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Old 02-04-2018, 10:58 AM
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Just wondering if any body has a ATN X-Sight II Day/Night Vision Smart HD Technology Rifle Scope

Looking to purchase a night vision scope for my new SW MP sports ll without breaking the bank.

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I just bought the 3x14, should be here before next weekend. I'll let you know what I think as soon as I try it out.
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I just bought the 3x14, should be here before next weekend. I'll let you know what I think as soon as I try it out.
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Ok, so I got my ATN X-sight II 3x14 in this weekend. So far I am pleased. As soon as I get an SD card for it I'll post some pics.
I bore sighted it on my Sport II on a pitch black, overcast night and it was already close to zero right out of the gate. It takes a little reading of the manual to figure out some of the features like zeroing, but most of the others are pretty intuitive. If you can work a TV remote you can probably figure most of it out without even reading the manual.

I did purchase the X-trac remote and glad I did because manipulating the controls on top of the scope can be difficult. During the day wouldn't have been a problem, but I did this at night and after my eyes got accustomed to looking thru the scope at my target, I was not able to re-focus my eyes to see the controls. I don't know how Apache pilots do it , cause even though I only had one eye in the scope I couldn't force the other eye to focus on the controls. Since the control buttons are somewhat recessed into the housing and my fingers aren't exactly dainty, the buttons weren't easy for me to control by "feel' either. I couldn't see the remote in the dark either, but having the thumb wheel made it easier for me to memorize the orientation of the other control keys, which are also larger than those on the scope and not as recessed. I used the included velcro straps to fasten the X-trac to my hand guard and was able to manipulate the thumbwheel and other buttons easily.
I downloaded the ATN app to my phone and was also able to use it as a remote. This was great for going thru some of the system menus and setting up my preferences like recticle style, color, etc. but I think using the X-trac is going to be more practical out in the field on a dark night when I'm trying to keep my eye in the scope and adjust the zoom and brightness settings at the same time.
I have a fence and metal gate about 100yds from my house and bordered on both sides by trees. I was able to see all the details of the trees, fence, and gate and also identified my cat walking under the gate. I could have easily taken him out assuming my zero was accurate! This was with the illuminator on medium setting, medium focus, and the scope sensitivity on medium. I won't pass final judgment until I actually get some experience with it and down a coyote, but for now I think it is going to suit my needs and seems like it is going to be a viable weapon sight out to at least 200yds in pitch black and probably more on a night with some moonlight.
I also have the 50LRX illuminator from Sniper Hog Lights on the way. I am told this is a much better light than the stock 850pro. We'll see. Hopefully by this weekend I can get the SD card and post some comparison pics between the 50LRX and the 850pro.
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Ok I'll probably have to do this over several posts, so bear with me as I get time to upload and post pics. Tonight I figured out how to save pictures and played around with a couple different illuminators. Tonight was a moonless, overcast, misty, foggy night, about the worst conditions you could ask for short of full rain storm. All the pics in this post are using the Sniper Hawg 50LRX, which is the best I've tried so far. The stock IR850 is good, but doesn't focus as tight as the 50LRX.
The first pic is a gate just under 100yds from me.
The second pic is a semi trailer I'm using for storage, about 150yds. Middle pic is a telephone pole that is almost 200yds. Fourth pic is a 55 gallon barrel laying on its side with bottom facing me about 150yds away. Last pic is a bush about 120yds.
Looking thru the scope is actually clearer than it looks in the pics. I didn't have it mounted to the rifle, just holding it free hand, so some of the grainy resolution is probably due to me not holding the scope steady enough. I'm still getting the hang of adjusting zoom and focus, but all of these pics are on lowest zoom, 3x. I was able to zoom in on a tree line across a field about 400yds away, and I could see good details, but the pics didn't come out clear. When zoomed in on high power, I just can't hold the scope steady enough free hand, so next time I'll mount the scope and get out the led sled and try to get some pics zoomed in at high power and greater distances. For now, my opinion hasn't changed much. I think I am going to be able to use this scope just fine up to 200yds on a dark night, and maybe further on moonlight. Hope to get a moonlit night one of these days.
The reviews I read about battery life are definitely correct. It eats four regular AA batteries within an hour and lithiums within 2hrs. Tonight I used my Power Rock external cell phone battery for a power source. This is small rechargeable pack, 2800mah, that will charge my samsung S5 about twice and it lasted for a good two hours. I have ordered the ATN external pack, but it hasn't arrived yet.
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Good post,thanks. Please keep us posted on your progress,really want to see the accuracy of the scope since it works so much different than a regular scope. How much time is this project taking?
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There is definitely a learning curve. I spent at least an hour and one set of AA going thru the setup menus and learning where things were. Spent another 2 sets of AA learning how to sync the remote and smart phone and bore sighting it. Last night I was just playing around with three different illuminators and trying to take pics. So I've got probably 4 - 5hrs of playing with it so far and haven't taken a shot yet. One of the reasons I went with this scope in the end was the picture and video features, so I've spent a lot of time playing with that.
It's ready for final adjustments and target practice now and I will post pics of that as soon as weather allows.
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Interesting scope. I have some questions...

