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Old 03-08-2011, 09:06 AM
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can you only use the GL2007 modle or any of them for a glock?
I installed the GL2009 on my 40VE.

LitePipe diameter is .120" Height of sight from slide up is .162"



The GL2007, 2006 and 2009 are the same height. The GL2009-215 is .215" high.

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That isn't a gun problem. You need some shooting glasses with a "computer glasses" prescription in them so you can focus on the front sight and let the target go blurry. I've been using such glasses for years, and they make all the difference in the world shooting IDPA and USPSA. I like the "computer glasses so much I routinely wear them indoors all the time so I can see things up close.
What do those look like? Do you have a pic or can you post it?

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As an aside, if I were to have lasik surgery, I would have my eyes corrected for focus at one meter, and wear glasses for distance vision, not get them corrected for infinity focus. Most of what I need to see clearly during my typical day is within arms length. I have heard many nearsighted people who got lasik complain of your problem when they suddenly become farsighted. The old lens just can't "accomodate" or focus back and forth like it did when we were 20 years old, so basically we older folks only see clearly at one distance without glasses; that's why they make bi and tri focals.
I did it because I had been wearing glasses and contacts since I was 6...... So got tired of them. I'd rather wear readers every once in a while or at work, but do without them normally.....
They can even correct both far and near sighted at the same time now!
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Any style you want. I got the gold filled steel frame aviation type glasses with large lens, but they are single-vision glasses, and can be made in any style you want. Any competent optometrist should know what computer glasses are. If not, just tell them you want single vision glasses in polycarbonate, with vision corrected to one meter distance. For people that wear trifocals, that is about the same prescription as the middle part of their glasses.
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I installed my new GL2006 Hi-Viz sight last night. It took a bit longer than the 20 mins. other posters have claimed. I spent a bit of time touching it up with a Birchwood Casey Black touch up pen, to blacken a couple of scratches from the filing, and it takes a few mins to dry before handling. No use posting photos, as it looks just like the rest of the sight mods. It's been raining for a couple of days, so I haven't been able to test it out yet. I printed out a few targets that I down loaded off line, free. I will get a better idea of POI that I wouldn't get with our steel disk, knock down targets that we normally use for plinking. I did use some loctite blue on the threads but it seemed real thin for some reason. I haven't used the stuff in several years, but I don't remember it being this thin and runny. I did shake the little tube for a couple of mins before using, and it was a brand new tube. Hopefully it will set up nicely. The sight glows very well, even in low light conditions. I am surprised that Hi-Viz doesn't make a sight specifically for the Sigma. I noticed that it is very popular on the Internet as a common sight replacement choice for Sigmas. I will post my test results as soon as I get a little dry weather. My son-in-law is interested in replacing his Glock sight, now that he has seen my mod.
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I installed my new GL2006 Hi-Viz sight last night. It took a bit longer than the 20 mins. other posters have claimed. I spent a bit of time touching it up with a Birchwood Casey Black touch up pen, to blacken a couple of scratches from the filing, and it takes a few mins to dry before handling. No use posting photos, as it looks just like the rest of the sight mods. It's been raining for a couple of days, so I haven't been able to test it out yet. I printed out a few targets that I down loaded off line, free. I will get a better idea of POI that I wouldn't get with our steel disk, knock down targets that we normally use for plinking. I did use some loctite blue on the threads but it seemed real thin for some reason. I haven't used the stuff in several years, but I don't remember it being this thin and runny. I did shake the little tube for a couple of mins before using, and it was a brand new tube. Hopefully it will set up nicely. The sight glows very well, even in low light conditions. I am surprised that Hi-Viz doesn't make a sight specifically for the Sigma. I noticed that it is very popular on the Internet as a common sight replacement choice for Sigmas. I will post my test results as soon as I get a little dry weather. My son-in-law is interested in replacing his Glock sight, now that he has seen my mod.
After reading all of the posts in this thread, I getting the read that the GL2006 is the way to go, correct? I kind of wanted to stay away from a "pipe" set up and go with a smaller application. Is this possible with the Sigma? I don't have a lot of fine tools to work with, so I was considering purchasing the small nut driver tool for the Glock front sight nut install.







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The tools I used consisted of a pair of pliers to easily remove the stock sight. A small file to file the sides down to the point where it would fit the hole in the slide. A drop of loctite blue 242 on the screw threads. And a 3/15 nut driver socket type wrench that came with a computer tool kit. Oh, I also used a gun blackener pen to cover a bit of scratches I put on the base fo the sight when I was filing.

