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Old 12-13-2013, 11:17 PM
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I finally finished the upgrades to the SD40VE I traded for.

I used Mothers Mag polish and my dremel polishing wheel to buff the feed ramp to a mirror shine.
I put on some grips from tractiongrips.com for $8.99 delivered and really like them.
I installed the spring kit from Apex tactical and that thing is magic.
Also added night sights from XS Big Dots from E-Bay for $85.00.
Luv em! Only took about 20 mins to install. Everything you need is in the kit including lock-tite and a polymer drift punch.

I liked the Apex Spring Kit so much that I ordered their SD trigger from Brownell's instead of Apex because they were much closer. That's when I ran into trouble.

My model was made August 2013. After installing the trigger the pistol would not dry fire. I almost couldn't get the slide back off. Somehow I managed it. (I spoke with Scott over at Apex afterwards and he explained if that happens you can remove the end plate, take out the striker and then the slide comes off easy.)
Great customer service from them I might add. Scott even offered to install it for me if I mailed my gun to him. I didn't want to wait and be without.

There is a link on their website to a forum post that explains how to "LIGHTLY" file the back of the trigger to make it work. (http://*******/1a3rKH9) Apparently this is necessary on some models due to some variations in manufacturing.

I also had serious trouble getting my trigger pivot pin in and out. Sometimes it took 30 minutes to get it out. I followed the video from Apex's website but had to push the pivot pin from the opposite direction as outlined in the video to remove it. I also looked at the video at Galloway Precision. They used a brass punch just to knock it out. I tried that and mine wouldn't budge and I was afraid I was going to damage my gun. So I stuck with the Apex method. Scott from Apex said some are easy to remove and some are not. Apparently it varies quite a bit.

I did a partial assembly with a slave pin after filing the trigger. I did not put the slide back on because I was worried it would get stuck again. I incorrectly assumed the sear would drop after pulling the trigger to check for proper operation after sanding the trigger. When it wouldn't, I kept sanding. Come to find out, it won't until re-assembled.

Also the blade safety on the trigger was catching on the frame ever so slightly when pulled. It was then that I made the call to Apex.
They were very helpful but by then I had had enough. I decided to stick with the factory trigger and the Apex Spring kit only. I prefer the way the factory trigger feels over the Apex trigger anyway.

Brownell's has a no questions asked return policy so I'm sending the Apex Trigger back. Apparently most people don't have the kind of problems with the Apex trigger that I did.

All in all, I'm very happy with the way the gun turned out and learned much about it through this process. The only other mod I'm considering is the Galloway Precision 22lb stainless steel recoil spring. Now I need to get to the range this weekend and put some rounds through it. Can't wait.



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Old 12-16-2013, 10:29 AM
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glad it worked out well! i cant wait to check the mail for my spring kit
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I'm digging those sights. Sorry to hear about your trigger woes.

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Thanks for all the info Steve. But now I'm a bit nervous since I have the AET trigger on the way after reading your review. I opted for the trigger instead of the spring kit since I've heard a few people talk about light hammer strikes. So my question to you is do you think with some filing the trigger would be reliable at the range and for self defense? I have 1200 rounds through my Sd9ve with only one FTFeed. I don't want to reduce the reliability of my HD pistol.
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To each his own, and no criticism of anyone intended, but this is why I leave my SD9VE alone, except for "cosmetic" changes. Well, I have changed the rear sight with the M&P rear sight which is steel, and I did get the Galloway stainless steel guide rod (17 pounds) but I'm thinking about getting the 20 pound one just to see the difference. (I think the stock recoil assembly is 18 pounds.) I also added a Hogue grip sleeve. If they ever offer a slide cover plate with a design on it, I'll get that...as well as a frame plug.

I'm not planning on messing with the fire control group. The heavy trigger doesn't bother me, and in fact I rather like it on a pistol with no external safety. Mine is smoothing out; sure it's not 1911 smooth, but then it's not a 1911.
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BTW - has anyone noticed that Cabela's has the SD on sale? Good grief. I might need to visit them again. (I am on a first name basis at the credit card payment booth.)
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Thanks for all the info Steve. But now I'm a bit nervous since I have the AET trigger on the way after reading your review. I opted for the trigger instead of the spring kit since I've heard a few people talk about light hammer strikes. So my question to you is do you think with some filing the trigger would be reliable at the range and for self defense? I have 1200 rounds through my Sd9ve with only one FTFeed. I don't want to reduce the reliability of my HD pistol.
I think with careful filing you'll be fine. It seems many don't even need filing. My mistake was filing and not re-assembling after each time for function check. And the reason was I was having a lot of trouble getting the trigger pivot pin in and out.

