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Old 03-22-2012, 04:54 PM
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Hey everyone, so I was tinkering around with the SD9 yesterday and decided (while I was at home and the gun was unloaded without the magazine in) to put the gun inside my belt to try and conceal it and see how easily it could be spotted. It turned out that no matter where I moved the gun to I couldn't get the butt to stop poking at my shirt. Can anyone tell me if they carry the SD9 as a CCW and how well its hidden? Pictures would be better if at all possible. I'm going for my CC class on Sunday and was wondering, lol.
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i dont have any pictures but i use my sd9 as my main carry weapon with a crossbreed supertuck obviously body type will dictate how you conceal the best but i wear mine around 4 oclock
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Can you see the magazine poking at the back of your shirt or does it seem to fit well? I'm just trying to see if people have accepted that the weapon can't be totally concealed and worked around it or if people have found ways to conceal the sd. I also need to take a peek at the different concealed holsters.
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CC depends on body type if you have a waist you can carry anything as the pistol will lay flat against your body
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I carry my SD 9 in a IWB holster and you can't see it. I usually wear a polo shirt un-tucked as a cover garment.
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the only time i know the butt is visible is when i bend all they way down at my waist to pick something up again your body type will determine where you will conceal the best lots of choices out there just have to find the right one for you
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I've also found it hard to properly conceal my SD9. Despite my misleading handle, I'm fairly slim. I have a comp-tec mtac (similar to a crossbreed) and I've found that if I want to conceal the gun at 4 o'clock I have to have a pretty big forward cant otherwise the butt of the gun sticks out as soon as I bend forward.

I've found the most stealth is to have it all the way in the small of my back so the grip of the gun is almost touching my spine. Not the most optimum.

When I go to the range or I'm practicing drawing from concealment, I bite the bullet, put the gun at 4 o'clock and practice from there. It's where I would wear it in the winter time anyway.

I've also found that the higher the gun is, the more the grip is hidden as it lays in the natural arch of my back.

Either way I've decided it's not the best gun to try and hide with only a tshirt on, at least for me. It does give me an excuse to buy an M&P 9C! Or a Ruger LCR. Now there is a pocket gun.
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Have you tried OWB? I'm on slim side myself, discovered
Bianchi minimalist, holds my sigma (I know, not a SD, but still, 4 inch barrel, etc) high enough to keep barrel above shirt tail, and pulls close to body. Just thought I'd throw it out there...
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Have you tried OWB? I'm on slim side myself, discovered
Bianchi minimalist, holds my sigma (I know, not a SD, but still, 4 inch barrel, etc) high enough to keep barrel above shirt tail, and pulls close to body. Just thought I'd throw it out there...

I too have the Bianchi minimalist that I use for IDPA. It works for both my Sigma and SD.
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I carry a sigma as well . I use a owb fobus paddle holster . I wear it a lot just under a t shirt . No one even notices . You may if your specifically looking .But works for me and comfortable.
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Invest in a high quality IWB/OWB holster and belt for one, learn how to dress around it. Works well for any gun even N frame revolvers and 1911 full size, not just an SD. Body type has little to nothing to do with how well you conceal....high quality gear does.

Buy the best quality holster and belt you can afford, it will reward you many times over. Too many will buy a cheap generic nylon type holster and then are badly dis-appointed.

People that are new to Concealed Carry think that everyone is looking at them and they all know that you are carrying.......Not true at all! The only one that really knows is you! Most are totally oblivious to you and the rest of the world around them.

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Invest in a high quality IWB/OWB holster and belt for one, learn how to dress around it. Works well for any gun even N frame revolvers and 1911 full size, not just an SD. Body type has little to nothing to do with how well you conceal....high quality gear does.

Buy the best quality holster and belt you can afford, it will reward you many times over. Too many will buy a cheap generic nylon type holster and then are badly dis-appointed.

People that are new to Concealed Carry think that everyone is looking at them and they all know that you are carrying.......Not true at all! The only one that really knows is you! Most are totally oblivious to you and the rest of the world around them.

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Very True Took about a yr to get over it .
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Yeah I have one of the cheap nylon holsters right now for open carry and honestly it isnlt too too bad, its a Mad Dog and I have my complaints about it, but I could have ended up with worse. What does IWB/OWB stand for?
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I've owned my Sigma 9mm(about the same size as the SD9) for about 10yrs and have tried a few IWB holsters and most have just not worked or have been uncomfortable for me. I am constantly adjusting and feeling the gun "printing". I dont CCW this gun unless I really want to. I can carry it comfortable with a OWB Forbus quite well.

