I just bought a few boxes of steel cased 9 ammo for my sd9ve. I was wondering if any of you guys had used steel cased and how it performed compared to brass. Thanks.

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-Haven't used the steel cased ammo, but my SD40 VE eats Blazer aluminum cased ammo without a hiccup...

L8R,
Matt

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Lots and lots and lots. Some people have problems, some don't. Try it and see.

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I have driven out a few of the coated steel cases, but there was no pattern to which guns had trouble. Most didn't.
None of the eastern bloc military pistols had any trouble with steel cases.

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I used to be really nervous about using steel cased ammo until I noticed one of my fellow shooters at a steel shoot, who happens to be a gunsmith, happily blazing away with all Russian manufactured, all steel cased ammo out of his Glock 19. True, he is a gunsmith and can fix his own problems, but I figured if it didn't concern him, it shouldn't concern him. Additionally, my CZ-82 (9mm Makarov) has only had steel cased ammo fired through it, and I've never experienced any problems.

Best of luck,

Dave

I don't trust Tula,9mm,380 and 45acp all had problems mainly failure to fire.

Thanks for all the input. I shot about 150 rounds through today and had about 3-4 failure to feeds so I think ill be sticking with brass from now on.

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Had no issues with the steel ammo I've shot, including Brown Bear from mother Russia. Shot 250 rounds of the stuff with no issues other than my pistol being a little dirtier than normal after my range session. Apparently this is caused by the primer, and not the casing, although I wonder if that coating on the cases doesn't have an impact...


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I've heard this happens because steel cases don't expand to fit the chamber as tightly as brass cases do, and a small amount of gas leaks past them. I don't think it has anything to do with the primers. JMHO

My cz 85db in 9mm luger using wolf steel cased ammo with 3' of Kentucky windage I can ping anything on the 100yard berm. I use steel cased ammo in my Saigas in 223, sks in 7,62x39 & 45acp never a problem yet.

ive shot wolf and tula out of my SD40ve. ate em all like a fat kid at a buffet

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I've used Monarch, Tula and Wolf steel and never had any problems.

the only steel cased stuff i've ever used has all been Tula, in 9mm, .380 , and .223, but with the couple hundred rounds i've fired of it, i've never had one hiccup. I'll continue to use it, whenever i can get it.

I found Tulammo at wally world for $10.73 when 9mm was hard to find. Had to try it. I have now shot it a lot & other than it being dirty ( I mean to your hands ) I can not tell when I am shooting it or Federal or Winchester.
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Here a thread I started talking about it

Was told not to use this ammo

I just got back from the range... Fired a box of Tula, and had no issues at all.

I've shot some of the WPA ammo through my SD9VE with no problems, but it did have some issues in my SCCY CPX-2. Another reason I've made my SD9VE my EDC.

Just ate up around 300 rds of Tula 9mm through a 5906 and a Glock 19. No issues.

I used to buy 500 rd cases of Wolf .45 when I was shooting my 1911's a lot. I can't recall ever having a problem. I'm assuming that in the future, people will look at brass cases the way we look at brass shotgun shells and Sony Walkmans.

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Stuff jammed my gun real good when I first got it, been running it with brass inbetween, it seems to work. The stuff i have some type of coating that may stick when teh gun gets hot...

your mileage may vary, anyone want this stuff?

I've always been told to stay away from cheap bullets like Wolf and Tulammo. I'm currently using American Eagle 124 grain FMJ, and Winchester 115 grain FMJ. No problems with either of these two.

alot of ranges dont like steel cases or core ammo. they ban it. i have no issues with either when it comes to reliably feeding

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I've had ZERO problems with any brand of steel cased ammo in any of my S&W SD9-VE's or any other brand of 9mm semi-auto or revolver.

Yes, I have a Charter Arms CARR 9mm revolver.

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I have been told not to shoot it due to the thickness of the copper coating over the bi-metal bullet, it is thinner than a human hair. When you shoot it you are getting steel on steel contact in your barrel decreasing the longevity of the barrel. With TulAmmo I have seen there poly coating just rub right off, I don't want that gumming up my rifle or handgun. Also It stinks, I get PMC .223 brass for 9.50/box, if I buy bulk I get it for 7.50/box that's half to a full case at my local gun store. I have also been picking up that Perfecta 9mm 50rds box at Walmart for 13.97/box and it shoots really well and is very clean, but what is messed up it is distributed by TulAmmo USA.

Muchadoaboutnuthin...

I've had zero problems with any steel cased (Wolf, Tula, Brown Bear et al) ammo in any of my 9mm's including my S&W SD9VE's.

If there were a problem with steel case ammo I doubt the great ammunition house of "Hornady" would have started their own line of "MATCH" ammo in steel cases.

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I have been trying to find some of the Hornady made steel, did they stop making it and why. I you know please and thank you for your reply.

Steel cased ammo was employed by the Germans, Russians and Americans during WWII because of shortages in strategic materials like copper (brass). It was never the preferred case material but was a wartime substitute. Armies view military weapons as expendable so steel cased ammo is not a factor for them. It is for me. Steel cases are harder than brass. Steel causes more friction than brass. Friction causes wear. Keep your steel cased ammo. I'll keep shooting brass cased ammo.

Best Regards,
ADP3

I have been looking this up on the net and like always I have gotten a **** load of mixed reviews. I have shot it in only one hand gun that I own. In my Star BM and it likes it better than brass. I am thinking because of where and when that hand gun was made.

I keep hearing that Steel case is okay, the problem in in the bullet itself. There is a fine coating of copper over the bi metal bullet. This coating is thinner than that of a human hair. So when shot through you barrel with lower twist rates it will in time wear out the barrel. Also the Steel case ammo gets bad raps is because shooters will use some steel out at the range and then switch straight back to brass. Well steel bi-metal rounds are dirty just a few mags of Wolf or Tulammo in your rifle and its dirty, I have seen a few of my buddies AR15's after shooting just 60-120 rounds they are much dirtier than that of brass rounds. When they switch from steel to brass the FTF, FTE and double feeds start to rear up there ugly heads, because they did not clean there gun first before switching back to brass.

So it's up to you, if you have the money in the long run and do a lot of shooting and can replace a barrel of a few extractors after 1000+ rounds then that's cool. Me personally I will stick with brass, I know that it's cheaper to shoot steel but like my guns to last, not have to repair every few hundred rounds.

I do know a guy that has a Colt and a DPMS Ar15 5.56 nato 1/8th twist and everything else on there is fully mil-spec, he has shot like over 5000+ rounds through it and only cleans it every 1000rds and All its had through it since he got it was steel case Wolf classic .223. I have seen him shoot it and he said he has never had any failures that he can recall. I just think that some people have all the luck, some do not. He knows a guy with the same Ar15 and it failed after like only 250rds through it of Wolf Classic.

My reason for preferring steel is purely for self preservation lol. I have an sd9ve (which I adore) with the ejection problem... Casings coming straight back at me. Steel burns less than brass!! LOL

Yes, I've tried the "break in", it's had 300-500 rounds through it. Winchester for the most part goes to the side, but every single thing else comes back and usually down my shirt.... So I finally broke down & sent it in.

weird. my cpx eats pretty much anything. tulla(you are definitely going to have to clean your gun after) wwb, rem, federal, blazer, and whatever I can find on sale. bad part is it likes hornady critical defense the best