Is the magnification all digital?
How much of this data is visible in the scope or is it only available through the app?


How rugged is this thing?

Considering a quality scope will run over $1K, the price on this leaves me wondering just how good it really is.
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The focus and diopter are mechanical and the base 3x magnification is in the lenses, but the zoom is digital. All the info in the picture can be viewed in the scope or turned off as you choose. As for rugged, it is definitely hefty and appears very rugged construction, but I haven't banged it around in my truck yet.

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Thanks for posting info feedback, It's been very helpful.
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I have one of the older ATN fixed power generation 1 NV scopes. Does not have all the latest features of this new scope, but it has held up. ATN makes everything from $400 NV scopes to $5,000 + NV and thermo scopes, and are known for being quality products. Basically, you are looking at a small TV screen when looking thru these NV scopes. I might have to check out this new model. It looks like they have really improved the range and clarity on these most recent generation 1 NV scopes compared to the older Generation 1 stuff. Thanks for the review, hugger.

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The biggest reason I went with this choice over the other Gen 1 scopes was the digital technology. Without going into a tutorial, simply put, this scope should not fade out or wash out over time like a normal NV . Bright light will not damage it, even in night mode. As long as the computer keeps working, this scope should continue to function. My biggest "cons" so far are the time it takes it to boot up and the video lag. The lag is not real as far as functional shooting, but if you are following a moving target that is moving too fast or if you are scanning a field too quickly, the display takes a split second or so to catch up.
I did manage to get in a little target practice and zero adjustment today and got a 3" group at 100yds using 55g Tull. Next step will be to fine tune using 62g Hornady Varmagedon in the dark. I'll try to get some video of that and post it.
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Is the group about what the rifle did with previous sights/scope?
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With that ammo, yes, 3" group is about normal. With better ammo it will shoot 1 1/2" groups at 300yds. This is still a stock Sport II, no trigger changes or any other mods other than a rail added under the hand gaurd for a vertical grip.
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I'll try to get some video of that and post it.
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Called ATN today-had some questions for them. I'm glad I did they have new version (scopes) being released next month

Well I placed my pre-order on there new scope ATN X-SIGHT 4K PRO 3-14X being released In April or sooner
Allot of new features


Once I get it and use it I'll put some feed back on here. And some pics of it mounted


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Weather has not co-operated here, maybe this weekend I'll get to do some more shooting with it.
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Looking at the link that Srruger762 gave, I see they have fixed a couple things with this new version that I don't like about the 3x14 hd I have now.
The new scope says it will let you stream video and record at the same time where the one I have will not let you do both. I can stream to phone or tablet, or I can record but not both at same time.
The battery life will be a major improvement if the new scope performs as claimed.
Laser range finder will also be a big improvement if it works. The "smart" range finder on mine works if used properly, but there is a lot of room for error.
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Ok, sorry it took so long, but the weather and my job finally cooperated this weekend long enough to play with this a little more. I'll have to do this in a couple posts and I'll leave out as much of the boring stuff as I can. I apologize in advance for not being a video editing guru, so bear with me please.
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Ok, trying to upload videos and getting an error message about a security token missing?? I'll try posting some still pics and see if that works.
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Ok, here's some pics with black and white instead of green color sceme. First pic is a rabit about 100yds away. The other two are identical to prior post, but in black and white instead of green. I think I like the black and white better.
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Ok, so I can upload pics, but can't get video to upload no matter what I do. I'll guess I'll have to upload to YouTube and post the links.
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Ok, here are the links to the first set of videos