The GL2006 is shorter than the stock sight, so you can expect it to bring your point of impact up on the target. That is fine with me as my 9ve was shooting a few inches low. Now, everyone that shoots my sigma is right on their point of aim.

In the photo you put in your comment, that wide looking base is actually the screw that has been screwed into the base. The base that needs to be filed is actually just under the sight in the photo and you can barely make it out.

Don't forget the loctite.
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What are your thoughts on the Ameriglo dot sight??
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Just a tip here, when filing the side of the base of the sight to fit the hole in the slide , if you cover the upper section with a piece of green or blue painters tape , you should be able to avoid scratching the side of the sightes...
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Just a tip here, when filing the side of the base of the sight to fit the hole in the slide , if you cover the upper section with a piece of green or blue painters tape , you should be able to avoid scratching the side of the sightes...
I thought of doing that, but it was so small and the fingers so large, that I was doing well enough just holding on to it. But, I had a gun black pen so it's fine. Most would not have noticed the little scratches anyway. I probably would not have noticed them if someone else had done the work.

Those little sights are probably the best deal out there.
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What are your thoughts on the Ameriglo dot sight??
Good question. I'm assuming you mean night sight, and not the actual red dot sight, in my reply. They have a S&W OEM night sight at Brownells for about $60. It is listed as fitting the 40V but not listed as fitting the 40VE. I haven't called to ask about the fit for the 40VE because I want it cheaper and Brownells is backordered (out-of-stock). Of course AmeriGlo doesn't make one for the Sigma but I'm about to see if the same principle of this HIVIZ thread applies as I've just ordered a Glock AmeriGlo front sight "fits all Glocks". It probably won't be in for a week or two but I'll document the process with pictures here.

I bought it for $34.99 at GlockWorld plus S+H $4.95. I also bought some other stuff because GlockWorld has a flat ship rate for any sales amount except ammo. They had it for $32.97 at cheaperthandirt but S+H was over $10. As cheaperthandirt is in Fort Worth, I would have to pay Texas sales tax, which is not insignificant. I don't pay sales tax at GlockWorld. The AmeriGlo part number is GL-112. It looks the same as the night sight pictured in post #105. The height is listed at 0.165". Width is 0.140".

I got interested after handling a S&W SD40 which comes with a tritium front night sight. (Actually, I think the night sight is really most of the dollar difference between the Sigma and the SD.)

Lets face it, if you need the gun for self defense in darkness, you only need to see the front sight. In fact Dr. Ignatius Piazza has a multi-million self-defense training facility in Las Vegas and his company is called FrontSight.

I know we are working on budgets here so I'm going to do it as inexpensively as possible without sacrificing quality.

Not trying to be a tease. Just wanted to give out the info in case someone else wanted to try this at the same time. I DON'T YET KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK.

Two general questions I have:

1) Is the sight attachment hole on the 9VE the same size and shape as on the 40VE?

2) I've seen Locktite Red and Blue both used on this thread, Red is stronger than Blue and may destroy the part if removal is attempted. Which is really better for this application?

One other note, I was confused about the Trijicon and AmeriGlo references for the same sight. Turns out that AmeriGlo makes the metal sight housings, ships them to Trijicon who makes and installs the tritium tubes in the housings and ships them back to AmeriGlo who then sells them as AmeriGlo night sights.

Scientific note: Tritium is radioactive with a half-life of 12 years, meaning that your AmeriGlo sight will lose 50% of its brightness every 12 years. It emits low energy beta particles which have a range of about an inch and won't even penetrate the stratum corneum of the skin. The particles likely don't even get through the metal housing. So it won't set off radiation detectors at the airport. It's perfectly safe unless you break the tube and swallow it.

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I used blue on mine, and am coming up on 650 rounds through it, and EDC it in a JIT slide holster most of the time, so the front sight is exposed. Absolutely NO problems with it loosening, so I would say red is overkill.
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i used the red on mine only because it said it was vibration and such and i can't think of any more of a vibration than a hand gun going off! lol
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Hey im not a fan of the hi viz stuff but do need mine to shoot higher, is a OEM glock front sight work and is it the same height as the high viz?
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Hi, I just purchased the SW40VE and found it was shooting Low to the Left for me. Slightly Drifted the Rear Sight to the RIGHT and,

After Reading Ray1970 HiViz Sight install,
which I believe to be the GL2006 or GL2007 that is .162" High,
I gradually filed down the Front Sight to about .120" from the Stock .190" and now it is pretty much on Target at 20FT.

I think the GL2009 height of .215" would be too high of the HiViz Sights.

