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Hi All,

I bought it last yr. has about 1500 rounds thru it. Last 2 times
out started to short stroke. It will fire, extract and eject, BUT
not recock the hammer or chamber the next fresh round. Fails
the one shot hold open test.

After the first time, I took it down, cleaned and lubed it, took it
out again with the same results. Never had an issue before with
it and nothing appears broken or out of position.

Now here's the best part. Took the complete bolt assembly from a buddy's Ruger AR556, put it in the S&W and it functioned
fine. Cleaned the S&W bolt, put it back in, and got same short
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Anyone run into this?
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It would seem to be a bolt issue check and make sure the Key has not loosened and replace the gas rings on the bolt they don't generally get that worn at 1500 rds but it's possible if they haven't been keep lubed, it's a cheap replacement. If the bolt hasn't been keep lubed check the bolt carrier to see if the interior is scored.
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Hi Andy,

Thanks for the input. The rings look good and staggered. Key is secured and staked. Carrier isn't scored, and bolt runs "Wet". S&W wants it back to check it out, but if I can get it going again, I'd rather not send it back.

Looks like the Ruger gas key has a smaller inlet diameter compared to S&W. Wouldn't think this would be a factor but grasping at straws. Never had a problem before with it.
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Ammunition issues come to mind. What are you shooting? Have you tried different ammo?

When you clean your rifle, you don't use those long pipe cleaners do you? I have seen those break off and stay in the gas tube.
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With a little searching, all the info you need to solve this problem is out there.

Testing and replacing gas rings.

AR-15 Maintenance - Do You Need New Gas Rings?

Troubleshooting short stroking.

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Ammunition issues come to mind. What are you shooting? Have you tried different ammo?

When you clean your rifle, you don't use those long pipe cleaners do you? I have seen those break off and stay in the gas tube.
I considered a possible ammo issue but the OP said it ran fine with a different bolt and I'm assuming it was the same ammo.
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Hi All,

Thanks for the help so far. No pipe cleaners broken off in gas tube. Used Federal ammo exclusively, but tried PMC and Fiocchi.
All 3 function well with Ruger bolt but not with S&W bolt. Gas rings pass test OK with S&W bolt.


Now, I'm thinking that something in the S&W bolt is out of specs. Since the rifle works fine with the Ruger bolt, I should replace the S&W bolt. However now the costs are involved. I
can replace the bolt at my cost or just send it in and let S&W
work on it under warranty. Somehow the rifle isn't getting enough gas to operate with the S&W bolt, but functions fine with the Ruger bolt.
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Hi Vonn,

I sure will, but at this point, really considering sending it back to S&W.
Just curious if anyone else ran into this condition. Just started out of the blue, and did all checks that you tube and internet provide.

Started looking at a new bolt assembly and found some around 70.00, but thinking why should I experiment and take on the cost of new parts when the rifle is basically new and covered under the warranty?
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I have ran into that condition but was a rifle with many more rounds than you have through yours. I know it sucks to be without the rifle but it seems that if S&W will fix the problem that may be the best route to go, hopefully S&W will pay the shipping cost.
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Hi Andy,

I talked to S&W yesterday and they want the rifle back for evaluation. I've also heard that some bolt carriers are out of spec
and need to be replaced. I first wanted to see if it was a common problem with the S&W crowd.

The strange thing in this is that it functions fine with another bolt assembly (Ruger in this case) but not with its own S&W factory bolt. Never had a problem before.

When I researched the costs of a new bolt assembly, I think I'm better off sending it in to S&W than incurring all the costs and experimenting to get it to work reliably. The rep I spoke to was very knowledgeable about the rifle series and said right off "You definitely have a gas problem. Let us take it back and see what we find."

