having a sports car as your first car: You're trying to learn driving itself. Add into that trying to learn the driving skill while using something with a lot of horsepower and is very responsive. Getting into a sports car after having driven a beat up truck is a bit easier than getting right into the sports car when you just got your license.

To that end......if this is your first gun, I'd be VERY VERY cautious about having a round in the chamber and not realizing it. This is very easy to do - both at the firing line as well as general handling off the line. By starting with a simpler model (like a bolt action rifle or revolver pistol) you're developing the muscle memory and mindset in general for safe firearm handling using a firearm that is pretty straightforward. This is why (I think) folks went to the recommendations of getting formal help/training.

Be safe and have fun.

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Learning to shoot with a self loading rifle is like learning to drive a car with an automatic transmission. Just put it in drive and hit the accelerator. You don't have to operate any bolts, levers or pumps between shoots. Just release the safety and press the trigger. The rifle does the rest for you.

Rifles are easy to figure out. I grew up around firearms, so I was given a lot points by my elders. The Air Force taught me nothing about small arms I didn't already know. One thing that has helped me a lot is to simply spend time handling a firearm. I have spent hours in front of the tv dry firing, running the action, bringing them to bear, cleaning, etc, until handling the arm was second nature

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