Just an idea for those who might try this before changing out the Stock Sights. Glad to be here and enjoy the many great ideas that are shared.

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Welcome to the forum.

But what you didn't say was what sight picture you were starting with. The Sigma sights are made to cover the bull, not lollipop like most of us were taught. That can obviously lead to low shots.
As far as shooting left, that's somewhat of a normal comment about the Sigmas. Mostly it's a matter of dealing with the long/hard trigger.
And then the final factor is the bullets you're shooting. My 40 shoots lower with lighter rounds.
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Welcome to the forum.

The Sigma sights are made to cover the bull, not lollipop like most of us were taught. That can obviously lead to low shots.

As far as shooting left, that's somewhat of a normal comment about the Sigmas. Mostly it's a matter of dealing with the long/hard trigger.
And then the final factor is the bullets you're shooting. My 40 shoots lower with lighter rounds.
PDL,
Thanks for the Welcome. You are right, I am not covering the Bull...but doing it the Old Way. I'll change this practice and see if it helps my accuracy.

As far as rounds go, I was using the 180 grain American Eagle. When I went to our Metro Ammo/Reloader Seller, he said when they were training the Police Dept's, they had problems with 180 GR consistancy and when they use the 165 GR, the Consistancy was more reliable and accurate.

So this is the type of ammo I am using now while I am getting used to this gun and getting it sighted in.

I will take your advice forward and cover the Bull and see how this works out... hopefully I did not grind off too much of the front sight!

Thanks for the advice!
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Awesome. Please keep it coming with the updates..how much does a standard glock 19 front sight go for? I found something very interesting regarding the rear sights on a sigma..I've never heard anyone mention this on this forum so I don't know if this is something new or something so old its rare but I was searching around on ebay and saw someone had pachmayer fully adjustable rear sights specifically for the Sigma. In the picture they were still in the package but it looked like it could have been an older package..anyways I thought it was interesting. If your poi is a little too high something like this may be what you need to dial it in..I'm excited to see what aftermarket parts start coming out for the SD40 that we can use in our Sigmas..I wonder if the front sights will be compatible..
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I'm excited to see what aftermarket parts start coming out for the SD40 that we can use in our Sigmas..I wonder if the front sights will be compatible..
SD's use the same sights as the M&P's, they are NOT the same as Sigma's.

I like the Meprolight sights for the Sigma.
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So has anyone tried a rear sight project yet?
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thanks to all who have posted, I am going to order the HiViz sights soon and try to mod my sigma. All your posts have helped me in dialing in my gun. Out of the box at 15 yards it was shooting 8 inches low and about 6 inches right. I thought ther was no adjustment to be made in the rear sight being "fixed" and have have through countless rounds trying to figure out what I was doing wrong.
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thanks to all who have posted, I am going to order the HiViz sights soon and try to mod my sigma. All your posts have helped me in dialing in my gun. Out of the box at 15 yards it was shooting 8 inches low and about 6 inches right. I thought ther was no adjustment to be made in the rear sight being "fixed" and have have through countless rounds trying to figure out what I was doing wrong.
Don't know how much you've read on this so far. But a couple of things that you didn't mention. If you're fireing light bullets like 165s etc, they will shoot to a different POA/POI than the 180's that the Sigma sights are regulated for. Also the sights are set to cover the target, not lollipop like we were all taught. The windage problem is something else altogether. Check out the correcting target here to see if that gives you any perspective on what's happening. Can't get to my copy but here's one on the net. Correction Target

Edit to add, sorry, forgot to say welcome to the forum.
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My Sigma shoots on the button to 50 yards with 165's... and here's another correction target, which is probably as useful as any of them.

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I am goingto order a high viz front sight tonight for my 9ve, I would also like to change the rear. Has anyone come up with a good aftermarket rear sight mod?
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Pachmayr accu-set for sw40 if you can find it,

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-w...thingy-19.html
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Any chance you would have an item number for the Pac rear sight? Been looking and haven't been able to come up with anything.
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Any chance you would have an item number for the Pac rear sight? Been looking and haven't been able to come up with anything.
sorry,no. got it off ebay after someone posted on this site,seeing it there. tried looking up my invoice but it was too old. try contacting Pachmayr.
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I checked the Pac web site but didn't find anything, I'll try sending them an email.

Thanks, Kenny
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My SW40VE was shooting very low out of the box. Thanks to all in this thread so far that documented this process, but especially to Ray1970. There have been some great pics so far, but I thought a few more wouldn't hurt.

Kent

Original front sight:





Taped off the front of the slide to be sure not to mark it. In hindsight, it came off so easily it probably isn't needed, but it's cheap insurance.