I've only heard a few comments about light strikes. Most seem to have no trouble. Hopefully I'll find some time to run mine through it's paces this weekend. I'll keep ya posted.
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I think with careful filing you'll be fine. It seems many don't even need filing. My mistake was filing and not re-assembling after each time for function check. And the reason was I was having a lot of trouble getting the trigger pivot pin in and out.

I've only heard a few comments about light strikes. Most seem to have no trouble. Hopefully I'll find some time to run mine through it's paces this weekend. I'll keep ya posted.
I installed the apex polymer aek trigger in my sd9ve yesterday. I had to do quite a but of filing to get proper operation. With no filing the gun would dry fire 6/10 pulls and they had to fast jerking pulls. A slower clean pull would not rerelease the firing pin. I do like trigger now that it's operating correctly and would recommend it. One piece of advice I would recommend when installing is note how far the stock trigger pushes the trigger bar back in its cavity and mark it. This will let you know how much you have to take off the aek trigger to make sure it will release the pin. This will keep you from having to disassemble multiple times to test proper operation.
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Thanks for the info, first timer here and I love my sd40ve, looking forward to installing spring kit in mine!!


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I can never understand why people like a gun and buy it then go though so many changes to change it. I like mine they way it is have no ftf or any other problems.So if you want it like a Glock buy a Glock.I would never want to take a chance on a ftf with a gun I carry for sd so I don't mess with a good firing gun.But that is just my opinion.
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^^^ I'm glad you like your gun the way it is, but remember that everyone is different and has different needs/likes/wants in a firearm. We don't "mess" with them, we tailor them to our individual preferences. Custom parts can always be removed and original parts replaced if the tailoring doesn't go as planned. BTW, I bought a Glock and had to customize it, too.

I sincerely hope you never suffer an injury, contract an illness, or lose part of your eyesight. But if you do, you might have to tailor your weapons to suit your needs, and I hope you find compassionate people to help you.
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So I am new to this site and even to a forum in general so if Im doing something wrong let me know.


As an owner of a SD40 I want to accessorize it! reading posts about grips, springs and triggers are awesome and gonna do it but.... is there a seperate top slide available? would like to switch out to a flat black or black if they manufacture? Heard of such an animal?
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As an owner of a SD40 I want to accessorize it! reading posts about grips, springs and triggers are awesome and gonna do it but.... is there a seperate top slide available? would like to switch out to a flat black or black if they manufacture? Heard of such an animal?
The SD40 does have a black slide! If yours is matte stainless, someone either blasted the finish off or switched it with an SD40VE slide. Get a rope!

To answer your question, no one sells replacement slides but you can have yours refinished. There are many products on the market (cerakote, aluma-hyde, gun kote, etc.) and they come in a wide range of colors. Take your pick!

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The trigger is so much smoother now since I installed mine
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I have read, youtubed quite a few different scenarios for lightening the pull on the SDseries. I have a 3 1/2 lb striker spring from Wolff. On the packaging there is a caveat advising that the light primer strikes could result in ftfire. Apex seems like the best route to go with the kit, adding the Galloway sear spring along the way to the overhaul. I'll let you know how it all measures up when installed.
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I want to install the apex in my so bad I have seen the videos in YouTube look very straight forward but I don't want to ruin my gun.

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So I was wondering if the m&p xs big dot sights worked on the 40 sd ve. If they do, do they function okay for shot placement and alignment!
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So I was wondering if the m&p xs big dot sights worked on the 40 sd ve. If they do, do they function okay for shot placement and alignment!
Any M&P sights will work on the SD series. They use the same dovetail mounts.

I installed mine myself. It does seem to be shooting a inch or two low and left but that could just be me. I'm going to have my smith bore sight it just to be sure. I really like these sights. They are designed for defensive use, not target shooting. But at defensive ranges they are excellent.

Also, six o'clock hold is incorrect for these sights. Your suppose to cover the target with your front sight. Dot the "I" sight picture.
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So there is no difference in the mp sights when ordering as far as slide lock up and fit? I saw both options for the mp shield and mp core I don't wanna order the wrong one
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So there is no difference in the mp sights when ordering as far as slide lock up and fit? I saw both options for the mp shield and mp core I don't wanna order the wrong one
I can't speak to the shield but the dove tails on the M&P and the SD series are the same. I'm not sure how sights would effect the slide lock up. Never heard that one. But a quick call to XS Sight Systems and I'm sure they would clarify.

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The M&P Shield and CORE use different sights than the standard line. Those sights are not compatible with the SD series.

You want sights for the M&P FS, C, L, or non-CORE Pro series. All those are the same and fit the SD just fine.