I recently purchased a M&P 40C and what a difference. Weight feels about the same, But the shorter slide and grips make a huge difference. I used the same Sigma IWB holsters and It carries extremely well and comfortable. No adjusting or "printing" and I can wear what ever I want when I CCW the M&P 40C. This is easily my #1 CCW. Size, 10+1 rounds and great accuracy.

Well worth the price of admission!

PS. I still won't part with my Sigma. Great for home defense. Just not versatile enough to CCW.
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Yeah I have one of the cheap nylon holsters right now for open carry and honestly it isnlt too too bad, its a Mad Dog and I have my complaints about it, but I could have ended up with worse. What does IWB/OWB stand for?
IWB= In the Waist Band(For concealed carry)

OWB= Outside the Waist Band(Holstered like a police officer)
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Ok I thought that's what it stood for but I wasn't going to assume anything. I've been carrying OWB but I'm honestly getting tired of getting funny looks from people and that's why I'm getting my CCL on Sunday. Its going to be a switch considering I was trained in BLET to draw from a OWB holster and fire and not from a IWB holster... nothing a bit of training can't overcome. Either way, I'm sure its possible to conceal the SD9, but I suppose I need to just try out the different holsters available and figure out the right position for it.
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Another thing to consider is changing how you dress. You cannot change your body type or make the gun any smaller than what it is, but you can buy a larger shirt pretty easily and cheaply. You do not need to wear a parka in the summertime, but polo or aloha shirts might do the trick. There are several nice “camp” shirts available with squared tails that fit the bill.

In my opinion, no matter how good a concealment holster is it must be paired with the appropriate belt to get the full advantage. It will take experimentation, trial & error, but it can be done.

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I have big 'ol bear paws so a compact firearm is going to have too small grips for me to hold the pistol well enough to fire as accurate as I'd like to otherwise I'd get one.
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I'm still stuck on lol. What is that, some kind of 12 yr old garbage. Maybe it's a woman thing. I'll ask my wife.
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I have big 'ol bear paws so a compact firearm is going to have too small grips for me to hold the pistol well enough to fire as accurate as I'd like to otherwise I'd get one.
There not that compact!

But, those pinky extensions and the larger backstraps Come in handy on the M&P compacts. Also, you can use the full size magazines with grip extensions and get the full size grip feeling. It's a bonus that also gives you a 17+1(9mm) capacity.

Just trying to persuade you to buy more guns.

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Oh I plan on it, lol but I always figured my next stop would be an early 1900's S&W revolver. I guess I gotta get some more brownie points with the old lady to convince her spending $600 on another pistol is ok. Lol
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What does that mean?
Sounds like the response from someone who's 80.

"I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for those meddling kids!"

lol

I have smaller hands and part of the meat of my palm doesn't fit on the M&P compact all of the way. Feels just fine now but I don't know if i'd want it if my hands were any bigger. While I haven't shot the M&P compact, The Ruger SR9C has a very similar feel in terms of grip length and same thing, I dont' know if I'd want one if my hands were too much bigger.
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Sounds like the response from someone who's 80.

"I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for those meddling kids!"

lol

I have smaller hands and part of the meat of my palm doesn't fit on the M&P compact all of the way. Feels just fine now but I don't know if i'd want it if my hands were any bigger. While I haven't shot the M&P compact, The Ruger SR9C has a very similar feel in terms of grip length and same thing, I dont' know if I'd want one if my hands were too much bigger.
I appreciate the wisdom given to me by being thought of as 80, but that's a long shot away from the truth. 22yrs young but you'd never tell by just talking to me.
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What's a thread without pictures! I took a few for comparison...Enjoy!

I just picked up a Streamlight TLR-4 at one of my favorite gun shops in town for $130 out the door. This a 110 Lumen LED rail light with the built in red laser. I can't wait till it gets dark to test it out.
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I carry mine on occasion, either a Crossbreed knockoff in regular casua clothes, or if a loose-fitting like flannel shirt, I have carried it in a cheap belt-slide. I agree with a previous, you may ahve to wear some different clothes, and summer may be a hard one to figure. I use a bellyband a lot in summer and I wouldn't carry my SD in one, no safety and the way it sits in a bellyband- I personally don't feel comfortable.
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As far as the pictures go, was that a m&p compact or regular size? And the sights on the gun, are they tritium? I've also been looking for a good tritium sight for the sd9 that's under $90.
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Believe it or not it's the compact. I'm getting ready to try a little "Dual Wield" on my next range trip.