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Ok, I give up folks. I copied all five links in the previous post at the same time, same way, and only one is working. It must be a problem with this forum because I can copy the links into another tab from the you tube post and they work fine, but when I copy them into the S&W forum post and then try to use them they don't work. I'll try to go back and edit the post one more time and see if they work, if not, then I'm done, sorry.
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Ok, the posting tools for this forum need some help. I edited the prior post and pasted the links directly into the post and they work now. The first time I tried using the "insert link" tool button and one out of five worked. I've had my fill of computer frustration for today. I'll come back another day and post the rest of the videos to you tube and post the links here.
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I was able to see all the ones you posted,good work! Looks like it has a learning curve but seems like it will be versatile once you have it down. Really interested in how your zero comes out with the premium ammunition.Thanks for posting I know it was a lot of work.
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Thanks. I did finally get a 1" group after having a senior moment and adjusting the zero the wrong way. Ran out of time before I could try the 62gr Noslers. I got a couple more videos clips to upload when I get a chance and I intend to do some practice in the dark soon and I will try to video that also.
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1 inch group sounds great even for a traditional scope ,very encouraging results for your hard work. Does illustrate the benefits of the premium ammunition.
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Thanks for all the work. I know it takes a lot of time.

Does it have a different reticle? Without a cross or dot in the middle I would find it almost impossible to be precise.
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The reticle I'm using has a dot in the middle but it doesn't show well in some of the pics. It does have several styles of reticle to choose from and almost infinite color choice. I started with red and had to switch to yellow because my target was red and I couldn't see the dot. Some of the night pics I used blue.

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If you are reading this from a smart phone, you won't be able to see the dot, but if you save the pic and expand it you can. The pics in post #22 show the dot pretty clear using my tablet.
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In these clips, I changed the reticle color to yellow so it would show up better against my red target. If you look close you can see the yellow dot in the center. I also took off my vertical grip so I could put the stock back in normal position and get a better cheek weld. I'm still having to lean over the table and the led sled to shoot, so I'm not in my normal shooting form, or a comfortable one for that matter, but I made it work. If you notice my follow through veering to the right after each shot, that's why.



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Just wondering if any body has a ATN X-Sight II Day/Night Vision Smart HD Technology Rifle Scope

Looking to purchase a night vision scope for my new SW MP sports ll without breaking the bank.

Looking for some feedback on this scope or others

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I tried the 5-20 twice and the lower magnification once. Nutshell:

First one lasted about an hour then stopped. It wouldn't power on for anything. Customer service is non-existent so I took it back and got a second one.

The second one was DOA. Nothing. Nada. No worky-worky. I took it back.

Thinking it might be the 5-20 I got a 3-14. The electronics worked for the most part but it would not stay focused. It's not super-easy to focus finely at night and a shot from my .308 knocked it from in focus to so blurry you couldn't make out what you were looking at after a single shot.

I figured 3 strikes you are out. A cheaper alternative is the new 4.6x42S sightmark. It is their second gen and has higher res than the previous version and has some of the cool features like wifi video. You can get one right now using their 10% off coupon at optics planet shipped for about 495 or so. I just ordered one and can report back if you are interested. Note that I had an older sightmark and loved it (for the money of course) and took a couple hogs with it.
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Thanks for the offer to come back with a report ,the more actual forum member reports the better.
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I looked at the sightmark and I won't re-hash why I chose the ATN, but it's spelled out in previous posts. As far as customer service, ATN must have listened to complaints and stepped up thier game. I did have a problem with the IR850 illuminator and called customer service a couple times with no problems and they rectified my problem. Can't ask for more than that as long as they are consistent.
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Sure thing... it should be here tomorrow and I'll fire it up and post at least an initial review. One more thing I should have added is the sightmark is quite a bit lighter and the batteries last waaaaay longer. I thought all those features on the ATN would be cool but they were a distraction. All I want is to be able to see the dang hog in the dark and blast it, clean, DRT.
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I would like to see some real review of the Sightmark myself. I came close to buying one ,and may go ahead and get one to see which I like better. I didn't buy the ATN for the features, but since I have it, I'm going to learn how to use them before I dismiss it. My decision really came down to two things: Thermal can't see through glass or plastic and Gen 1 night vision is going to fade out over time even if you don't damage it with artificial light. That's really what made my mind up to go digital this time around, and there really wasn't anything comparable to ATN in digital. Hopefully that changes soon and prices come down a little as a result.
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I tried the 5-20 twice and the lower magnification once. Nutshell:

First one lasted about an hour then stopped. It wouldn't power on for anything. Customer service is non-existent so I took it back and got a second one.

