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Old 03-29-2015, 04:22 PM
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purchased a 9ve after some research. Must of put about 400 rounds through it. I did notice sites feel off, at least so it seems (lower left about 2-4 inches off center) (7 yards distance). I did read about multiple people having sight issues. as a rifle owner i an very familiar with how to use sights properly. I guess i will try to put about 1-2k rounds through it and see if i am still having this issue.
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Old 03-29-2015, 05:18 PM
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purchased a 9ve after some research. Must of put about 400 rounds through it. I did notice sites feel off, at least so it seems (lower left about 2-4 inches off center) (7 yards distance). I did read about multiple people having sight issues. as a rifle owner i an very familiar with how to use sights properly. I guess i will try to put about 1-2k rounds through it and see if i am still having this issue.
I don't see why firing more rounds will affect the sights unless they are loose and are expected to self adjust. In any case, 2-4 inches off at 7 yards sounds pretty lethal to me - I should do so well.

Regarding sights in general, my first rifle was a Remington Fieldmaster, got it when I was 12 years old. [We did that here in the Midwest]. Seems to me that the proper sight alignment put the top of the front sight aligned with the bottom of the notch in the rear sight.

The SD9 manual (or something I have read) says to put the front sight in direct alignment with the two dots on the rear sight and put that dot on the target. What am I missing, or forgetting?

Now when I was on the NROTC rifle team (1950-54) the sights were quite different, but I don't remember their configuration.
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:56 PM
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sights are not loose. I was thinking i am not used to a hand gun as it is my first hand gun purchase and putting more rounds aka getting more used to it. You know what they say "more you use it, the more you know it" figure it will help me compensate for the recoil. I don't know. i noticed i get a little more accurate when front dot is little higher then the rear
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:51 PM
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sights are not loose. I was thinking i am not used to a hand gun as it is my first hand gun purchase and putting more rounds aka getting more used to it. You know what they say "more you use it, the more you know it" figure it will help me compensate for the recoil. I don't know. i noticed i get a little more accurate when front dot is little higher then the rear
I haven't shot that much since switching to a pistol but I have noticed that for target shooting you do have to use a slow steady pull and not even think of when it will fire nor worry about recoil which is harmless.

As for your accuracy, if you could, in a defensive situation, come close to what you report in target shooting you will have achieved your goal.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:14 AM
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I too noticed the same accuracy problem: low left. I have seen this mentioned by others. Also, I found placing front sight a bit high improves the shot placement. After about 200 rounds trying various grip adjustments and having others fire my SD9, I started drifting the rear sight. Accuracy improving but not where I want it just yet after another 200 rounds. Expecting that the next range visit will put me where I think it should be.
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:41 AM
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I found the plastic site on mine was just not symmetrical. I replaced it with a real sight and the problems went away. I tried the regular M&P from my 9c but eventually went to Ameriglo fiber optics. I know the purists will turn up their noses, but I really like the fiber optics. I can see them and I only shoot this gun in the daylight anyway.
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:46 AM
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The lower hits on you target are most likely due to the short range that you are shooting. Handguns are typically sighted in for 25 yards. Light bullets will also affect the point of impact. Move your target out to at least 50 feet and shoot it off a rest to see if your point of impact rises. If yo're shooting 115 grain bullets going to 124, 135 or 147 grain bullets will also raise your point of impact.

The left impact point often shifts depending upon how much finger contact you have with the trigger. Shoot from a rest and try less or more contact and see if your groups shift.

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Pistols will sometimes shoot somewhat low at 7 yards, but not several inches worth. The ususal cause of low, left hits for right handed shooters is poor trigger control. Typically, losing patience and finishing the trigger stroke with a yank.
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Pistols will sometimes shoot somewhat low at 7 yards, but not several inches worth. The ususal cause of low, left hits for right handed shooters is poor trigger control. Typically, losing patience and finishing the trigger stroke with a yank.
Good point, and a new SD exacerbates the issue until it breaks in and smooths up (or until th Apex parts arrive). The OP might be well served by shooting from a pistol rest a few times to see where the gun actually shoots when it is stabilized.
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Weimed; If anyone hasn't advised you, ANY M&P sight will fit the SD pistols, no problem. Same slide cut. Makes replacement quite a bit easier, if you do replace.
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When I first got my SD9VE I also shot low and left (right handed).
The following correction chart and lots of trigger time helped a lot increasing my accuracy.

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All your help is amazing guys/gals, thank you in advance. Does the m&p and the apex void warrenty?
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Putting M&P sights on a SD Series pistol SHOULDN'T void the warranty when you use factory S&W sights. Switching internals like the springs and/or trigger to aftermarket parts WILL void the warranty since you have to take the pistol apart beyond the regular field strip, like described in the manual. To be sure about the sights, just give S&W CS a call and ask them.
But then again, it's a $300 pistol and IF a warranty case occurs you can either put it back to stock condition before you send it back to S&W or buy a new one and use the first for spare parts.
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When I first got my SD9VE I also shot low and left (right handed).
The following correction chart and lots of trigger time helped a lot increasing my accuracy.

After about 100 rounds through my SD9ve, I went with a M&P factory rear sight. The plastic one was ok but I like steel sights on my guns. I picked it up on ebay for $13. It was better than the plastic sight imo. Also, the pie chart on shot placement is a good reference.

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I hadn't shot for many years and decided to get back into it. I noticed the same problem with my placements, 2-4 inches to the bottom left. I refused to believe that it was the gun because of all of the great reviews that I read. Well after many youtube vids and some professional help from my ccw instructor, it was the way I was pulling the trigger and the anticipation of the kick. With practicing up on some triggernometry, I'm now tearing up that center mark from 15 feet to 35 feet.
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I hadn't shot for many years and decided to get back into it. I noticed the same problem with my placements, 2-4 inches to the bottom left. I refused to believe that it was the gun because of all of the great reviews that I read. Well after many youtube vids and some professional help from my ccw instructor, it was the way I was pulling the trigger and the anticipation of the kick. With practicing up on some triggernometry, I'm now tearing up that center mark from 15 feet to 35 feet.
I should do so well. I only care about hitting a body target at 20-25'. No room in my house is larger than that.

Now of course shooting for fun is a different story but I don't make a 2" pattern at 35'.
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