Will M&P sights work on a SD9VE

badjuijui · #1 06-10-2013, 12:45 PM

I should say, would the sights below work?

TruGlo Tritium Fiber Optic Brite-Site Handgun Sight For Smith and Wesson M&P

GKC · #2 06-10-2013, 01:39 PM

I can tell you that the rear sight for the M&P 9 (full size) fits on a SD9VE, because I just put one on. If the regular rear sight for a M&P 9 fits the SD9VE, then an aftermarket sight for the M&P 9 should fit the SD9VE as well, at least the rear sight.

I don't know about the fit of the front sight, but someone else here might. I also don't know about the fit on a SW9VE or the original SD9.

Jyezahn · #3 06-10-2013, 02:27 PM

Yes they do.

3hounds · #4 06-10-2013, 02:46 PM

If you look in the description it say's SD 9 and SD 40.

Smith & Wesson | Gun Parts by Gun Make & Model

I don't think the shield sights fit though.

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badjuijui · #5 06-10-2013, 02:50 PM

my white dots are already coming out. My son wants me to let him paint the back sights orange and keep the front white. The sights I asked about are rather expensive and not sure if they are worth it, but wanted to make doggone sure they fit in case I buy them. I guess I missed the part about fitting a SD9 because I can't find it anywhere on the website I looked at.

3hounds · #6 06-10-2013, 02:53 PM

Yeah some websites suck for descriptions and specs.

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GKC · #7 06-10-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

my white dots are already coming out. My son wants me to let him paint the back sights orange and keep the front white. The sights I asked about are rather expensive and not sure if they are worth it, but wanted to make doggone sure they fit in case I buy them. I guess I missed the part about fitting a SD9 because I can't find it anywhere on the website I looked at.

IMO, night sights aren't all that worthwhile, and I've had a few. It'd be a lot better to have a good light, or laser, than night sights...especially considering that once you fire the first shot in the dark, your night vision is pretty much going to be gone. Night sights are kinda cool to look at, but not worth the extra expense....again, IMO.

Putting the M&P 9 rear sight on my SD9VE was definitely worth it, IMO...it's a much better sight than the plastic one that comes on the SD9VE. I didn't replace the OEM front sight as it is metal, and has an inset white dot.

badjuijui · #8 06-10-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GKC

IMO, night sights aren't all that worthwhile, and I've had a few. It'd be a lot better to have a good light, or laser, than night sights...especially considering that once you fire the first shot in the dark, your night vision is pretty much going to be gone. Night sights are kinda cool to look at, but not worth the extra expense....again, IMO.

Putting the M&P 9 rear sight on my SD9VE was definitely worth it, IMO...it's a much better sight than the plastic one that comes on the SD9VE. I didn't replace the OEM front sight as it is metal, and has an inset white dot.

Ok, thanks for the insight. The inset white dot is what just came out of mine. I didn't even notice that the front is metal and the back is plastic.

badjuijui · #9 06-10-2013, 04:10 PM

Putting the M&P 9 rear sight on my SD9VE was definitely worth it, IMO...it's a much better sight than the plastic one that comes on the SD9VE. I didn't replace the OEM front sight as it is metal, and has an inset white dot.[/QUOTE]

Do you think I could put JP Weld in the front site then paint it white?

GKC · #10 06-10-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

Do you think I could put JP Weld in the front site then paint it white?

I suppose you could, but before I would do that, I'd contact S&W customer service...they will either send you a shipping label to send it in for them to replace it, or send you a front sight free, if you want to have it done locally or try it yourself. I don't think I'd send it in just to have the front sight replaced...if there were no other issues...S&W is pretty fast but still it will be a couple of weeks, I'm guessing. If that doesn't bother you, then letting them do it is the best route.

If you do send it in, be sure to remove any aftermarket parts and accessories...or you may not get them back. S&W tends to return guns to OEM condition when you send them in.

badjuijui · #11 06-10-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GKC

I suppose you could, but before I would do that, I'd contact S&W customer service...they will either send you a shipping label to send it in for them to replace it, or send you a front sight free, if you want to have it done locally or try it yourself. I don't think I'd send it in just to have the front sight replaced...if there were no other issues...S&W is pretty fast but still it will be a couple of weeks, I'm guessing. If that doesn't bother you, then letting them do it is the best route.

