Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Rifles and Shotguns > Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles
GenBiz

Notices

Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles Dedicated to the Smith & Wesson M&P-15 Rifles


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-20-2022, 12:26 PM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope

What brand/model and power of optical scopes would you recommend for marksmanship and SHTF for the M&P Sport ii?

Thanks in advance.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-20-2022, 04:37 PM
rockquarry rockquarry is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,116
Likes: 4
Liked 5,861 Times in 2,754 Posts
Default

Many won't be in agreement with me, but I'd get a good quality scope like a Leupold with a simple crosshair/ duplex non-illuminating reticle - nothing that requires batteries. A magnification of 4X,6X, or even a variable of 3X-9X will be adequate for most shooting to ranges of 200 - 300 yards, the variable a bit farther.

Leupold makes models specifically for ARs that meet such requirements. Other companies probably do as well. Just don't skimp on value. Lesser scopes have little or no resale value and are more prone to failure. Gadgetry scopes with cluttered reticles serve little real purpose. Get a good simple scope that you won't outgrow. You don't want to buy a "bargain" scope and later wish you had purchased something better to begin with.

Last edited by rockquarry; 04-20-2022 at 04:39 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 04-20-2022, 05:13 PM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Thanks. Can you suggest a couple of specific Leupold models?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 04-20-2022, 06:23 PM
rockquarry rockquarry is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,116
Likes: 4
Liked 5,861 Times in 2,754 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by giants1 View Post
Thanks. Can you suggest a couple of specific Leupold models?
I bought three new Colt ARs about six or eight years ago. A 6920 I equipped with a Mark AR Mod 1, 3-9x40mm with a duplex reticle. On an Expanse I put Mark AR Mod 1, 1-4x20mm, also with a duplex reticle. Good scopes with very repeatable adjustments. Whether or not these are still available, I don't know. If they are not, there is probably something comparable. Look at the Leupold website.

I know you're interested in scopes, but my third AR is the A4 version with a fixed stock and 20" barrel. I shoot it with the factory aperture sight. To 100 yards, this will work as well as a low powered scope if you're eyes are decent. Good luck-
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-20-2022, 07:09 PM
Octagun's Avatar
Octagun Octagun is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Merritt Island FL
Posts: 175
Likes: 225
Liked 537 Times in 103 Posts
Default

The Trijicon VCOGs are pretty bomb proof although a bit heavy. This is a 1-8x I use on a 5.56/300 SBR. It works very well.

Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope-f15a7658-6a77-4636-8e69-1fd1af0e4d5b-jpg
Attached Images
File Type: jpg F15A7658-6A77-4636-8E69-1FD1AF0E4D5B.jpg (39.7 KB, 192 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 04-20-2022, 07:19 PM
Eric300's Avatar
Eric300 Eric300 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Whitmore Lake, Michigan
Posts: 1,626
Likes: 1,423
Liked 5,243 Times in 1,189 Posts
Default

If you don't want to spend a ton of money, your best bang for the buck would be the Primary Arms SLx 1-6 x 24 FFP ACCS-Raptor. Great affordable optic for the AR. Lots of usable features, very decent glass, and built tough. The ACSS reticle is fantastic. You should do yourself a favor and at least do some research on it.

Primary Arms SLx 1-6x24mm FFP Rifle Scope - Illuminated ACSS-RAPTOR-5.56/.308
__________________
*NO QUARTER GIVEN*
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-20-2022, 10:59 PM
Oldsalt66 Oldsalt66 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 347
Likes: 382
Liked 522 Times in 191 Posts
Default

Iíd recommend a low power variable optic of from 1-4x through 1-8x on a 30mm tube.

For SHTF you should avoid Chinese products in favor of durability.

Trijicon, Steiner, Leupold, Non Chinese Vortex models, plenty to choose from.

Last edited by Oldsalt66; 04-20-2022 at 11:02 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-21-2022, 01:35 AM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Thanks, everyone.

Oldsalt66, why do you recommend a low-power optic and 30mm?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-21-2022, 02:31 AM
Fishinfool's Avatar
Fishinfool Fishinfool is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central PA
Posts: 4,075
Likes: 6,627
Liked 9,618 Times in 2,653 Posts
Default

A low power variable power scope on an AR-15 is never a bad choice. Since you want an all around target / self defense optic, I would recommend a 1x6 or 1x8 variable power scope, as is commonly used in 3 gun matches.