I haven't gotten to purchasing some real trinium night sights yet, so I used a $3 hobby fluorescent paint from my wife's scrap book stuff. Pretty bright except I could use a real "Tru-Glow" sight up front.
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Yeah I need tritium for the sd, the gun at the local gun shop tried to sell me a laser but to be 100% honest, I'd rather be able to pick the gun up from the dead of sleep point it and know where it has to go rather than have to remember to flip on the laser.
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What? Ban who, me?
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Not you...just the use of "lol"

Of course I have no real power...just the power of suggestion.
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I appreciate the wisdom given to me by being thought of as 80, but that's a long shot away from the truth. 22yrs young but you'd never tell by just talking to me.
Sorry, I wasn't referring to you, I was attempting to answer your question. And I just made everything more confusing. And I'm looking for a way to interject lol. Lol.
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I use the inexpensive model "Sidekick Professional" from a company called Uncle Mikes. It's the open style without the retention strap. Very comfortable.
I use the size 15 and cut a slit on the end so my barrel slips through just a bit allowing the gun to seat a little further into the holster.




I'm tired of carrying inside the pants during the hot months. I will be using the waist pack when I feel the need to carry.

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My nephew worked in L.E. for awhile and one day (when he was off duty) everyone piled in the car and drove to Dairy Queen for an after dinner treat. While he was standing in line several children (other peoples children) got a little rowdy and one lad got bumped into my nephews back, right where his piece was holstered. Ow!!!
As the story goes, my nephew got a really dirty look from that kid.

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OBW/IBW there is a huge difference in he comfort of carry.
A SD9 as a concealed weapon to carry is to heavy for me. I'll think a SD9 is a great tool but for carry on a daily base?
Smaller weapons pulling not so much and honestly if 9-11 and a second 10 rounds don't help than you are in big trouble anyway.

For Cary is a M&P shield or Taurus PT740........ IMHO big enough.

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This is what I wear I'm 6'2" and 230lbs. This thread has a picture of mine on. I cary an SD40VE daily and it is hidden whether my shirt is tucked or untucked. I even wear it playing golf with no problems. I also carry it at around the 430-5 o'clock position.

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I carry mine OWB in a "Bulldog Cases" Belt Slide (large) which is a leather pancake style holster that holds it tightly agains you "BOD".

On ocassion it's carried in an Uncle Mike's IWB holster.

Loose (read baggy) shirts are comfortable and hide said rigs.
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I use a sticky-holster from Sticky Holsters | Redefining Concealment
There are various ways to carry with it. You can adjust the cant and depth any way you need to. Works great for me and my SD40VE. I have even carried a Glock 20 with it.

I also have a remora holster but I find the sticky much more comfortable especially when against bare skin.

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I have carried my SD9 for a year now in a FOXX IWB tuckable holster. I know what you mean about the butt end of the gun poking out, to combat this I tuck my shirt in and with the natural gathering you get from the tuck it provides room for the handle to be hid. If I wear it with my sirt untucked it does poke a little more, but most likely no one will be looking, or know what that poke is. It certainly is not in the shape of a gun. Get a good leather/kydex hybrid holster and try tucking or other methods of dress and it will work great for you. Great gun, great to carry, at times a little heavy, but always comforting.
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I've never liked IWB holsters, they just never were comfortable to me.

I carry a full size (5") 1911 45 auto. I have several OWB holsters that work well for me; a 3 slot pancake works best, but I have others that work well too.

Just picked up an SD9VE and so far the only holster I have is the Blackhawk CQC Serpa. I am very pleased with this holster for now, but until I get more rounds through the SD to be comfortable, I'm not going to spend any more money on holsters for it. I have my sights on the DeSantis that is made for the SD series, but at $50, I'll wait a bit.

I'm always conscience of carrying my 1911, but unless someone is really looking, no one knows I'm carrying but me. And during summer/warm weather I only wear a t-shirt. White doesn't conceal as well as darker colors, you'll eventually find things that work for you, and you'll become more comfortable in the process.
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