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Old 06-27-2010, 11:46 PM
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This is your first time out with the sigma?

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Just reached the 750 round mark Yesterday. My SW9VE remains accurate and reliable. However....

I think I experienced a possible double feed attempt as my Sigma jammed a few times. Wasn't a stove pipe. Research I've done tonight tells me maybe a weak magazine spring? I have not cleaned my magazines at all. Should I give them a good cleaning? Hoppes 9 solvent? Should I lube them? Also want to add this didn't happen consistantly. Last couple of mags I put through were fine. Been using the same ammo. Rem UMC 115 Gr Metal Case Mega Pack. What could be the problem?

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Just reached the 750 round mark Yesterday. My SW9VE remains accurate and reliable. However....

I think I experienced a possible double feed attempt as my Sigma jammed a few times. Wasn't a stove pipe. Research I've done tonight tells me maybe a weak magazine spring? I have not cleaned my magazines at all. Should I give them a good cleaning? Hoppes 9 solvent? Should I lube them? Also want to add this didn't happen consistantly. Last couple of mags I put through were fine. Been using the same ammo. Rem UMC 115 Gr Metal Case Mega Pack. What could be the problem?

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Ammo, maybe.
Cleaning magazines, maybe.
I clean magazines if I suspect a problem, or notice any accumulation of dirt or lint. Hoppes or any good quality cleaner at hand. Wipe dry and apply a light coat of silicone or dry lube.

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Bought a 9VE about 6 weeks ago. So far I like it a lot; have just short of 200 rounds of my handloads through it, 1 failure to feed on 7th round (about round 95) from slide to rear. No apparent cause, and I am attributing it to break-in. I hope that is a real anomaly, because I am getting rather fond of this gun. For a plastic gun, anyway,

Tried something of an experiment with it today. I have a pair of mechanics' gloves that I use with the AR in cold weather. I tried them with the Sigma today--very carefully. If I insert my finger in the trigger guard they take up all the slack but no more. The Sigma fits me so well that I still have good feel with the gloves. Temp was about 35 degrees, spitting rain/snow, and windy. I shot it on a paper plate target at 15 yards, slow fire, and got a decent 5 shot group. Then went to 7 yards, singles from low ready, focussing on the one white dot left on the front sight. No timer, but running about 2.0 seconds. Group ok, but loose. Repeated but with focus on good sight picture, and for the 5 shot group got a teacup sized group.

This with the dreaded "heavy" Sigma pull. I weighed it at 11.5# when I got the gun and it was the same when I reweighed it tonight. It's smoother, and feels like a good DA revolver. (NOT like an old Colt DA!)

I will have to do some more work with the Sigma when it gets really cold. I've shot revolvers in 30 below, so I have some baseline experience here. The the last thing you want at those temperatures is a light pull; which is why I've never tried a 1911 under those conditions.

The "heavy pull" of the Sigma, on the other hand, really worked well as a safety measure, and sure doesn't affect accuracy. Some people think that a good, smooth, somewhat heavy DA pull is preferable, and I am inclined to think they're right. I spent time trying to shoot a Glock 17 and SIG 220 (DA/SA and DAO) well, and never came close to what this gun can do.

Not bad for a cheap blaster. 800 rounds to go until it's off probation.
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Bat Guano,

Great to hear you are happy with your Sigma. Just gave mine a good cleaning today. Might be back at the range this weekend.

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Sounds like you had fun!

I wouldn't worry about the cold temps: While some guns boast of shooting in a sandbox or under water, the sigma can shoot in outer space! LOL!
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Excellent! You have no idea how relieved I am to hear this.
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My Sigma is 4 weeks old. I've been to the range three times and about 150 rounds (I'm new to this, and I seem to get worse if I shoot too much).
So far the only problems have been me, the gun has been flawless.
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I put round number 1000 through my Sigma a couple of days ago. The trigger feels great, the pistol functions perfectly, and I've become quite accurate with it. I had an issue with a magazine a short time ago, but a replacement from S&W solved that problem. Definitely happy that I decided on the Sigma.
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I have the SW9VE and I couldn't be happier. I also have a glock 17 and to be honest, my S & W feels better and shoots just as good as my glock. I use my S&W for my carry gun. Great gun.
I have both a SW9VE and a Glock 17. I have had both for years. I shoot better with the Glock. The SW9VE Shoots a noticeably bigger pattern than the Glock does. But the SW9VE is the better bargain for the price and is a great value.
My SW9VE has always performed flawlessly.
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What do you all know about Limp Wristing a Semi Auto that causes jamming? I'm told this is possibly the problem I had the other day. First time it's happend. Your thoughts...
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What do you all know about Limp Wristing a Semi Auto that causes jamming? I'm told this is possibly the problem I had the other day. First time it's happend. Your thoughts...
Its pretty normal with Autos. I have tried with my Sigma and haven't been able to do it.
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Its pretty normal with Autos. I have tried with my Sigma and haven't been able to do it.
This was my second trip to this particular range. I noticed they want your target taped below a certain line. Lower than what I'm used to, and the norm. So me aiming lower than I usually do might have caused limp wristing my Sigma? Didn't consistantly jam. My buddy told maybe I was limp wristing. Never thought of this. He also mentioned the push and pull method with a handgun.
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I was taught how to shoot in 1955 by my Southeast Missouri Dad. He thought it important I know how to go get what I eat. Drafted in 1969 and sent to Vietnam I liked the Army so much I stayed and retired. Needless to say, I like guns and feel everyone, (Law abiding) in America should be field tested, but that's just me! I have had lots of guns over the years. This Sigma 9E has been the one gun that has amazed me. It just does what a gun is supposed to do. I had the trigger worked on because my wife has arthritis and working the slide at practice is hard for her. Want a good 9mil that works? Get this gun.
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I'm with LeeJack.