Most have a simple intuitive and uncluttered combat reticle that works well at distance at maximum magnification, yet can be used up close and fast with both eyes open at 1x, like a red dot sight. Can't do that with a scope that starts with a magnification over 1x. Reticles are usually illuminated and etched, which means you still have a normal black reticle even if battery power goes south. Kind of combines the best of both world between a scope and a red dot sight.

Price wise, these scopes are very popular, and available from dirt cheap to big bucks. Like most optics, avoid the cheap stuff, and the most expensive is not really needed. I mounted a Vortex 1x6 Strike Eagle (about $3-350 street price) on one of mine, and am happy with it.

Another option might be a low / mid power variable with a seperate red dot attached for quick, close shots. I attached a pic of one of my AR's to illustrate. Its a Burris 2x7 with a Burris Fast Fire dot attached. Also a good working system.

Couple other notes. Yes, Leopold is good stuff, American made, and never a bad choice. But most quality optics these days come from overseas. If you stick to brands that are well known and regarded, like Burris, Nikon, Vortex, Zeiss, SIG, ect., and avoid the cheapest models, you are solid. Pay attention to warranty and quality of service. Right now, Leupold and Vortex probably have about the best in the industry.

I would also avoid FFP reticles for all around use. The reticle will appear to change size as power is increased, tending to leave you with a small, hard to see reticle at low power. They are more appropriate for long range, precision shooting.

Larry

Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope-dsc_0004-copy-jpg
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC_0004 - Copy.jpg (53.4 KB, 165 views)

Last edited by Fishinfool; 04-23-2022 at 07:54 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 04-21-2022, 02:31 PM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Thanks.

My M&P 15 Sport ii has an A2 front iron sight. What is the best height for scope mount kit to get, e.g. 1" or 1.2" tall?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-21-2022, 03:34 PM
lrb1200's Avatar
lrb1200 lrb1200 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago Suburbs
Posts: 525
Likes: 197
Liked 2,087 Times in 357 Posts
Default

Well op

Not going to get into you bought into a
cheap seats S&W AR,

What I will tell you is, I just changed out a ten year old
CR2032 3V battery in a Leupold illuminated on a Colt I have,
that was still operating flawlessly.

Last edited by lrb1200; 04-21-2022 at 03:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-22-2022, 06:34 PM
Oldsalt66 Oldsalt66 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 347
Likes: 382
Liked 522 Times in 191 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by giants1 View Post
Thanks, everyone.

Oldsalt66, why do you recommend a low-power optic and 30mm?
I recommend a 1-4x variable for true SHTF use because a 1X optic is the best option for close quarter use such as home defense and such.

4x allows you to reliably reach out to 3-400 yards if necessary.

An optic with a true daylight bright illuminated reticle is also a plus, keeping in mind that the batteries have storage capacities of more than ten years.

Low power optics are brighter, lighter, and considering scopes of similar quality, less expensive than 1-6, 1-8, and even the 1-10x.

Donít be fooled by cheap Chinese variable power scopes that offer higher magnification, youíll be able to see much better and shoot more accurately with a 1-4 Steiner Px4i than with a 1-8x Vortex Strike Eagle.

And scopes like Steiner, Meopta, Trijicon, etc. are much more durable internally than inexpensive Chinese optics with greater magnification.

30mm tubes with their 24mm objective lense collect more light than do 1Ē scopes and they offer more elevation adjustment as well.

Thatís my story and Iím sticking to it.

I have a couple of these Steiner P4xi scopes with German Schott Glass from the Carl Zeiss Factory and have found them to be excellent.

If you shop around you can find them for $629.

I prefer the version 1 with the P3TR reticle, rather than the V2 with the diamond style, but others feel the opposite.




