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First time to post. I am sure this has been brought up before. I shot approx. 75-100 rounds today and my finger is killing me. I have heard that the trigger can be changed, is it worth it? I have trouble holding steady to pull the trigger, will the change help? Thanks.
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First time to post. I am sure this has been brought up before. I shot approx. 75-100 rounds today and my finger is killing me. I have heard that the trigger can be changed, is it worth it? I have trouble holding steady to pull the trigger, will the change help? Thanks.
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If I had that problem I would buy a target pistol and use the SD for self defense.
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The art of firing the SD trigger, or a revolver trigger, is to pull it through in a steady manner. By attempting to go slowly and stage it towards the break point, you put considerable tension on your finger for quite a bit of travel. (On a S&W revolver, you can go slowly until you feel the final setting of the trigger and the cylinder locking into place, and then go the last bit to release the hammer; but that is a slow fire, not self-defense or rapid fire, way of doing business -- and takes some touch).
Go smoothly and consistently, and the striker will release predictably -- and your finger won't be working so hard (and the gun won't be shaking). The SD isn't a target pistol with a trigger 'like a glass rod breaking' as they describe a match 1911 or a broken-in Sig-Sauer.
Or get one of those rock climbing finger exercisers and start building some trigger finger muscles!
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First time to post. I am sure this has been brought up before. I shot approx. 75-100 rounds today and my finger is killing me. I have heard that the trigger can be changed, is it worth it? I have trouble holding steady to pull the trigger, will the change help? Thanks.
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100 rds is nothing , I have fired 50 to 100 at least once a week for 3 years with mine. Just keep shooting it & even dry fire a lot, get snap caps if you like , I did not.
Get your round count up to 1000 before you even consider doing anything to the gun.
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Mico is right, I just recently got mine back from repair shop after it was tinkered with by another guy. I only had about 300 rounds through it when I changed it to the Apex kit, because all of the cool guys was doing it.
I have spent $150.00 total having this done, and now I am almost to square one.
Leave it alone and get used to it.(hindsight tells me this)
I have a bad finger on my shooting hand anyway so i was wanting to make it easier. But I will just get used to it, and purchase another later.
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Like Madracr07 and Mico said leave it alone and adapt. A good SD pistol does not need a light trigger unless you are competing with this pistol, I thought the same thing but i got used to it and mastered it and i use the word "mastered" lightly. And welcome to the forum!
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I added just the Apex trigger spring kit, it made the trigger pull a bit lighter and smoother without changing the length of the pull. I like it so much better and find it comparable to my Glock. I mostly use it at the range because of how accurate it is and fun to shoot but don't carry it much.
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I added just the Apex trigger spring kit, it made the trigger pull a bit lighter and smoother without changing the length of the pull. I like it so much better and find it comparable to my Glock. I mostly use it at the range because of how accurate it is and fun to shoot but don't carry it much.
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Just shooting mine made the trigger pull a bit lighter , it has always been smooth.
Never have understood what people mean by not smooth or when some say gritty ? I have & do shoot a lot of different guns at the range ' rental is free to members ' & I have never felt a gritty trigger, smooth I can't say what I can say is I am a better shot with any of them I think because of my training with my SD
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I decided to do a little dry-fire experiment in the house using snapcaps. With a two-handed grip and a steady trigger pull I didn't see the sights move from the "target" at all.
Not live fire but it seems my grip is appropriate.
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Because I Have arthritis in my Hands from Automotive work for over 40+yrs, which I still love doing , I added a Apex trigger and Spring kit also Striker smoothing out, This has Helped a great deal, down to 5lbs pull and no Jerking , either Self defense or Range Gun , For Me I Need a smoother and lighter trigger, But not 4-3 lbs , too light , Fact Is , I would not purchase this Firearm again, do not like stock trigger AT ALL, That's Just Me, SD9ve better with Upgrades ,
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Hey guys.. I know this has nothing to do with installing a new trigger.. But just a question have you guys have any problems with the trigger not resetting after it fires and loads the next round?
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Hey guys.. I know this has nothing to do with installing a new trigger.. But just a question have you guys have any problems with the trigger not resetting after it fires and loads the next round?
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If you're having problems with your SDVE pistol you might want to call S&W.
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Another vote to "learn the gun before starting to change elective stuff."
Listing stuff in a sig file doesn't mean you know your pistol or can shoot it well.
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Hey guys.. I know this has nothing to do with installing a new trigger.. But just a question have you guys have any problems with the trigger not resetting after it fires and loads the next round?
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Are you letting it go forward far enough to reset the sear?
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Are you letting it go forward far enough to reset the sear?
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The slide is going full motion. Trigger is not resetting after the fact. I have to pull the slide back couple centimeters and I can see the trigger reset after that.