If you do send it in, be sure to remove any aftermarket parts and accessories...or you may not get them back. S&W tends to return guns to OEM condition when you send them in.

Smith and Wesson CS told me to scrape out the sight, clean with alcohol, then replace with either acrylic paint or white fingernail polish and let dry overnight.

Derosa · #12 06-10-2013, 05:52 PM

I just noticed - well looked - my white sight fell out/off whatever after my range time yesterday. Time for some day glow paint and a toothpick.

GKC · #13 06-10-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

Smith and Wesson CS told me to scrape out the sight, clean with alcohol, then replace with either acrylic paint or white fingernail polish and let dry overnight.

Well, I suppose you could do that...but I think I would be asking to speak to a manager (politely) and see if he or she wouldn't give you a different/better answer. You shouldn't have to do that to your sight, and this is apparently a common enough problem that S&W needs to address it.

badjuijui · #14 06-10-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GKC

IMO, night sights aren't all that worthwhile, and I've had a few. It'd be a lot better to have a good light, or laser, than night sights...especially considering that once you fire the first shot in the dark, your night vision is pretty much going to be gone. Night sights are kinda cool to look at, but not worth the extra expense....again, IMO.

Putting the M&P 9 rear sight on my SD9VE was definitely worth it, IMO...it's a much better sight than the plastic one that comes on the SD9VE. I didn't replace the OEM front sight as it is metal, and has an inset white dot.

I am so confused after talking to CS at Smith and Wesson. The dude told first told me that M&P sights would not work on the SD9ve. I called to get a price on the rear sight. I told him that I talked to someone that had done it, and he said let me check with a fellow that knows more than me. When he came back, he said according to their specs, the front sights are interchangeable, but not the back! I just thanked him and hung up. I'm not sure what specs they were looking at. Where did you buy your back sights, if you don't mind telling me?

GKC · #15 06-10-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

I am so confused after talking to CS at Smith and Wesson. The dude told first told me that M&P sights would not work on the SD9ve. I called to get a price on the rear sight. I told him that I talked to someone that had done it, and he said let me check with a fellow that knows more than me. When he came back, he said according to their specs, the front sights are interchangeable, but not the back! I just thanked him and hung up. I'm not sure what specs they were looking at. Where did you buy your back sights, if you don't mind telling me?

This isn't the first example of some reps not knowing what they are talking about. There was a thread here not long ago where a member was advised by a CS rep that SW9VE mags would NOT work in a SD9VE. Also, I think he was also told that he couldn't get the SD9VE base plates, and even if he could, they wouldn't fit.

I spoke to a S&W rep who sent me two base plates for free, and they most definitely do fit, and they work (SD9VE base plate on a SW9VE magazine.)

As for the rear sight, I ordered mine from MidwayUSA. When I got it, it didn't have the set screw with it. Apparently they are a separate item. So, I called S&W, and they sent me two set screws...again, for free. I guess I am just lucky when I call S&W...or they recognize my fine, upstanding character!

The rear sight drifted out and then the M&P sight drifted in with a punch. There is a video on YouTube showing it being done, but I don't have a sight pusher, so I had to do mine slowly and carefully with a punch. It's done on a 40, but the procedure is the same:

S&W SD40VE Sight Replacement - YouTube

GKC · #16 06-10-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

Smith and Wesson CS told me to scrape out the sight, clean with alcohol, then replace with either acrylic paint or white fingernail polish and let dry overnight.

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Originally Posted by Derosa

I just noticed - well looked - my white sight fell out/off whatever after my range time yesterday. Time for some day glow paint and a toothpick.

I wonder if putting some clear, acrylic nail polish or something similar (or super glue) over the white dot would keep it from falling out in the first place?

Jyezahn · #17 06-10-2013, 11:59 PM

I have both an M&P40c and an SD9VE. The sights are interchangeable.

badjuijui · #18 06-11-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GKC

I wonder if putting some clear, acrylic nail polish or something similar (or super glue) over the white dot would keep it from falling out in the first place?