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Could be a loose gas key on the bolt, out of spec bolt, or even gas tube. Do you notice any unusual marks inside the upper receiver? If the bolt is out of spec, there could be too much friction occurring to not allow it to cycle correctly.
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Hi Jagular,

Thanks for the input. The gas key is tight and staked. The gas
tube must be clear since the rifle will function with the Ruger bolt.
Possibly the bolt was on the limit of the specs and 1500 rounds
later, is now out. Really thinking this is a job for S&W since its under warranty. to go further on my own would be buying a new
bolt and guessing at my expense.


Just curious if anyone else ran into this situation.
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Really thinking this is a job for S&W since its under warranty. to go further on my own would be buying a new
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I think this is the way to go as it could be a combination of things.
S&W is best equipped to deal with your problem and at no cost to you.
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Thanks for all the input, guys. Will give S&W a call tomorrow.
Will let you know what happens when it comes back.
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I've run into this situation myself, but it wasn't an S&W AR. You did your due diligence and used good troubleshooting techniques. All you lack is experience interpreting the data.

noro, in a nutshell, your problem lies with the BCG. Either the rings are bad or the key leaks or both. Start by replacing the rings and don't worry about staggering gaps.

It's possible for the gas key to leak even when the gas key screws are tight. Sometimes, the mating surfaces are uneven or simply don't seal. You won't know until you actually pull the gas key off and check the carbon pattern. If there is carbon on the surfaces between gas key and carrier, there is a leak.

I had a carrier that started short stroking. The source of the problem turned out to be two fold-
1) Although the bolt passed the gas ring test, they were worn and leaking
2) Gas key was leaking. Screws were tight and there was no external signs of a gas leak. However, removing the gas key showed carbon build up between key and carrier. This is a sure sign of a leak.

It wasn't until I addressed both issues that I was able to get the carrier working again.
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I've never had this problem, but I'm glad you told us about it.

Sending it back to S&W is the right thing to do. Not only will you get it fixed for free, but S&W can then use what they find with your rifle to improve future rifles. I'm not saying they will, but at least they have the opportunity. This makes things better for all of us.

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MistWolf,

Thanks for your input. You're right in that I am inexperienced in interpreting the data. This is my first AR, and I'm new to the platform. From all I've found, the problem is in the Bolt Assembly. Not to be redundant, but the rifle functions fine with the Ruger bolt.

I could order parts and throw new ones in to experiment with,
but its not cost effective for me. For example, if I obtain a new complete bolt assembly for roughly 80.00 and it solves the problem, I still wont know which component failed or which combination of components failed. Yes I could get it back in operation much more quickly, but i'd be out 80.00 when its under warranty, and from what I understand, S&W frowns on modifications and non S&W parts.

I love the rifle and have no complaints at all with S&W. Stuff
happens and I get that. I just wanted to see if any other Sport
owners ran into this and what they did to correct it. In most cases the MP15 Sport 2 is a relatively trouble free platform.
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noro, i'm telling you that your problem is either the gas rings or the gas key. We know this because your rifle works with a good BCG.
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Mistwolf,


And I agree with you. Either the gas rings have failed or the gas key is leaking. Now neither look bad to me but what do I know?

S&W has sent a ticket today for return and the rifle is under warranty, so I'm going to let them take care of it. I did ask them
to note their findings when they get done with it and let me know
what they found. Will keep you all posted. If this was a home built AR, I'd be much more inclined to
throw parts at it, but being its a stock S&W with a warranty and a great reputation, my thinking is to
let them deal with it. I can always use my buddy's Ruger AR 556

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Hi Guys,

Just got the mp15SportII back from the factory. Bolt carrier was
replaced and rifle test fired. Havent shot it yet but just wanted to
let you know what happened.

Rifle was sent back on Aug. 3 and received Aug. 7 It arrived in the middle of their shutdown period. It was cleared to be shipped back Aug. 31, and in shipping until Sept. 10. Apparently shipping is way behind in shipping returns out, also
with the Labor Day Holiday.

Paper documentation reported that bolt was replaced. In looking at it, the bolt carrier was new, but other bolt parts looked like the originals. Bolt carrier seems to have different staking. The punch marks are on the side rather than the top of the gas key screws. Apparently the gas key was the problem, and they replaced the whole bolt carrier assembly.