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The slide is going full motion. Trigger is not resetting after the fact. I have to pull the slide back couple centimeters and I can see the trigger reset after that.
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Sorry, "indefinite pronouns can be so indefinite"--when I asked if you were letting 'it' come forward enough to reset, I meant the trigger.
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My very first time out during certification training with a new SD9VE was outside with metal targets. In particular I was hitting 3" rounds and making them spin around the post, great fun!
Then I decided to see just how fast I could do it. The gun seemed to not always fire when I pulled the trigger. . . . Then I realized I was not letting the trigger reset.
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Just got done installing the Apex trigger and trigger return spring. It looked much easier in the videos. It took a few tries to capture the trigger return spring driving the pin in and the Apex capture pin out. I also bought the spring kit but only installed the trigger return spring so far. My trigger pin was pre installed so that all I had to do was capture the trigger bar. Quick tip, use pliers for this process to get it started.
Edit. The Apex trigger geometry is much better. It wasn't comfortable having to pull the trigger so far to the rear.
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I am new to S&W also to this forum, just got a SD9VE 2 weeks ago.
A quick question: do any of you do "25 cents trigger job" on SD9VE? Where and how to polish the parts? I own a California Compliant version, which comes with magazine disconnect safety...still learn to get use to it. Although the trigger is long pull and much heavier, I actually shoot SD9VE better than Glock 19...love my SD9VE
Back to the topic, where and how to polish the parts (trigger job)? Please help, thanks.
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I am new to S&W also to this forum, just got a SD9VE 2 weeks ago.
A quick question: do any of you do "25 cents trigger job" on SD9VE? Where and how to polish the parts? I own a California Compliant version, which comes with magazine disconnect safety...still learn to get use to it. Although the trigger is long pull and much heavier, I actually shoot SD9VE better than Glock 19...love my SD9VE
Back to the topic, where and how to polish the parts (trigger job)? Please help, thanks.
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Welcome to the site.
Have you tried the "SEARCH" option located at the top of the forum board? That's a good place to start. Also try Google.
The SDVE series is a great firearm for the price. A lot of people consider it "The Poor Mans Glock."
I'm sure some will come along and answer your Q?'s. Good luck and shoot the heck out of you new SD9VE!
BTW, the trigger does get somewhat better the more your shoot it.
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The Apex video on the spring and Trigger kit installation shows the points to polish. Towards the end of the video in the reassembly portion.
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Back to the topic, where and how to polish the parts (trigger job)? Please help, thanks.
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Luke,
The Apex springs and/or trigger will definitely help with pretravel and crispness of the trigger. Makes an already good gun even better, but
When you get it apart, I think you will find that the trigger assembly really does not need "polishing"
I too am trigger sensitive to any gritty friction points and I have taken a stone to most of my guns to make the action as slick as possible.
However with my SDVE, within I would say a couple hundred rounds, any friction points had smoothed out.
There was no machine marks for example, that were on friction points to stone down. Any "rough" spots were just minor imperfections that can't be helped and that smoothed away with the repeated action.
Doc
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Thanks for your inputs.
Just went to an indoor range and shoot another 200 rounds. Long and relative heavier trigger pull makes my hands tired after 100 rounds. So I switched hands...but use only my dominant eye (right) to aim and shoot. I am a right handed shooter.
First picture is done by left hand (with my right hand support) from 21 feet.
Second picture is done by my right hand (with my left hand support) from 25 feet; all hits in 3' range.
Like I've said, I shoot SD9VE better than Glock 19...don't know why.
Living in California, the lawyers and politicians will make you look ugly and guilty if you do some inner modification on your self defense gun. "Ah, you are upgrading the inner parts to make it assaultive and thus killing becomes natural and easy..." Well, I may not install Apex spring and trigger kits for now unless I will make this gun for range only. And, the Apex kits seem to get pros and cons on SD series...perhaps the complicated California compliant version (with mag disconnection safety and extra parts) will add more cons on the kits.
That's why I think just polishing the trigger and perhaps some action parts will make this decent gun close to perfect. Thanks for sharing with me the Apex video; the guy said too fast but after watching it 3 times I got his ideas on the polishing parts. I probably won't touch the sear block parts; California version has extra 3 or 4 parts hidden and many people in calguns.net warned about "flying parts" after take down the sear block.
Love this gun, will keep it until it break...and then ship it to S&W to get a replacement.
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Very nice shooting. But, why is that silhouette being shot in the back? Is he running from the crime scene shooting back?
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If S&W made the triggers on SD pistols as good as the triggers on the M&P series pistols there would be a lot less sales for their premium line pistols (M&P).
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