Sounds plausible and worth a try.

badjuijui · #19 06-11-2013, 10:11 AM

Talked to a more knowledgeable CS agent today. He asked for my serial number, and then told me that my back sights are metal. He is correct. Evidently Smith changed after getting complaints about the back sight being plastic. If I were a SD9VE owner with the old plastic back sight, I would call and ask for a metal one. Anyway, he also told me that the front and back sights of the M&P will work on my weapon, and the truglo sights will work on it also. Any aftermarket sights for m and p will work on the sd9ve. They are dovetailed the same way.

badjuijui · #20 06-11-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyezahn

I have both an M&P40c and an SD9VE. The sights are interchangeable.

I just found that out from CS. Did your M&P come with night sights? If so, do you like them better than the sights on the SD9VE?

GKC · #21 06-11-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

Talked to a more knowledgeable CS agent today. He asked for my serial number, and then told me that my back sights are metal. He is correct. Evidently Smith changed after getting complaints about the back sight being plastic.

That's strange...the rear sight that came on my SD9VE was polymer, and the test fire date of my gun was 2/1/2013. Of course, I guess it could have been made a while before it was test fired...or, the change to a metal rear sight could have been made on 2/2/2013...

I like the M&P rear sight better, anyway...it just looks like a better sight, since the dots are recessed and not just painted on a flat surface.

badjuijui · #22 06-11-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GKC

That's strange...the rear sight that came on my SD9VE was polymer, and the test fire date of my gun was 2/1/2013. Of course, I guess it could have been made a while before it was test fired...or, the change to a metal rear sight could have been made on 2/2/2013...

I like the M&P rear sight better, anyway...it just looks like a better sight, since the dots are recessed and not just painted on a flat surface.

He did say the change was recent. And I agree that the recessed dots are better when they are in.

3hounds · #23 06-11-2013, 02:02 PM

I took a dremel to my rear poly sight.

I put 2 grooves on top of the sight the full length and epoxied 2 fiber optic rods in the grooves.

I used devcon epoxy clear.

I've shot two boxes since and so far there holding up.

Huge difference with the fiber optic rods.

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Jyezahn · #24 06-11-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

I just found that out from CS. Did your M&P come with night sights? If so, do you like them better than the sights on the SD9VE?

No, I did not get night sights on my M&P. I plan on it though.

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Originally Posted by GKC

That's strange...the rear sight that came on my SD9VE was polymer, and the test fire date of my gun was 2/1/2013. Of course, I guess it could have been made a while before it was test fired...or, the change to a metal rear sight could have been made on 2/2/2013...

I like the M&P rear sight better, anyway...it just looks like a better sight, since the dots are recessed and not just painted on a flat surface.

My SD9VE has a polymer rear sight, and it was test fired March 13th. Pretty sure the change was made VERY recently. Not like it'd be a difficult change to make at all.

badjuijui · #25 06-11-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyezahn

No, I did not get night sights on my M&P. I plan on it though.

My SD9VE has a polymer rear sight, and it was test fired March 13th. Pretty sure the change was made VERY recently. Not like it'd be a difficult change to make at all.

Mine was test fired April 23rd, so you just missed it, evidently.

GKC · #26 06-22-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyezahn

Not like it'd be a difficult change to make at all.

It's not...if I can do it, anyone can. I just tapped the polymer rear sight out with a punch, and then tapped the M&P rear sight back in (first with a small hammer with a nylon head on it) and then tapped it until centered with a punch. (I don't have a sight pusher...I could have taken it to my LGS and they would have done it, but I wanted to try it...and I figured they could always finish the job if I couldn't.) I went slow and took my time, and then set it with the screw.

Jyezahn · #27 06-23-2013, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GKC

It's not...if I can do it, anyone can. I just tapped the polymer rear sight out with a punch, and then tapped the M&P rear sight back in (first with a small hammer with a nylon head on it) and then tapped it until centered with a punch. (I don't have a sight pusher...I could have taken it to my LGS and they would have done it, but I wanted to try it...and I figured they could always finish the job if I couldn't.) I went slow and took my time, and then set it with the screw.

I was referring to the change in production at the factory.

I've tapped my sights off and on to polish my slide, with no problems at all.

GKC · #28 06-23-2013, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyezahn

I was referring to the change in production at the factory.

Ah...duh.