Last edited by Oldsalt66; 04-22-2022 at 06:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #13  
Old 04-22-2022, 06:39 PM
Bald1's Avatar
Bald1 Bald1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: NY
Posts: 671
Likes: 481
Liked 1,213 Times in 424 Posts
Default

Vortex are hard to beat and incredible warranty. Don’t under estimate the life of a CR battery. And Crimson Trace makes a $60 red dot u can’t beat. Comes with riser or u can flush mount. My PC9 loves it
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-22-2022, 06:41 PM
Eric300's Avatar
Eric300 Eric300 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Whitmore Lake, Michigan
Posts: 1,626
Likes: 1,423
Liked 5,243 Times in 1,189 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishinfool View Post
I would also avoid FFP reticles for all around use. The reticle does not change size as power is increased, tending to leave you with a small, hard to see reticle at low power. They are more appropriate for long range, precision shooting.

Larry
A minor correction regarding FFP (First Focal Plane) scopes. The reticle DOES in fact get larger/smaller as magnification increases/decreases. On SFP (Second Focal Plane) scopes, the reticle remains a constant when magnification is increased/decreased.
__________________
*NO QUARTER GIVEN*
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-22-2022, 06:56 PM
Oldsalt66 Oldsalt66 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 347
Likes: 382
Liked 522 Times in 191 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Octagun View Post
The Trijicon VCOGs are pretty bomb proof although a bit heavy. This is a 1-8x I use on a 5.56/300 SBR. It works very well.

Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope-f15a7658-6a77-4636-8e69-1fd1af0e4d5b-jpg
Thatís a really nice firearm and scope, but respectfully, your optic is mounted incorrectly.

It should be moved back until the entire scope mount is sitting only on the top rail of the upper receiver, and not mounted across the gap on both the receiver rail and front hand guard rail.

Last edited by Oldsalt66; 04-22-2022 at 06:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-22-2022, 07:08 PM
Tu_S Tu_S is online now
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 211
Likes: 163
Liked 221 Times in 76 Posts
Default

My current choice for the high end is the Trijicon Credo 1-6x24 LVPO, although I pickup a cheap Victoptics S6 to throw on the Hi-Point/High Tower bullpup conversion for less than 1/10th the price of the Credo and have been impressed by the thing so far.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #17  
Old 04-22-2022, 10:47 PM
bman940 bman940 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: N. Texas
Posts: 93
Likes: 25
Liked 29 Times in 25 Posts
Default

I have 3 of the Meopta Optika6 1-6x24 SFP RD scopes and couldn't be happier. My son and I use them on our competition carbines and I recent'y put one on a 22LR AR. Great Euro glass and quality.

There is an excellent youtube video, just look up Meopta Optika6 1-6x24 .

Last edited by bman940; 04-22-2022 at 10:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #18  
Old 04-23-2022, 08:00 AM
Fishinfool's Avatar
Fishinfool Fishinfool is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central PA
Posts: 4,075
Likes: 6,627
Liked 9,618 Times in 2,653 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric300 View Post
A minor correction regarding FFP (First Focal Plane) scopes. The reticle DOES in fact get larger/smaller as magnification increases/decreases. On SFP (Second Focal Plane) scopes, the reticle remains a constant when magnification is increased/decreased.
You are correct. Brain fart on my end. Corrected my post. Point being a FFP reticle can be hard to see at low magnification.

Larry

Last edited by Fishinfool; 04-23-2022 at 08:01 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-07-2022, 03:18 AM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Thanks, everyone, for your thoughtful comments.

I'm inclined to get a new PSA dedicated upper that takes scope mounts, probably this:

PSA 16" mid-length 5.56 NATO 1:7 Nitride 13.5" Lightweight M-LOK Upper with Nickel Boron BCG & CH. First photo, below, and link:

Just a moment...

and this Leupold (thanks to Larry's comment, below, I changed this scope to one that might work on my M&P 15 Sport ii in 5.56 NATO):

VX-Freedom 2-7x33 Hunt-Plex | Leupold

What are your thoughts, pros and cons, of this combination?

For 1" scope mounts, is a pair better or would this cantilever (second photo, below) be better, or too high (or tall) for the scope?




If so, what brand and height (I think they come in low, medium, and tall) of scope mounts would you recommend, particularly if I can use it on my M&P 15 Sport ii with a fixed A2 front sight?

Finally, I plan to use it for target practice at the range and transport it in a hard case, ie not hunting. So do I need lens caps, or would a neoprene cover suffice? If you recommend lens caps, what brand/models do you suggest? The Leupold 59035 and 59055 apparently fit, but they had mediocre reviews and seem expensive.

