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Old 07-26-2011, 07:53 PM
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I was in a gun shop the other day and they had a Glock display that showed all the glock parts and a statement on the poster that indicated they are have a 40,000 round warranty or maybe guarantee, I dont remember the exact wording....any one have an idea of how many rounds a Sigma 9VE or 40 would take before it wore out?
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Old 07-26-2011, 08:07 PM
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Glocks can take far more than 40,000 rounds. There are a few Glock pistols out there with documented round counts over 200,000.

I don't think anyone's ever torture tested a Sigma. You should give it a go! 10,000 rounds without a cleaning and the drop test from an aircraft should really put it through it's paces.
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I have no clue, but I'll bet it's a bunch.

I do know that it gets better every time you pull the trigger.
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Warranty, schmarranty.

S&W has a Lifetime Service Policy on their handguns. They’ll repair or replace it and even cover the shipping, regardless of the round count.

Too bad they don't make cars.
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Well, I'm at 19,8xx right now with Zero FTF with my Sigma I figure for a gun half the cost and a lifetime warranty, it could break now and I'd be fine.
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Warranty, schmarranty.

S&W has a Lifetime Service Policy on their handguns. They’ll repair or replace it and even cover the shipping, regardless of the round count.

Too bad they don't make cars.
I just got my first S&W Sigma, this is very nice to know! My only question is what is involved with shipping a handgun? Mine is in really good condition, but in the event it does break, what steps do I need to know to ship it back to S&W?
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Interesting question we talking bullet weight and Plus P? NATO or sub-sonics?

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[QUOTE=Skeptic 9c;136053980]No hu-hu, they send you a box and instructions.

Maybe you should rephraze that to D-Structions...LOL May they just don't wear out....Thats MY hope anyway...LOL
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The frame, barrel, locking system, and most everything besides the fire control mechanism is mechanically identical to a Glock. I would expect the Sigma to last at least as long. I would expect the mainspring to wear out first and will require several exchanges before the rest is anywhere near worn out.
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Dont know. But, i do know this... Sigma is the first auto-pistol I have ever owned that has never, ever given me a problem... I am going to buy another one, and just leave it in the box, for when I do manage to wear mine out.... i shoot about 100 rds a week
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hmm good questions. As i have just bought mine and have only put about 600 rounds through it, but clean it after every use it is a good thing to know that they have such outstanding product support
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the only thing i could see failing is the plastic sear housing the springs
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Hi Folks,

I have a Sigma 40VE that I've had for years as a truck gun. I've abused ( used hard) this weapon and have around 30,000 rounds thru it.

Like the last poster, Maybe the plastic sear housing or a small spring might go, but after 30,000 rounds, I have not had one problem, no stove pipes, FTF,FTE etc of any kind. I have shot through it every concievable round you can name except re-loads, It eats everything. I do keep properly cleaned and lubricated.

I have dropped it over board several times while fly fishing, dropped it in the sand, mud and everywhere in between, no failures, no stress cracks nothing.

The gun was designed by Smith to be a tank and that has been my experience. Others stories may very, but this is my experience.

And I'm a certified Glock armorer and Glock fan. I own three Glocks.

Any Sigma that has been treated well{if buying second hand} or any new one once you get the trigger figured out will go pretty much forever. Like I said they are a tank.

I used to shoot IDPA with mine, hence the high round count, and had no problems.

Just one big thing, practice, practice practice. You probably have heard the stories about the trigger. It's long, but was designed that way. And what can be said about the price point?

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Old 08-02-2011, 03:07 PM
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Thanks for those that have responded. My question was not to compare the Sigma with the Glock only that Glock had made a statement and I was wondering what the round count with a Sigma may be. The person who has run 30,000 through it is giving a good idea. I have heard that the slide are interchangeable from Glock to Sigma and have heard that was true but no longer is true. I own two once of which I bought for use by CHL students who may not have a gun. I like the longer DAO pull because I think it keeps idiots from shooting guns when they did not mean to shoot guns, or at least cuts down on the times they do.....anyone with experience in round count please post.
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I would think that a person who tries to wear out a Sigma will probably have finger problems long before he wears out his Sigma. My frigging finger hurts after a session of 200 rounds, with the 12 lbs. plus trigger pull.

Oh & evidently it only takes about 4000 rounds to break the striker spring. Just happened this week.
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I bet S&W will send you a new spring for it. Try that with a Taurus with their so called Lifetime Warranty at $60 a pop to send it in. They will ship it back to you for free and it may even be fixed and you may have it back after 2 months. They won't send parts nor pay shipping to them and you will probably have to use the warranty.
The US Army M9 (Beretta) will fall apart before it hits 30K rounds. I wonder if the SD's will last like a glock as far as the rifling with it having the Tennifer process.

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I don't know what that round count would be, but I'll bet that most people will get tired of the gun, and sell it, trade it, or just get something else, long before they reach that number.
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Glocks can take far more than 40,000 rounds. There are a few Glock pistols out there with documented round counts over 200,000.

I don't think anyone's ever torture tested a Sigma. You should give it a go! 10,000 rounds without a cleaning and the drop test from an aircraft should really put it through it's paces.
I done 5000 rounds without cleaning my 1911, loads vectan ba9 230 lrn starline+p and federal/magtech primers, so I think that a glock would probably have a lot more headspace giving the punyier caliber.

Regarding Glocks I have PPC collegues with Glock 17's counting several 100k rounds, they are army personel so it should be noted that we are talking swedish army ammo with a load that starts far above where standard 9mm ammoloads peaks, iron metal jackets, tombak plated, heavy core, nasty little buggers that doesnt break any sweat over a 30 layer kevlar targets. (The Swedish standard 9mm army ammo was a response to the Congo crisis where Swedish army personel needed more power than the ordinary 9mm Luger "BB"-gun loads.) Defying those facts the Glock barrels seems to take the punishment very well.

Only one of these colleagues had a glock 17 blow up that I know of, and this fellar's (High Master) glock with high probability exceeded over 1000k+ rounds.

On a personal note I don't particularly like tupperware, prefer a solid iron (read s&w), but I have to admit Glock's do tend being able to take a lot of punishment.

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