I am very impressed with this firearm. This is the first handgun that I have owned and compared to the guns I have shot before including the glock 22 last week I feel like this is a great weapon. I, like many others had heard of the heavy trigger pull but I really think that it was not that bad and as a result have decided not to do any of the mods just yet. Let's see if I can figure out how to upload pics.

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What did that blue man ever do to you!? Looks like you annihilated him with prejudice. Congrats on your Sigma.

Extreme prejudice

Can any owners of the newest generation of Sigma's post a trigger pull scale reading? Mine was a first gen and it maxed out a 12 pound trigger pull. I'm just curious if they have relaxed it some to make it not so heavy.

I felt the gritty trigger that everyone talks about but after firing the glock 4 or 5 days ago I wouldn't say that the sigmas are twice as hard like everyone says. It is a long pull though.

I've never measured a trigger pull in my life and have no need too.

I don't know what the pull is on the sigma; sorry I couldn't help.

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Congrats on the new 40! never measured my trigger pull since it was my first handgun i didn't have any idea what a heavy pull was lol

My SW9E was a clean 10lbs new. When you are target shooting 10lbs feels like 10lbs, when you are in a fight or flight situation 10lbs feels like 1lb. When I started out in LE on my first FI made us shoot hundreds of rounds through a Ruger 9mm that had been set up with an 16-18lb trigger (although I would have guessed it was 30lbs). He said a heavy trigger will make your finger stronger, reveal your weakness and force you to be a better shooter through form, concentration and commitment. My S&W 915 felt like a match grade custom shop gun after a few days with that Ruger. It was a lesson not lost on me, but something that has clearly gone by the wayside in the American handgun market.

I really don't want to start an argument on here, especially since many senior members seem to think and are adamant that a hard trigger pull is "good for you."

A hard trigger pull might be a good thing for some. I don't believe that this is an absolute. We have Colts and S&W revolvers that have real easy DA triggers. Shoot, if a 1911 had a hard trigger pull, would that make a better pistol?

In my opinion, if you have good shooting habits already, then there is no need for a hard trigger pull. If you want to defend your love for the Sigma, fine. I'm ok with that. But, I have been shooting weapons for over 40 years and I still don't consider myself the expert. I have also been a sniper on a SWAT team and a marksmanship instructor, MANY years ago. I still don't consider myself the expert.

But come on, a hard trigger pull will just accentuate your weakness to the point that you compensate for it. The sigma trigger pull is great for the person that is hopped up on adrenaline, nervous and inclined to a spontaneous trigger snap faced with exigent circumstances.

The Sigma is what it is. It is an inexpensive, but very good pistol designed to launch a projectile on a reliable basis. I doubt very much that it was designed to make a "better marksman" out of anyone. The design precludes any major modifications to it that will allow it maintain it's dependable integrity.

A car with manual steering may or may not make a person a better driver. A car that has power steering and power brakes make it a much "easier" car to enjoy. Some folks like a stick shift in their car and enjoy driving it that way. Others like automatic shifting.

The same thing pertains to pistols. This pistol is NOT a 1911A1 with single action. It is a DA style pistol with a long trigger pull. If you can make it a lighter trigger pull without compromising dependability then you WILL be a better shot with it. That's just fact. If it is easier, then you have less effort to compensate for the heavier pull. If you want to think that it makes you a better shot if you have a heavier trigger pull, then why not make your other weapons heavier?

I doubt very much that S&W had making someone a better shot in mind when they designed an inexpensive defensive pistol.

If you "purists" (meaning this respectfully) want to suggest that it makes YOU a better shot, go for it. But to insist that it makes everyone else a better shot is being disingenuous. I do applaud you for trying to help new folks avoid the mistake of rendering a SD weapon useless. God Bless you for that.

I am still waiting to hear about all the modification failures. I have modified my 9ve to the point that it is the smoothest pistol I have ever fired, and it now has maybe half the trigger pull. I can not confidently state that it is 100% dependable yet because I have only fired a few hundred rounds through it with the latest mods. It's been raining for a few days, so I am waiting for it to dry out a bit before putting it through more tests. Even if I fire two thousand rounds through it with no failures, I will bet that there are some on here that will say that I have to fire five or ten thousand before I can be confident that it is a sound modification.

I am going to get down off my soap box now. You are good folks on here and I hope that I have not insulted anyone. Just wanted to get my opinion out there.

To summarize, if you like your Sigma out of the box, then fine, shoot it until you get a chill up your leg.
If you like the price and like the sigma but wish it had a better trigger pull. Then that's also fine, because if you are not afraid to void your warranty, do some research and start personalizing your Sigma. Just be warned that you may not render it dangerous, but you could render it useless if you need it some day for self defense. I am not saying you will, but there is the slightest possibility. There are probably hundreds of folks that have successfully modified their Sigma to where they enjoy shooting it. I am one of them. But to me, the pistol is just one of many tools I have and right now a bit of a hobby. My sigma will never be my concealed carry weapon of choice. I have a small pocket pistol for that. It is not my hunting weapon either. But, as a home defense weapon, it will adequately supplement my other weapons.

I'm sorry but I don't kiss my Sigma. I don't laugh when I fire it. I just like to challenge myself to fire it more and more accurately and enjoy making it perform better than it was designed. Just like my old 1968 Mustang. I enjoy making it perform better than it was designed.

That said, God Bless you folks for sharing your opinions and advice.

Good post-shouldn't hurt anybody's feelings.

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It was not designed to make a better marksman out of anyone, but yet it does just the same. It was designed so that under stress there would be less negligent discharges. An issue that has somewhat hurt the public rep (deserved or not) of the much lighter triggered Austrian wonder pistol. And it does what it was designed to do very well. Saying a heavy trigger doesn't help you focus more on fundamentals is like saying that lifting heavy weights doesn't make you stronger. Sure Richard Simmons got physically fit with those 5lbs dumbbells, but Arnold for a lot stronger benching 400lbs barbells.

I don't consider myself an expert although my resume in law enforcement & the shooting sports would be far from average. I can see how you don't see how a heavy trigger pull can make you a better shooter, just like I can see how some people thought a certain recently elected president would be good for this country; I just don't agree because my first hand experience has proven different. I enjoyed you car analogy and it made me wonder how those old school race car drivers were able to set and break records without the benefit of modern day enhanced vehicle technology. Oh yeah, they had to rely on skill. This is why when my wife wanted to learn how to shoot, she started out on my old (at the time) stock SW9VE. When she got that down she moved over to the 3rd Gen Smiths, Glocks, M&P's, etc. But to this day she tends to grab a Sigma when we go out shooting.

By the way, my SW9E trigger has been modded beyond most. The pull is somewhere around 5lbs and smooth as glass. I often use it just to tick off Glock purists and Sigma bashers, without mentioning the trigger job.

I purchased my Sigma (40VE) a couple of months ago, and after the first several hundred rounds I thought the trigger felt gritty and not too smooth. I sent it back to S&W to have it looked at and received it back about 10 days later. Now the pull is smooth as silk and appears to be somewhat lighter - not sure if the polishing/cleaning did this or if the pull is actually lighter. Either way, it certainly worth it!

Well, according to some folks on here, you should not have had that thing tampered with, because it is supposed to be gritty. That's the way they designed it. It will make you a better marksman.

Just kidding. Like I said, I am not an expert.