The gun and shooter just need practice to learn how to get along with each other. I'm still getting acquainted with mine.

Any mechanical problems can be taken care of by the factory. My 9VE got a better trigger assembly, a new retractor and a polished ramp and behaves well. I did a little trigger work to reduce the pull. Maybe two pounds less.

I think its a good-looking and safe weapon.
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I know this is a really old thread. Anyway...

I've never had a problem with the slide not staying open after the last round. I've got about 1000 rounds through my SW9VE. I use what Wally World has to sell: Federal Bulk and WWB.

I personally have had one stovepipe: I limp wristed it. I've introduced friends and coworkers to guns with my Sigma and, typically, the women tend to hold them too loosely and the cycling doesn't function as it should, resulting in a stovepipe. I'm fairly confident, then, that a loose grip causes the stovepipes. I heard somewhere that semi-autos are often held too loosely, even by experienced shooters, and we really should probably tighten our usual grip. I found that this improved my accuracy.

I am in the group that doesn't like the long, scratchy, heavy trigger pull. I shot over 500 rounds before deciding it wasn't for me. Mind you, I decided to modify the trigger, not get rid of the Sigma, which I very much like. It feels like it's down to 6-7 pounds now, but that's just an educated guess. Lots of firing or a little sanding will smoothen it out some. Not much you can do about the length, but I wouldn't change it anyway. The original trigger set-up -- maybe not the scratchy part -- is intended as a safety feature, as has been noted, and I feel like I haven't compromised that too much with the modification. So, if anyone is put-off by the 'heavy trigger', it's not an insurmountable problem. YouTube has easy to follow videos. It was my first trigger mod and I managed it.

Great review, by the way, from the OP.
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I have both a SW9VE and a Glock 17. I have had both for years. I shoot better with the Glock. The SW9VE Shoots a noticeably bigger pattern than the Glock does. But the SW9VE is the better bargain for the price and is a great value.
My SW9VE has always performed flawlessly.
For all of you that find the Sigma not shooting all that accurate you may wan't to have a better crown put on your barrel. I have talked to a few gunsmiths who have said that S&W does not put the best crown on there guns and a good crown will make a significant difference in accuracy. I had the crown done on my S&W 5906 and it will drive tacks now. I am in the process of getting a new crown put on my Sigma and I will let you know how it shoots. I figure it will improve quite a bit over stock as you can see with the naked eye how bad the Sigma crown is.
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That's interesting that yours was no good: mine is perfectly fine.






