Short-barreled rifle question

Rastoff · #51 05-17-2020, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ladder13

Agreed, but it is what it is. I also have an AR pistol. I carry the original papers showing it is a pistol with that one too, less they think I “manufactured”

an SBR.

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Originally Posted by vipermd

I carry copies of form 3's for demo NFA items. If someone would ask, I have it, end of story, does not matter who is asking, since it is there in Black & White. Proof of an NFA item, ( Form 3 or 4 ) must be with you in all states. Be Safe.

As long as we're talking about SBRs and the legalities associated with that....

There's something that has bothered me for some time. Why get an SBR at all? Or an AR pistol for that matter? I mean, if it requires all this paperwork that you have to carry with you, what's the point? Is it just to say that you have one?

Unless you're clearing a house, which no civilian does regularly, I just don't see an advantage. They're not superior to a rifle in function or ballistics. They're actually more challenging to handle. Due to the short gas system, they're not even as reliable as a regular rifle.

So, why put up with the hassle to have one?

RoyS · #52 05-17-2020, 03:01 PM

This is an interesting thread with some good humor and some good advice too.

If you guys would indulge me, I will share my tuppence worth.

I personally like the idea of an SBR but don't like the legal hassle or restrictions. I travel a lot (by car) and often find myself in other states for extended periods, so owning and traveling or crossing state lines with an SBR was just a non starter for me.

So I gave this a lot of thought and eventually went with a Robinson XCR 'pistol' in 300blk. Love, love, love it. It gives me all that I want in such a gun but without the legal hassles. And I have to give a shout out to Robinson, hands down the very best customer service I have ever experienced from a firearms manufacture.

Cheerio,

Roy

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ISCS Yoda · #53 05-17-2020, 03:03 PM

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You forgot the really crazy part. It wasn't always that way. The wallet was, at one time, a factory option for the High Standard derringer. No telling how many got sold back in the day. ATF ignored it for decades.

Then one fine day, the Technical Branch, inexplicably, simply changed its mind. One day an ATF Letter says this and that is legal. Some time later another ATF letter, that may or may not even reference or rescind the first letter and say the same thing is illegal! It's about as crazy and as risky as tap dancing in a minefield.

Agreed. It IS frightening. Also, when Galco was making those "wallets" it never occurred to them that they were NFA restricted. I have had mine for so many years that when I first heard about the AOW rule I scoffed, said it was not possible. Oops. So we added a serial number to the leather and I got a tax stamp. Done and done.

Bob L · #54 05-17-2020, 03:14 PM

You might try putting quote marks around the search term, like "SBR". It doesn't eliminate everythoing but gennerally it will cut down on the results, maybe!

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Originally Posted by Wildman101010

Getting to the point Google is just totally useless now because there’s so much information out there, that when you punch in keywords you need to research, up pops 1 million other subjects not related to your question!!! Drives me insane it does.

What good is a search engine that produces 200,000 results?

Anyway, now that I’ve got THAT off my chest, what are the laws concerning a separated SBR? Let’s say I get drunk one night and I can’t see my hand in front of my face and I accidentally put my smith lower on my PSA 7 inch pistol barrel.

I’m running down the road and I get pulled over by cop. Proceeding now with the hypothetical situation that its not registered and there’s no stamp, in other words it’s illegal, what if you hurriedly separated it and put the barrel on one seat and the lower on the other? Are there any kind of laws concerning assembled versus disassembled, and if so, is there a mandated certain distance they have to be from each other???

What if the barrel is under the front seat and the lower is in the trunk? I can’t find an answer to that question guys! Or gals..

Nedroe · #55 05-17-2020, 04:58 PM

to avoid an issue with short uppers is to own an M-16. Then you can as many short uppers as you like.

Ned