I'll try to get it out this weekend, but I don't think I'll have any
problems. As Mistwolf said, the problem was in the gas key or gas rings. S&W didn't share a lot of info on the repair, and that's OK as long as it works.

It was tough to send it back and wait, but I think I saved myself a lot of aggravation in replacing parts on my own at my expense, instead of letting S&W fix it. They appeared to do a good job, but we'll see when it goes to the range.
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Glad to see it's likely squared away. With the constant sales these days of bolts and bcgs, it'd be a good idea to have a spare.
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Thanks for coming back and posting the results on the factory repair. Let us know how it shoots. Enjoy!
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Great news!

One benefit of it being 100% S&W, is that whatever goes wrong, it's their problem. Here, YOU fix it.
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Hi Guys,

Wish I could share more in what was done, but the papers enclosed said "replace bolt" The one paper was a parts list with
part nos, description, repair, replace. I would assume the gunsmith was supposed to circle or highlight what he did. No
marks at all.

It lists the bolt as bolt carrier assembly. Dose this mean the whole unit, or just the bolt carrier? Firing pin, extractor, pins,
bolt head are not listed as individual parts.

In looking at the bolt carrier, the staking of the gas key screws is different than the original. Looks like they are staking them differently now. on the side of the screws rather than the top.

The rifle was definitely test fired. The bore was very dirty, as the bolt. I had thought that S&W would have provided more info as to what happened or what was causing the problems I ran into. Nope that was it - "replace bolt"


In my opinion, the problem was in the gas key. While it was tight, maybe it was cracked underneath, or the bolt carrier itself was cracked and not seen with the gas key in place. Either way the gas was leaking, causing the short stroke condition. So I guess we'll never know exactly why the rifle
was malfunctioning.

All I can say is that the rifle went back to the factory, was repaired, and returned in firing condition at no cost at all to me.
As I said many times, I could have played with it, threw parts at it, got it to work at my cost. Complete bolts are running
$80 - $100 when the factory will fix it for free IF a defect is found. They apparently found it. S&W did their job, and I'm a very happy customer.

Will come back and report the function once I get out with it.
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Hi Guys,

Went forward to find out what exactly was wrong. S&W totally investigated this repair and found out one of the gas key screws cracked and sheared off in the bolt carrier, resulting is a gas leak as MISTWOLF figured. The complete bolt was replaced (carrier, head, extractor, rings, pins etc)


Now the paperwork doesn't say any of this but the company records do. I don't have any problems but wanted to know exactly what was wrong. The rifle fired fine this weekend with no problems in 140 rounds. Further, the rep that I talked to (Paul) knew the platform and basically said that this was a fluke. Its only happened in roughly 600,000 cases.
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Further, the rep that I talked to (Paul) knew the platform and basically said that this was a fluke. Its only happened in roughly 600,000 cases.
Not sure that I agree that something happening 600,000 times is a fluke! Especially if he is only speaking to BCGs in S&W products...
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Cyphertext,

Don't know any other way to explain it. Stuff happens and 1 bad
screw doesn't affect me and S&W. They checked it, and repaired it with no questions asked. I just got the 1 in 600,000 bad bolt. Maybe I didn't explain it clearly. 1 bad bolt in roughly 600,000.

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Don't know any other way to explain it. Stuff happens and 1 bad
screw doesn't affect me and S&W. They checked it, and repaired it with no questions asked. I just got the 1 in 600,000 bad bolt. Maybe I didn't explain it clearly. 1 bad bolt in roughly 600,000.
Ahhh... one in 600,000 cases... that makes a huge difference!
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Hi Guys,

Just to say, my rifle's function is perfect. S. Gonzales did an excellent job in repairing it. Should you get one that he reworked, be advised, this guy is an excellent gunsmith and very thorough. Kudos to Mr. Gonzales and S&W,
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