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Looking for info on optic mount
Would be interested in any info or advice someone might have regarrding an optic mount that would tilt the optic over to the left so that I can use non-dominant, left, eye to use the sights, and if any such optic mount exists, if the M&P AR15 would be an appropriate rifle, preferably carbine length, that might work well with that type of mount, if it exists. Already have familiarity with M16/AR15 manual of arms from USMC service, so if that would be a possibility, that would be great.
I installed a Holosun on my M&P pistol and that works out very good for using non-dominant left eye, so thinking if I can find a mount that does what I need, would like to get another Holosun for the long gun..
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You shouldn’t need an offset mount with an optic, even being cross eye dominant. Red or green dot optics should be used with both eyes open. You should look at and focus on the target, then superimpose the dot on the target.
I’ve struggled with being cross eyed all my life. Taught many people with the same problem, more then several that were ladies with the same issue.
Binocular vision (both eyes open) is the best way to shoot for either open sights or optics. However most people are to lazy to put inthe work to do it.
Uncle sugar “taught” me how shoot back in the early 1970’s. I knew how to do it already of course. One didn’t argue with the cadre back then, first try with the M-16 was a bolo. But the had made me shoot off the right shoulder, right eye dominant. I changed to left shoulder, left eye and fired Expert the rest of my hitch with the 1911 and M-16.
I was in my late 40’s and switched to, 2 eyed shooting. It took a lot of work, but it can be done.
And no, idk of any offset mounts being made for your issue.
Regards, Rick Gibbs
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10-26-2022, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rlg#17
You shouldn’t need an offset mount with an optic, even being cross eye dominant. Red or green dot optics should be used with both eyes open. You should look at and focus on the target, then superimpose the dot on the target.
I’ve struggled with being cross eyed all my life. Taught many people with the same problem, more then several that were ladies with the same issue.
Binocular vision (both eyes open) is the best way to shoot for either open sights or optics. However most people are to lazy to put inthe work to do it.
Uncle sugar “taught” me how shoot back in the early 1970’s. I knew how to do it already of course. One didn’t argue with the cadre back then, first try with the M-16 was a bolo. But the had made me shoot off the right shoulder, right eye dominant. I changed to left shoulder, left eye and fired Expert the rest of my hitch with the 1911 and M-16.
I was in my late 40’s and switched to, 2 eyed shooting. It took a lot of work, but it can be done.
And no, idk of any offset mounts being made for your issue.
Regards, Rick Gibbs
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I too am cross dominant. Dad made me try eye patches and other stuff. I am also a bit cross eyed, esophoria, so both eyes open causes me two views....we were out hunting one day and I pulled up right handed, switched to the left to kill the rabbit and have been shooting from the left shoulder since. I'd like to learn what you did to shoot with both eyes open.
I just bought a red dot for my shotgun, so I am interested to see how that works.
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The folks I dealt with that were cross dominant generally learned to shoot long guns from their "other" side to use their dominant eye. If you're talking about a red dot type of optic, that might-or might not-work from your usual gun hand side if you keep both eyes open
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With a long gun you really have no choice but to put it on the other shoulder. Anything else is a very poor compromise.
A few years ago, prior to my cataract surgery, my right eye had become bad enough that I could no longer use it for shooting. I learned to shoot cross-dominant using my left eye. No problem with the handguns, but rifles I had to shoot left handed. I do a lot of support side training, so the learning curve was a little less steep, and I never got to the same level of performance, but it worked.
Of course, once I had cataract surgery, I had to learn to shoot same side dominant all over again. It took a lot of training to stop bringing the gun up to my left eye...
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As I understand your post, you are right handed and cross eye dominant. If you don't want to transition to LH.
Mount the RDO (Holosun or whatever you prefer) as normal. Shoot using target focus and impose the dot/circle-dot on the target with both eyes open. Practice this at various yardages and trust your brain to figure it out. It will take some time if you are a one eye shooter, but I think you will see satisfactory results if you stick with it and practice.
I do not believe an offset RDO mount is the solution, unless you want to have a LPVO scope mounted on top.
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