And what brand/model and height of bipod (M-Lok?) would you recommend for an M4 in 5.56 with 30 round size mags (actually 10/30 for California compliance)?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg PSA.jpg (56.6 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg Monstrum.jpg (79.4 KB, 7 views)

Last edited by giants1; 05-07-2022 at 12:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-07-2022, 06:25 AM
Fishinfool's Avatar
Fishinfool Fishinfool is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central PA
Posts: 4,075
Likes: 6,627
Liked 9,618 Times in 2,653 Posts
Default

The scope you mention is, I believe, a .22 rimfire optic. It is not designed (reticle drop points, parallax) for a centerfire rifle. A "Freedom" scope would be fine, just not the .22 rimfire version. The Leupold neoprene scope cover should work fine for your use. Butler Creek see thru - flip open covers work as well.

I have built several AR's using PSA components, and have no issues with them. The quality is as good as any name brand mid priced AR.

Question is, why replace your upper that came with your Sport AR??

Any non "airsoft" quality cantilever mount from a known name manufacturer will give you proper height. Vortex or Burris come to mind.

For shooting from the bench, a 6 to 9 inch bipod works well. I like Harris, though MagPul makes a popular line as well.

Larry

Last edited by Fishinfool; 05-07-2022 at 06:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-07-2022, 07:39 AM
rockquarry rockquarry is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,116
Likes: 4
Liked 5,861 Times in 2,754 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishinfool View Post
The scope you mention is, I believe, a .22 rimfire optic. It is not designed (reticle drop points, parallax) for a centerfire rifle. A "Freedom" scope would be fine, just not the .22 rimfire version. The Leupold neoprene scope cover should work fine for your use. Butler Creek see thru - flip open covers work as well.

I have built several AR's using PSA components, and have no issues with them. The quality is as good as any name brand mid priced AR.

Question is, why replace your upper that came with your Sport AR??

Any non "airsoft" quality cantilever mount from a known name manufacturer will give you proper height. Vortex or Burris come to mind.

For shooting from the bench, a 6 to 9 inch bipod works well. I like Harris, though MagPul makes a popular line as well.

Larry
Bipods are popular, but if you have much interest in accuracy shooting from the bench, you won't get the best groups that you and your rifle are capable of by using an attached bipod. Groups will be okay, adequate for many, but a solid and simple heavy front pedestal rest, like a Hart with a leather Protektor front bag and leather Protektor rear bunny bag will work much better.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #22  
Old 05-07-2022, 11:29 AM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Larry wrote, "...Question is, why replace your upper that came with your Sport AR?..."

Thanks.

I have a fixed A2 front sight on my M&P 15 Sport ii,

like this:

Just a moment...



but I upgraded to a MagPul M-Lok freefloating hand guard.

On 4/21/22 at 12:34 PM LRB1200 implied that a scope wouldn't work. I'd rather not buy a new upper, instead mounting the optic on the Sport ii.

And thanks for pointing out that the scope is only for rimfire; I'm going to adjust the question above to reflect this scope:

VX-Freedom 2-7x33 Hunt-Plex | Leupold

What do you think about that scope for my M&P 15 Sport ii in 5.56 NATO?

Last edited by giants1; 05-07-2022 at 12:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-07-2022, 12:31 PM
dave1918a2's Avatar
dave1918a2 dave1918a2 is offline
US Veteran
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Black Hills of SD
Posts: 1,924
Likes: 1,421
Liked 2,813 Times in 1,160 Posts
Default

Two weeks ago I was in the local gun store and the counter guy was unboxing some high end Hawke scope. Retail 1200+. Took a look at it and through it. Just too darn busy in there. Have to read the manual and then probably have to carry it with Me. Never seen so much stuff inside before. Nice optics, but I will stick with My 2X8 and 1.5X6 Leupolds.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-10-2022, 02:46 AM
Fishinfool's Avatar
Fishinfool Fishinfool is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central PA
Posts: 4,075
Likes: 6,627
Liked 9,618 Times in 2,653 Posts
Default

OP - That 2x7 Leupold will work fine.