A pair of pliers and just a little pressure and the original front sight is off.



Inside the slide:



Some careful filing with some small files and test fitting. Once it's fitted up, I used a small drop of blue Loctite and a 3/16" nut driver.



It certainly looks better, and hopefully I get some time at the range soon to see if it helped the low shot placement.









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Nice job. Welcome to the club!
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No offense but,it looks like a minature level.
Are these sights installed on pistols from the factory?
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I guess it may look a bit like a bubble level. This sight is designed for a Glock, but with a little filing, works just fine on the Sigma. They ship from the factory only with the white dot sight.

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Hello To All,
I am new to this site and this Forum. I was searching the internet for sights for my SW40EV and ran across this forum. Just want to let you all know that I have order the sight and will be adding it to the gun as soon as i get it. Thank you all for the great, detailed information and helping me resolve my "down and left" shooting. I will let you all know how it worked out. Will also add photos of the targets once completed. No need in adding how to pictures since there are a few of them here already.
Thanks again.
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Ok, I am hooled and ready to do this mod. One question to everyone here. With the sights that you have chosen can you tell me how your grouping has chaged? Are you dead center, high, low, etc? I did notice with my Sigma 40VE that again it shoots low, like 3-4" low from center of target and from reading it is because the way the sighting system is designed to cover the target vs. lolipop the target like we've all been trained. Thanks. Please reply with sights used, ie. glock model #, and grouping.
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J SW40VE and other shooting low left, please research "low left" before modifying your Sigma. This applies to the new owners, I know the sigma nuts know what they are doing.
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J SW40VE and other shooting low left, please research "low left" before modifying your Sigma. This applies to the new owners, I know the sigma nuts know what they are doing.
Thanks... will do.
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Thanks Ray1970 for the Heads up on the New Sight I can put on my Sigma. The only ?? I have is will 1 of the Sure Sites fit on a Sigma since they only fit the M&P for S&W. They make them for Sig, Springfield and Glock as well. Y'all can go to their site if they interest U at SureSight , They look like a great site system for anyone, and since the Glock site worked out for your Sigma was really hoping 1 of Sure Sites Glock sights would work on mine.
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seems like the Glock Front sight only for the Sigmas. Mepro has f/r for the Sigma.

I'm going to try out a red laser. that means I can focus on the BG
with the red dot shining in the eye.

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Actually you can probably just take it off bare handed. Push it off with your thumb probably. All I know is mine came off easily enough when I dropped the gun. Oops, it happens. Thank goodness for that inertial striker block spring cause it hit literally a brick wall.
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I have no idea where or when my front sight went AWOL...picked it up off the bedside table and did my morning check on it and no front sight! Called S&W to ask about having a replacement sent since it's such a small part and they told me no, that the slide would have to be sent it as it's "sonic welded" on...I asked them if that was a fancy term for "melted" and the guy got downright uptight with me! I said no thanks, not gonna send it in, I'm just gonna buy a Glock front sight for it and ended the call.
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Hey Ray. I'm new to this forum, and so I hope-hope-hope you are still around to answer some procedural questions. I just now noticed that this thread is over two years old, so please be available. According to your stated specs. on the Glock replacement sight it was .018" wider than the slot on the Sigma slide. I'd like to know please, what was the geometric shape of the replacement sight's mounting post? Was it square, or rectangular, or some kind of polygon? And how Exactly did you file it to fit? Did you carefully take metal off both sides equally? The .018" greater thickness would equate to .009" per side. How did you accomplish taking the same amount of metal off each side, if that's what you did? Did you use a very fine file and a micrometer, or did you file it down by trial-and-error until it fit? Did you take metal off just one side or both? I need these details so I can make it work for me too just as it worked for you. Obviously the slot in the Sigma slide is that of a two dimensional cross sectional view of a cylinder. The post of the Glock aftermarket sight looked like a polygon, specifically hexagonal. Please, exactly how did you make it work? Thank you.
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No one has posted in this thread for awhile, but recently made the HiVis front sight change and I am very pleased with the results. Amazon carries the sight. To answer the question on the HiVis post shape, it is an oblong like the Sigma hole only a little too large. I basically just had to gently file the sides of the new post to cut it down to fit. I tried to take the same amount of material from each side. I also found that it was necessary to round the oblong edges slightly. When it finally fit it was snug with no play at all. I also used Blue Locktite. If you need to remove it in the future it will release with heat as from a soldering gun. Buy your self a small file. Mine is flat and about 3" long and very fine. Go slow and you'll be fine.
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