I put Wilson sights on my M&P and so I put the rear sight that I took of it on my SD. I'm sure the stock plastic sight would have worked fine but I already had the spare M&P sight sitting around so it was a free upgrade.
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Glad you like your upgrades enjoy!!! i did my own trigger job and got rid of over half inch of free play in the trigger for less than 4 dollars over 3 months ago and 500 rounds still works great if your intrested shoot me a line we can swap numbers and ill explane it. very simple to do takes 5 minutes. shoot safe and alot!!!
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Glad you like your upgrades enjoy!!! i did my own trigger job and got rid of over half inch of free play in the trigger for less than 4 dollars over 3 months ago and 500 rounds still works great if your intrested shoot me a line we can swap numbers and ill explane it. very simple to do takes 5 minutes. shoot safe and alot!!!
Was that with the stock trigger or the apex trigger? and how is the reset? I put a apex trigger and spring kit in my 9 - it took a while to get it to work but I do like it except for the damn reset. It has to go absolutely all the way forward or you end up short stroking. The apex system would be great if you could just shorten the reset.
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Hi Steve great info thanks! say could you tell how you applied the motherd to the feed ramp, think I read somewhere you CAN over do it.

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To each his own, and no criticism of anyone intended, but this is why I leave my SD9VE alone, except for "cosmetic" changes. Well, I have changed the rear sight with the M&P rear sight which is steel, and I did get the Galloway stainless steel guide rod (17 pounds) but I'm thinking about getting the 20 pound one just to see the difference. (I think the stock recoil assembly is 18 pounds.) I also added a Hogue grip sleeve. If they ever offer a slide cover plate with a design on it, I'll get that...as well as a frame plug.

I'm not planning on messing with the fire control group. The heavy trigger doesn't bother me, and in fact I rather like it on a pistol with no external safety. Mine is smoothing out; sure it's not 1911 smooth, but then it's not a 1911.
Two THUMBS UP on the Hogue grip sleeve!! Make sure you get the large size one, though: pretty tough to get on, but well worth the effort, IMHO.
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That was with the stock trigger got some locktite gel super glue. And glued that hinge in the middle of the stock trigger closed lol works great... U can test it first just pull the hinge closed w/o pulling the trigger all the free play gone and no file needed lol.... still resets in the same place i just dont notice it anymore. Combined that lil trigger trick with the Galloway springs, and SS 17lb. guide rod. SWEET lol. next im doing Truglo night sights, hogue grip sleeve, and gettin a uncle mikes #15 LEO holster and im done upgrading for now. about 500 rounds thru it trigger function is still perfect.... way i see it glue ever does come loose i'll redo it or order the after market one.

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So...and forgive me if this is covered elsewhere, I'm on my mobile, but you just removed the only external safety on a self defense budget weapon. No thanks...

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No need to forgive... I misspoke the other safety is between my ears

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Why not just get an apex trigger and leave the drop safety in place

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actually i planned on getting one.... still do. thought id try this first it works well sooo ill leave it till i get the apex. i treat this gun as all others my finger never touches the trigger till the sights are on target and ive made the decision to shoot.
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And if you drop it? Best safety is between the ears, no doubt about it.
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Hi Steve great info thanks! say could you tell how you applied the motherd to the feed ramp, think I read somewhere you CAN over do it.

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I just used my dremel and a polishing attachment.
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I want to install the apex in my so bad I have seen the videos in YouTube look very straight forward but I don't want to ruin my gun.

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I install the spring kit and the apex. This is my first gun and I have never worked on one before. I have to say it's more difficult than the YouTube videos make it seem. When I was doing mine I removed the sear housing block and springs and pieces when flying haha. In the video he just hammers the pin out and pulls it out nice and easy but there isn't a way at least in my SD40ve model to pull out the pin and remove the sear housing without the springs coming apart. However it actually is relatively easy to figure out how to reassemble it, (at least for me anyway) to put it back together. I thought for certain after having the sear pieces go flying I had ruined it but, with some patience I'm confident you can make it happen. I love the apex trigger. I didn't dislike the stock trigger but I would recommend the apex. It just has a better feel to it. I think but I could have certainly lived with the stock one if I wasn't feeling frisky enough to swap it. soooo long story short give it a shot. It would be with it. And I figure worst case scenario I have to send it in. Can't imagine I would mess it up so bad they couldn't fix it haha.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:27 AM
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I was searching through eBay for different things for my sd40ve and came across some pretty cool cosmetic things you can do. Just curious if anyone has installed any of these kind of grips. It looks awesome but really like the feel of the gun now in my hand and don't want to spend 40 to make it look cool if it doesn't feel right cus that's much more important. Also it just looks like I piece of scate board grip tape. It says rubber but not sure what it is exactly. Any Better explanation and/or recommendations to get this. Thanks
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:26 PM
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I was thinking with my new guide rod and 20lb recoil spring that if I was able to replace the barrel with maybe a 5 inch barrel that it would really be a dream to shoot! Does the SD40VE have the option to upgrade to a 5 inch barrel?
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