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Hey Erich,
What kind of light setup are you using??
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A cheap but bright Chinese thing I picked up somewhere (CDNN?) for very little money on one of the Sigma-to-weaver adapters that some national company makes for the thing (think I got it from Midway USA).
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Cool, Thanks I'll check it out. I bought a cheap $30.00 flashlight for work, chinese made. Their using CREE bulbs, the thing is a torch!!
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I have a SW9VE and it jams every other shot.I throughly cleaned it.What could be the problem
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It may be the ammo. What were you shooting? Try different ammo before contributing the problem to the gun.
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A lot of reassuring reviews here. I bought mine last year in used condition from a nationwide sporting goods store. A close look inside and out, told me the gun was barely broken in. $290 plus tax, was a steal. I drove straight to the Firing Line and tested both clips with Luger FMJ 115gr.
I emptied each clip (total 32 rounds) killing my letter sized target at 15 yards, with only several rounds unaccounted for (I call them flyers). I then packed up to leave, sensing the awe that the neighboring shooters must have felt, seeing me in action. I was a happy camper, as I had been waiting to change my concealed carry, from a Kahr CW9 which was mis-loading. I had previously used the Kahr E9 without any problems so imagine my disappointment when my new CW9 proved unreliable (Not a nice feeling). I wanted an affordable, but reliable carry that wouldn't be missed (much) if it got confiscated. I've heard the SW9VE called America's Glock, and I believe it. Great fit and feel. It took a little time to get used to carrying the full size as oppose to the compact, but it was just fine after a few days. I don't break it down after every use, I just clean the barrel. If it works don't mess with it. I "dust" it every week. I keep one clip empty and rotate the clips every several months.
I did the "trigger fix" myself, to get the trigger pressure reduced. I was happy with the stock trigger, but I figured that a slightly easier pull might help with those darn "flyers". I've since been back to the range a couple of times and guess what? Still got a couple of flyers out of every clip. Oh Well............
I did loan it to my nephew, who reported one time the clip failed to chamber the next round. Apparently it never made it out of the clip for some reason. Not even a little way out. It was the first or second clip fired so the gun was not that hot. He did not make a note of which clip it was. He thumbed the top round in the clip, popped it back in the gun and proceeded to finish off a 100 round box without any problems. After hearing this, all I could do was put more rounds through it (a couple hundred, various brands, all 115gr) which I did without any problems. ........Love the gun and I have "high confidence" when I carry it.
This is my first gun review so thanks for your considerations, and any comments will be welcome, but that's not why I'm really here.
I saw the banner while browsing and said to myself, "self" there is your gun. Yes that looks like a Model 17 (K22). Now I'm really a proud owner. Mine was inherited from my father who bought it new sometime before I was born (late 40's or early 50's). It's a classic.
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I owned an SW40VE for about 2yrs. I probably put around 500 rounds through it without any issues. Accuracy was decent (Typical 4-5" @ 25 yds. ). I did not use or carry the weapon on duty (Home Defense only). I have no complaints and sold it pretty much for what I had into it. I would definitely buy another but I would go with the 9mm version this time for the cheaper ammo. Great buy for the $$$!
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I got about 400 through mine so far and I had it almost a month. No issues at all.
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The SW9VE was my first handgun. It feels perfect in my hand and shoots comfortably. After 300 rounds of whatever was rolling around the bottom of the bag I declared it good for guarding the motor-home.
I'm glad to see so many agree with me.
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Picked my sw9ve up used as well , looking it over hardly used . My 1st pistol. I love it .I use it as my carry and home . The only thing I did was add Meprolite night sights . I used to think the trigger was a hard pull . Now is just fine and I like the trigger for safety as well.And it don't look bad either .
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Used is OK in my experience to9. And it is perfect for the motor home Airman, especially while driving through California, since that is the only way they allow you to transport a loaded gun.
I did notice that when I use my Outside of the Pants Holster, it can scuff the polymer in places. I guess that would be true with many models, not just the SW9VE. I tried lining places in the holster with electrical tape, and that seems to lesson the wear. Wear on a gun us not good for resale value. I also have decided that I still want a compact for carry in the summertime. I use the Inside the Pants Holster in summer and that full size just does not feel right. I don't use a fanny pack, so I am in the market for a reliable compact.
Here is my SW9VE with the Out holster, and my Buck knife. And a bonus..... I threw in a picture of my K22.......with the 6" barrel.....it's a classic.

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Thanks for the review on the Smith & Wesson Sigma 9VE, for years I had been debatin' on this firearm to purchase, my sole purpose of the Sigma is for everyday carry..At work I use a Kimber Custom II, well it definatly grabs attention alot, but the weight is unbearable sometimes. After reading this review I decided to go to my local FFL they had one there for $300.00, the FFL stated they sell more Sigma's than Glock's. I had a Glock, hated it; missed fired four times...it was faulty ammunition. I liked how the Sigma feels in my hand, the trigger is all not that bad and point of aim is good for me, add some night sights perfect.
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As much as I love my Sigma 9 I want to get a Sigma 40.
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Great review Lee! I enjoy shooting my 9VE, no complaints here.
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Thanks guys for responding to this old thread!

I'm glad to see that the reputation of the sigma just keeps going north.

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I got lucky with my SW9VE. I bought it BEFORE I read reviews! Was at a gun show and traded a ****** Taurus for it and got it home and was appalled at the reviews it got. I was so happy with it after taking it to the range and going through a box of ammo. Not a single malfunction of any kind, and since I am also a DA revolver guy, I thought the trigger was light and not too long. Perfect carry gun for me, being used to heavy and long triggers.
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Just ran 300 rounds on my SD9VE. The barrel is out I put the slide to lube it and now I cant resale the slide. Any ideas?
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Just ran 300 rounds on my SD9VE. The barrel is out I put the slide to lube it and now I cant resale the slide. Any ideas?
Wait, what?
I suggest you contact S&W if you're having problems.
I know I am sure having a problem with what you posted!
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I love the feel of the SW9VE but mine is now back to S&W for it's 2nd broken firing pin in less than 200 rounds. Customer service has been very nice and sent shipping tag for return. I don't think I could ever trust it again for a HD gun.
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I love the feel of the SW9VE but mine is now back to S&W for it's 2nd broken firing pin in less than 200 rounds. Customer service has been very nice and sent shipping tag for return. I don't think I could ever trust it again for a HD gun.
Any dry-firing?
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I still have and shoot my old "issued" SIGMA sw40c.
Works every time.
Lots of memories with this one.
Never failed me in my work.
I have kept it as it is my life saver old faithful.
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Just ran 300 rounds on my SD9VE. The barrel is out I put the slide to lube it and now I cant resale the slide. Any ideas?
Hold the slide firmly at "closed" position (where it would be if barrel was in battery), and pull trigger. Striker will slip off sear and you'll be able to push slide forward off grip frame.
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