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Old 04-13-2010, 08:48 AM
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I just got a new 40 and at 10 yards it shoots about 8 inches low,,,what's the deal with that???
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:51 AM
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Mine does the same. If I am shooting silhouettes I aim right between the shoulders and can consistently put them in the chest.
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:12 AM
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Sometimes shooting low is the result of 'anticipating' the shot, where your hand begins to push forward to resist the recoil before it happens. You may not be aware that you are doing this.

Try this dry-fire drill. Be SURE the gun is unloaded.

Cycle the slide to 'cock' the striker. Place a small coin flat on the top of the slide near the front sight, aim and squeeze the trigger - did the coin move or fall? If it did, your hand moved... Practice until the coin stops moving, or at least does not fall off...

This drill will help prevent the anticipating, and you may find your shots finding their way to your point-of-aim more consistently.
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:26 AM
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Good tip Jim H, thanks.

I also keep a cheapo laser around that i can mount on the trigger guard of any one of my guns just for dry fire drills. I will hang a target on the wall and practice keeping the laser still while pulling the trigger. Seems to help.
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Agree with Jim. Most likely it is an anticipation issue. Try the drill he talks about. After a few hundred times you will get the the point where you are dropping the nose less. If it is not the issue it could be light ammo like 115gr. I had the same problems when I first started shooting. A friend of mine who owns a range actually put me on high speed camera and you could see I was clearly dropping the the nose in anticipation of the shot.
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My friend shot low with my Sigma, thought it was anticipation too as he hadn't done any shooting in years. But I was paying close attention and couldn't see him dip the nose at all.

So I drew a small dot dead center of the ring and told him to cover it with the front post, then lower post slightly so the dot just showed while aligning the side dots. He was right on the money after that.
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My Sigma did the same - about 10" low at 10 yards. At first, I thought it was a trigger/trigger control issue. It wasn't. I finally sent it to Frank at LSG and he found that the barrel was faulty. After the barrel was replace, it was much improved. I eventually traded the Simga away...
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:59 AM
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Thanks,
I'm pretty sure I'm not dropping the nose of the gun,I have several pistols and this is the only one that does it. A bad barrel is not out of the question.
What is LSG and how do I get a hold of Frank?

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LSG is an authorized S&W repair center.

Here ya go!

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For what it's worth: It is easy to shoot the sigma low if you anticipate the shot. Every now and then, if I lose concentration or get tired, I pull one low.

Hope this helps,

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My Sigma did the same - about 10" low at 10 yards. At first, I thought it was a trigger/trigger control issue. It wasn't. I finally sent it to Frank at LSG and he found that the barrel was faulty. After the barrel was replace, it was much improved. I eventually traded the Simga away...
^^^^This^^^^

Sent mine into Frank and it was a sight improperly mounted on mine. He replaced it. I too sold it off and purchased an all metal 3rd gen. Much happier with my CS40...shoots accurately too
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I shot way low when I first got my Sigma, but was a good shot with other pistols. And I mean 12" - 18" low!

At first I assumed it was on the gun, but after hundreds of rounds and adding a Hogue Handall grip, I even managed to score some in the X-ring on my last outing.

Personally, I think it was a combination of anticipation and adjusting to the long trigger pull on the Sigma.

Check this target/chart out, it may help: Correcting handgun shooting problems Stuff From Hsoi
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I just installed a shorter front sight to raise my point of impact.... there is a thread here somewhere about it.
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My new M&P 2.0 9mm shoot 4" low at 15 feet.
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My new M&P 2.0 9mm shoot 4" low at 15 feet.
You have posted in the wrong Specific Forum! This should have been posted in the M&P Pistol Forum and incidentally, This thread is Seven Years Old!!
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Ii do not own the 40 cal. version of the SD, but it MAY be the bullet weight of the ammo you're using. With my sd9ve, the groups may shoot low depending on the weight of bullet I'm firing and the distance I'm shooting at !!! My understanding is that this is less common with the 9mm than other calibers. Some ammo/ distance experimenting may be in order. Also, I'm not actually sure WHAT bullet weight they use to regulate the sights !!! Experimentation can be expensive, but also FUN !!!
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Old 07-08-2017, 02:52 AM
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I think everybody covered the problems with technique but ammo can be a factor. Fast, light bullets shoot lower than slow, heavy bulllets as a result of barrel 'dwell' time.

I was experimenting with some very heavy (165 gr) 9mm bullets and my first shots went right over the target.
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I have a sd40, and shot at least 1000+ rounds through. At first I thought the same thing, I was anticipating the recoil for why I was shooting low then what I was aiming at. But after a few experiments, my sights were off some. I have to line the front sight just a tad higher then the rear sights to hit where I intend to aim. And this is basically out of box like that, never dropped or bumped into anything. But still its been an awesome gun for me and I edc this gun. I don't have much money or time to truly fix this "issue" but once I learned the trick for my gun, I can hit dead on where I aim.

Just sharing what I've learned with mine, does not mean this is your problem as well. But something to look into to help identify where your problems may lay
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I just bought an SD40VE and it's shooting low also. I'm relatively experienced and became very aggravated. I thought that it may have been an anticipation variable so I shot my buddies Springfield 1911 a1 and had a less than 3 inch group. That buddy is the same one I purchased the 40 from and he had no problem so tomorrow I'm going to put a couple hundred rounds through it and if it is the sights I can at least use them for a reference point
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My 9mm dose the same so what i done is shoot it like my Keltec P32 . I shoot it with the front sight bottom with the rear sight and then t right on target. At first for how it was for me I had the gunsmith see what is wrong with it and he tested it out and had his bother shoot it also and had problems with it also and did not know what to tell me on it. Then i try it like I do my KelTec and then problem is solved. now I can put cast in it and get what I want because i shoot mainly cast.
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Rule #1 -- It is NEVER the shooter!!

Rule # 2 -- In reality, and in spite of Rule #1, IT IS NEARLY ALWAYS THE SHOOTER!

Especially if a shooter has never fired a "Safe-action" (or Glock-style action, or whatever you want to call it) pistol before, it is just about guaranteed that the first time he gets his hand on one he will shoot low -- usually left-low, if he's a right-hander. This fact is so predictable -- in fact, almost immutable -- that I have actually won money by betting on it. I don't care how long you've been shooting or how many different types of guns you've shot -- you WILL shoot low, and it WILL be your fault. The only exceptions to this rule will be the folks who, through years of experience, know that keeping their eye welded to the front sight is vital. When you do that, you quickly see that this type of trigger action requires a slightly different grip and trigger-finger positioning than any other type of handgun. Make the slight adaptation required, and the problem goes away.
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I am a long way from being the best shot around & I did have this same problem. After working on my shooting, dry firing, grip, even stance all the things that have been talked here for years I was still shooting low to the point that I would aim high. I even tried shooting from a bench rest & still the rounds hit low.
What I came up with works for me, I raise the front sight up so that the top of the rear sights are half way down.
Something like this " o0o " also painted the front sight orange.
This is at what I have read is the recommended selfdefense shooting distance of 7 to 9 or 8 to 10 yards.
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