The second one was DOA. Nothing. Nada. No worky-worky. I took it back.

Thinking it might be the 5-20 I got a 3-14. The electronics worked for the most part but it would not stay focused. It's not super-easy to focus finely at night and a shot from my .308 knocked it from in focus to so blurry you couldn't make out what you were looking at after a single shot.

I figured 3 strikes you are out. A cheaper alternative is the new 4.6x42S sightmark. It is their second gen and has higher res than the previous version and has some of the cool features like wifi video. You can get one right now using their 10% off coupon at optics planet shipped for about 495 or so. I just ordered one and can report back if you are interested. Note that I had an older sightmark and loved it (for the money of course) and took a couple hogs with it.

Thanks, id like to see the report on your new sightmark.

I pre ordered the new ATN X-SIGHT 4K PRO 3-14X, I'm hoping they call by this Friday with my order. They said there's a good chance it would be the 15th of this month for shipping. As soon as I get it I'll post some results and feedback on there new scope.
I can't wait hoping it's as good as they're saying it is.
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Strange--I can see your pictures but all I see for "videos" is blank page space.

I have the 5x20 (actually will go to 5-50) X-Sight II. I also have the X-Trac and Laser Range Finder. I assembled my own external battery pack using a magazine pouch. It holds a PowerAdd 10k Mah battery perfectly. I saw too many reviews of the ATN version getting in the way of charge handle.
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I like that idea. I haven't had any trouble with the charge handle, but that may be because I've got my external pack strapped to the handguard and the cord is looped around the scope so as not to be in the way of ejecting cases.
As for the videos, I don't know, they work fine on my end, but you can see them on You tube. I've uploaded 8 clips so far. Just type in: Jerry Hughes, Vid1, ATN. Evidently there are a lot of Jerry Hughes on you tube, but typing in as just mentioned will take you right to mine.

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I use AZ Screen Recorder (on Google Play) to record the stream on my tablet. It records everything shown on the screen.

Also, you can enhance the depth of field (focus) by using the "hole filter". I keep mine on day or night. It really improves the sharpness without a big sacrifice of light during night time. On previous models, guys were buying covers and drilling a 1/2" hole in the cover. I bought my scope last year and it came with the filter. Try it, I think you'll like it.
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I am actually using the hole filter and extension tube, it does help. If you look closely at the first video you can see it.
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Forgot to mention:
Are you aware that each ammo profile you set up has its own Zero Calibration? I saw in one of the videos that you were using different ammo and recall you were having zero problems. (Don't remember if it was the same video.) You should add a profile for each ammo type you use and re-zero for that type. Save the profiles to your SD card. When you select (load) a profile for an ammo type, the zero parameters as well as the ballistics for that ammo type are loaded. In addition, instead of having "Profile 1", 2, 3, etc. you can change the name of the profile through the ATN App to something meaningful.

Man, this is making me miss mine. I haven't been out since last summer.
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I am actually using the hole filter and extension tube, it does help. If you look closely at the first video you can see it.
Ok, I wasn't paying attention. I don't use the extension tube as the front lens cover won't stretch that far without taking it out of the slot. I'm afraid I'll lose it.
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Thanks for the tip about the profiles, that's what I really need to do.
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Got a call today

My pre order for the new ATN x-sight 4x Pro 3x14 scope is shipping today.

I'll post some pics and results once I receive it and figure it out.
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Finally received my New ATN 3x14 4K day/night vision scope. Been trying to set it up today (hillbilly going hitech.....lol) should have it ready for the range tomarrow. I'll keep ya updated.
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Any update? How do you like it so far?
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So far I really like it
Just trying to learn the scope
I have a vid at 100 yards shooting at a couple of clay’s on the back board during the day, it’s sighted in spot on.
I’m going to try to download them off the sim card a post on utube
The more I get use to this scope I’ll post more results need to do a night vision and post
Looking good so far really happy with it, no issues yet

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