With the tall A-2 front sight / gas block, you may see a slight blur at low magnification in the lower of your scope, that disappears as magnification increases. Usually not a problem for most shooters. If it does bother you, it is a lot cheaper to just have the front sight replaced with a low profile gas block - maybe $100 for a gunsmith to do it, including the price of the gas block.

I attached a picture of my old Bushmaster, with the A-2 front sight, and a 2x7 scope. It works fine. I also attached a pic of a DPMS .308 with a low profile gas block to show what I am talking about.

Larry
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC_0007.jpg (106.3 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg 20200517_131011.jpg (145.3 KB, 19 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #25  
Old 05-10-2022, 03:28 AM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Thanks, Larry.

I'm going to order that Leupold 2-7x and the offset cantilever scope mount.

I noticed that your Bushmaster has a red dot optic on top. At the risk of showing that I'm a total newbie, what's the advantage of having a red dot in addition to a glass optics scope (not sure of the correct term)?

You have great looking guns, but because I own a Dutch Shepherd, I like your German Shepherd more!

Last edited by giants1; 05-10-2022 at 03:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 05-10-2022, 02:52 PM
Fishinfool's Avatar
Fishinfool Fishinfool is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central PA
Posts: 4,075
Likes: 6,627
Liked 9,618 Times in 2,653 Posts
Default

I mounted that red dot as a back up sight, and also for quick, close range shooting with both eyes open. Cant really shoot both eyes open with a magnified scope. Thanks for the compliment about Jake. Unfortunately, he passed a couple years ago. He was a good dog.

Larry
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-12-2022, 12:04 PM
jimbo728's Avatar
jimbo728 jimbo728 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,803
Likes: 8,245
Liked 3,406 Times in 1,319 Posts
Default

Nikon P223 works great for me. Excellent scope!
Jim
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #28  
Old 05-12-2022, 12:46 PM
Octagun's Avatar
Octagun Octagun is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Merritt Island FL
Posts: 175
Likes: 225
Liked 537 Times in 103 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsalt66 View Post
Thatís a really nice firearm and scope, but respectfully, your optic is mounted incorrectly.

It should be moved back until the entire scope mount is sitting only on the top rail of the upper receiver, and not mounted across the gap on both the receiver rail and front hand guard rail.
Thank you for that observation. I will look into readdressing that mounting location, especially if accuracy issues are encountered.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 05-12-2022, 01:10 PM
Charlie Foxtrott Charlie Foxtrott is online now
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 568
Liked 1,537 Times in 558 Posts
Default Get A Schmidt and Bender Short dot.

Buy once, cry once. If your pockets are not that deep, go with the Trijicon.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-15-2022, 09:43 PM
giants1 giants1 is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 341
Liked 71 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Another newbie question for all of you:

If I change a scope and its mount rings from one gun to another, e.g. AR15 to AK47, how likely it is that I need to adjust the interface between the scope and its mount rings?
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 06-14-2022, 12:59 AM
M5GUY M5GUY is offline
Member
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Curious, did you end up getting the PSA upper? I ordered the same upper for my Volunteer XV and was wondering how it worked out for you...

I didn't want to mess with a barrel that has bad reviews so figured I would go with the PSA. Maybe I'll use the S&W upper on a different lower eventually
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 06-14-2022, 05:28 AM
BigBelle BigBelle is offline
Banned SCAMMER !!! < SCAMMER < SCAMMER < SCAMMER < SCAMMER < SCAMMER < SCAMMER < SCAMMER
SCAMMER < SCAMMER
SCAMMER < SCAMMER
SCAMMER < SCAMMER
SCAMMER < SCAMMER
Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope Need Your Help with Selecting Optical Scope  
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Arizona
Posts: 109
Likes: 91
Liked 118 Times in 54 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by giants1 View Post
Thanks. Can you suggest a couple of specific Leupold models?
By a Leupold Mark 5HD 7-35x56 PR2 and thanks me later.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Optical illusion oldbrownhat The Lounge 14 04-14-2022 04:29 PM
Selecting first S&W EO1986 S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 16 02-16-2015 12:02 PM
Need help selecting a GPS msinc The Lounge 43 05-08-2014 03:52 PM
Need help in selecting K-22 Louie S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 4 03-11-2012 07:24 PM
Optical Illusion, or...... Nedroe S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 3 04-24-2011 09:16 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:50 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)