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Old 11-08-2010, 05:23 PM
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Well, I bought an SD40 the other day. At first I was disappointed in the trigger. But, after dry firing it about 30-40 times the trigger smoothed right out. The trigger has become amazing! It really does feel just like a DA revolver trigger pull and tips the scales at around 7 pounds. This is not a tuned M&P trigger. It has a long pull and a long reset just like a DA revolver. I actually think that this may be the perfect combat trigger. It isn't the perfect competition trigger but it's not designed to be. As far as the mechanism goes, it is a new design. It shares nothing in common with the M&P, the Glock or the SIGMA. My take on the design is that it is simple and robust. I think it will prove to be a very reliable design simply because of it's simplicity.

Some of the other outstanding features are the sights, grip and magazines. The sights are pure S&W M&P sights. This means that aftermarket sights for the M&P will fit the SD Series. There are some great sight options available. It comes from the factory with a front night sight. That will be staying and I think I will be adding a 10-8 Rear sight to the gun. The grip angle is from the SIGMA but with a new texture pattern. It's wonderful the way it is. Now on to the magazines. They are basically SIGMA mags with new floor plates and a new follower in the .40 model. You can get preban hicaps for the SIGMA and use them as is or put on SD floor plates on the 9mm or floor plates and followers in the .40.

Size wise, the SD is light and thin. It is thinner than the M&P and SIGMA. Overall it is a badass little gun at a great price. I can't wait to shoot it!
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:04 PM
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Thats good to here!! Keep us posted.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:20 PM
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That's all I needed to hear. It is time for me to go look at an SD. Though I enjoy the Sigmas, I think "thinner" is better.

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Old 11-09-2010, 08:03 AM
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Sounds like a nice gun. I can't wait to shoot one!
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:19 AM
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Don't get confused when we are talking thinner it may be 1/16 of an inch at best. I have 2 SD's a 9mm and a 40 and an old sigma 40V limited. I can not tell the difference in thickness by holding it. Still agree with everything else he said. I find myself carrying the SD40 over my M&P 40c at times. I really do like everything about the gun except for the way the rear serrations and sight pinch when carrying. I'm looking at different holster options for that though and see myself getting a cross breed super tuck sometime in my near future.
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Old 12-01-2010, 04:10 PM
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Check the frame carefully if you're planning on buying an SD pistol. Many have misaligned frames that S&W considers "within specs". Must be a lot of them because they are pretending that it's not a problem. But in my mind, having the slide a couple of degrees off from the frame is a problem, certainly not the way S&W intended for it to fit. But thy want stand behind it so be careful.
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Old 12-01-2010, 06:07 PM
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Where did you hear this? How many is "many"?
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:11 PM
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Check the frame carefully if you're planning on buying an SD pistol. Many have misaligned frames that S&W considers "within specs". Must be a lot of them because they are pretending that it's not a problem. But in my mind, having the slide a couple of degrees off from the frame is a problem, certainly not the way S&W intended for it to fit. But thy want stand behind it so be careful.
Until I see a picture I say BS. And as far as having too many out to "fix" a non issue. I say BS again. My SD9 and SD40 have performed flawless and slide play in a SD gun is fine for me. As long as it hits on target and where I aim I say it's good to go. Instead of opening an account on here just to bash S&W why don't you go out and shoot it and then report if it's an issue, or better yet let someone else who is skilled and qualified shoot it and give a report.
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I'm with Backon4 on this. If the pistol works fine and it's just cosmetic then get over it. Many Glocks exhibit the same issue and it's not a problem.
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Old 12-02-2010, 03:56 AM
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Until I see a picture I say BS. And as far as having too many out to "fix" a non issue. I say BS again. My SD9 and SD40 have performed flawless and slide play in a SD gun is fine for me. As long as it hits on target and where I aim I say it's good to go. Instead of opening an account on here just to bash S&W why don't you go out and shoot it and then report if it's an issue, or better yet let someone else who is skilled and qualified shoot it and give a report.
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My 3 month old 9VE trigger pull is still at 10.5# after 250 rounds and considerable dry firing. It's a little smoother now but always was pretty good. Having used DA revolvers for many years I prefer that general setup, particularly in a defense piece. As long as the pull is smooth without stacking or excessive backlash a somewhat heavy pull is a good thing IMHO. I had great difficulty shooting a G17 with stock trigger decently, and didn't do much better with a SIG 220 in DA/SA and DAO. Others do great, but I didn't.

After working with the Sigma for a while I wondered about an M&P 45c, but the pulls on M&Ps are noticeably lighter and I don't think I would shoot them as well as the Sigma. I'd rather not fork over $600 for an M&P and then find out I'd regressed.

Maybe if there was a 10 pound trigger option for the M&P I'd be okay.

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:38 AM
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This guy obviously created an account to just get on here and bash S&W, until he shows something to the contrary I will call him out. Obviously he is smarter than S&W because there must be something wrong because engineers are just idiots with calculators and fancy degrees who really don't know what they are doing or are too dumb to know the difference.

Anyone sense the sarcasm?
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Bat Guano,

There is a 10 pound trigger option for the M&P pistol. Just ask your dealer to order a Massachusetts Compliant M&P. Mass guns have a 10 pound trigger that feels amazingly similar to the SW9VE and SW40VE pistols.
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This guy obviously created an account to just get on here and bash S&W, until he shows something to the contrary I will call him out. Obviously he is smarter than S&W because there must be something wrong because engineers are just idiots with calculators and fancy degrees who really don't know what they are doing or are too dumb to know the difference.

Anyone sense the sarcasm?

I agree! He has 3 post all about the same thing. I'm stil waiting for him to call me so I can send him a shipping label.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:48 AM
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I would gladly add it to my collection as well. I have no problems with any of my S&W's and am sure I wouldn't have any problems with his either.
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His home page is Glock Talk.
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So I got to looking at my SD9 and it's off a little, like 2mm max. Shoots straight so I'm only going to assume that within spec allows for some variance.
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I love my sd40. The gun feels great in the hand and shoots better than i could. Granted I've only shot 200 rounds through it, I didn't a a ftf, fte,stovepipe or anything. The gun performed awesome. My only dislike is it's not made in .45, and the mag rattle.
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Presspics--that is interesting. I will keep that in mind as I just keep liking that Sigma trigger more and more.

I presume that any (?) M&P could be retrofitted to that setup...thanks for the heads-up on that.
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Took a look at my new SD9 and noticed the slide at very end (business end) of frame is canted to one side. Disassembled and looked like frame rail/guts and slide matched and are true. Just the plastic molded end of frame is slightly angled to one side. Not a functional problem.

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I love my sd40. My only dislike is it's not made in .45, and the mag rattle.
Amen, SD45, or Sigma with 10 round mags and optional 13 round mags. That would be sweet!
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