Henry Killinger · #29 06-23-2013, 09:50 PM

Has anyone who has installed either the factory M&P rear sight or after market sights for the M&P on the sd series noticed any difference in the point of aim after installation. Specifically, any elevation issues? Front sight height etc.

Tommytom092971 · #30 06-24-2013, 07:01 PM

Another answer from s&w. customer service told me that the m&p sights will fit on the sd9ve however the sd9ve is not the same height as the m&p, so it will make your sights off a bit. Do know.
Maybe some body else will know that answer.

Jyezahn · #31 06-24-2013, 08:16 PM

The front sights are the same height (both dot and tip of the sight) on both my M&P40c and my SD9VE. The rear sight on my SD9VE is the same physical height as my M&P40c rear sight, BUT the dots on the SD9VE are slightly higher and smaller. I can't say more than that because my sight picture for both guns is slightly different simply because one slide is much shorter than the other.

EBK · #32 06-24-2013, 08:44 PM

I have installed a set of M&P Ameriglo Night sights on my SD40 VE I ordered them from DVOR cost was 70 bucks shipped. Green front Yellow rear installed with little fitting and did not change Point of Impact or Point of Aim.

Will Post pics for proof of install when I get home

EBK · #33 07-03-2013, 12:33 AM

Sorry about the delay forgot I had posted in this thread here are the pics I promised

3hounds · #34 07-03-2013, 04:37 AM

Nice, real nice sights, thanks for the pics.

Nothing says it like pics.

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armallard · #35 07-11-2013, 02:12 PM

Those look good. For now I just painted mine with finger nail polish the rear with orange and the front with neon green they seem better than the white to me.If they don't last then I'll upgrade

Trenchcoat Vampire · #36 07-11-2013, 02:19 PM

Is that an SW9F 17 round magazine?

EDIT: er, since it's a SD40VE...probably not.

modraker · #37 07-12-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Trenchcoat Vampire

Is that an SW9F 17 round magazine?

EDIT: er, since it's a SD40VE...probably not.

I once had a SW40F and that sure looks like the 15-round magazine that came with the gun.

EBK · #38 07-13-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by modraker

I once had a SW40F and that sure looks like the 15-round magazine that came with the gun.

Correct it is the 15 round SW40F mag

Irishshooter7 · #39 10-12-2014, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by badjuijui

Talked to a more knowledgeable CS agent today. He asked for my serial number, and then told me that my back sights are metal. He is correct. Evidently Smith changed after getting complaints about the back sight being plastic. If I were a SD9VE owner with the old plastic back sight, I would call and ask for a metal one. Anyway, he also told me that the front and back sights of the M&P will work on my weapon, and the truglo sights will work on it also. Any aftermarket sights for m and p will work on the sd9ve. They are dovetailed the same way.

I just received email from Truglo: About their sights NOT working on SD9VE.

Thank you for this e-mail.

At this time, we do not offer sights for the S&W SD9VE pistol and do not recommend the modification of any other sight set for use on this platform.

We are always evaluating new firearms for additions to our product line.

Your email will be forwarded to our engineering department for consideration.

Thank you for taking the time to contact us with this request.

Shoot safely,

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brchambersjr · #40 10-12-2014, 09:53 PM

That's funny, I have these on my SD9VE and they fit just fine.

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N8365r · #41 06-20-2017, 02:29 PM

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I just received email from Truglo: About their sights NOT working on SD9VE.

Thank you for this e-mail.

At this time, we do not offer sights for the S&W SD9VE pistol and do not recommend the modification of any other sight set for use on this platform.

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Hi everyone, I am a little late to the party. Got my SD9VE on June 13, 2017. I got the exact same email response on June 19, 2017. Still debating putting Truglo night sites on my gun. Like it was stated before, after the first shot in the dark you may not be able to pick up the sites, once your night vision has changed because of the flash.

mpreusse13 · #42 06-20-2017, 02:39 PM

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Hi everyone, I am a little late to the party. Got my SD9VE on June 13, 2017. I got the exact same email response on June 19, 2017. Still debating putting Truglo night sites on my gun. Like it was stated before, after the first shot in the dark you may not be able to pick up the sites, once your night vision has changed because of the flash.

I've got a set of Tru-glo m&p sights in my sd9ve with no issues. All m&p sights fit the sd9ve

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