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SD45VE?
I sent S&W an email asking if they were making an SD45VE. Here is their response;
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While I hope they will eventually make one, I don't know if they will. The two iterations of the SDVE line, the 9mm and .40, can use many of the same components. A .45 version would require a lot of new components.
On the other hand, S&W did make a .45 Shield, so who knows? I know I would buy a SD45VE in a heartbeat!
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While I hope they will eventually make one, I don't know if they will. The two iterations of the SDVE line, the 9mm and .40, can use many of the same components. A .45 version would require a lot of new components.
On the other hand, S&W did make a .45 Shield, so who knows? I know I would buy a SD45VE in a heartbeat!
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You, me, and I'm sure 1K's more as well!
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SW45VE 10rd capicity..... Would be nice ...
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I'd be happy with a nice, slim single stack 8-round mag and a four inch barrel. I had a Ruger SR45 with a 10 round mag, and a M&P 45 full size with a 10 round mag, and both were a tad too big in my hand.
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Only interested if over 10 rounds. Anything less than 12 round mags would be pointless just get a 1911. Same reason M&P45 is a joke.
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I have 3 Subcompact 45 acps ... But I'd purchase a SD45VE single stack or double stack ...
Glock 30S , XDS45 , Taurus PT145 Pro ( a real sleeper )
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I have 3 Subcompact 45 acps ... But I'd purchase a SD45VE single stack or double stack ...
Glock 30S , XDS45 , Taurus PT145 Pro ( a real sleeper )
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Very nice pistols, except for the 2X4.
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Only interested if over 10 rounds. Anything less than 12 round mags would be pointless just get a 1911. Same reason M&P45 is a joke.
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Have you ever had a M&P 45? I have...three, to be exact: the M&P 45 FS, the M&P 45 MS, and the M&P 45 C, and believe me, not one of them was a joke. They were all very fine pistols. You might disdain them because of their "limited" capacity, but 8 or 10 rounds is plenty for almost any use. S&W also makes a 14 round magazine, for the commandos who are storming a beach or assaulting a garrison or blowing up tanks and such.
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I don't think they'll ever make one in 45. They never made the Sigma in 45 so no one reason to engineer a new budget pistol.
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Have you ever had a M&P 45? I have...three, to be exact: the M&P 45 FS, the M&P 45 MS, and the M&P 45 C, and believe me, not one of them was a joke. They were all very fine pistols. You might disdain them because of their "limited" capacity, but 8 or 10 rounds is plenty for almost any use. S&W also makes a 14 round magazine, for the commandos who are storming a beach or assaulting a garrison or blowing up tanks and such.
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While i am sure they are fine pistols the capcity is a joke. The 14 round mag looks extremely goofy. If glock and springfield can make 13 round .45 then S&W can too. Any less than 12 capacity and i will be looking into 9mm or .40 instead. All handgun calibers suck at stopping threats. 8-10 shots even well aimed may not be enough
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All handgun calibers suck at stopping threats. 8-10 shots even well aimed may not be enough
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You are entitled to your opinion...but there have been a lot of people who have successfully defended themselves and/or others with a handgun. In fact, over 3/4 of self-defense shootings have involved a handgun.
As for the number of shots required...statistics have shown that the average number of rounds expended by civilians is 2, in a self-defense scenario. That average number is tending upward with the increased prevalence of semi-autos versus revolvers, and can be affected by training versus unfamiliarity (i.e. "spray and pray, shoot until empty.")
Modern defensive handgun calibers have been shown to be effective in the average civilian situations. Of course, variables can affect the outcome. For example, if your home is invaded by a team of black ops professionals wearing body armor, you will need more rounds (and quite possibly a high powered rifle) to address the threat than if you are faced with a 130 pound stoner looking to rip off your stereo.
For most of us, in the real world, we will very likely never be engaged in an extended gun fight...or maybe never even fire a gun in necessity. You do whatever makes you feel safe(r) and secure...that's each man's responsibility to himself and to those he needs to protect.
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You are entitled to your opinion...but there have been a lot of people who have successfully defended themselves and/or others with a handgun. In fact, over 3/4 of self-defense shootings have involved a handgun.
As for the number of shots required...statistics have shown that the average number of rounds expended by civilians is 2, in a self-defense scenario. That average number is tending upward with the increased prevalence of semi-autos versus revolvers, and can be affected by training versus unfamiliarity (i.e. "spray and pray, shoot until empty.")
Modern defensive handgun calibers have been shown to be effective in the average civilian situations. Of course, variables can affect the outcome. For example, if your home is invaded by a team of black ops professionals wearing body armor, you will need more rounds (and quite possibly a high powered rifle) to address the threat than if you are faced with a 130 pound stoner looking to rip off your stereo.
For most of us, in the real world, we will very likely never be engaged in an extended gun fight...or maybe never even fire a gun in necessity. You do whatever makes you feel safe(r) and secure...that's each man's responsibility to himself and to those he needs to protect.
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Most modern pistol calibers perform about the same that much is correct as for stopping threats there is plenty of information on how poorly pistols perfom in that area. Here is just one example from a surgeon. I will take his word over yours when it comes to real world experience Dr Andreas Grabinsky on Gunshot Wounds - YouTube
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...as for stopping threats there is plenty of information on how poorly pistols perfom in that area.
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Concealed carry must present a real dilemma for you...
Back to the original discussion:
I agree that S&W probably won't make a SD45VE, but if they did, I would happily buy one assuming the grip profile is the same...which might mean that it would have a single stack 8 round mag. That's more than fine with me. If they made it with a higher capacity, double stack mag, it might be a tad too wide. The full size M&P 45 (and the mid size, as well) were just a bit too big in my hand, even with the small grip insert.
What the heck, I'd probably buy one anyway, even it it had the double stack 10 round magazine.
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Concealed carry must present a real dilemma for you.
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Not really. Since most modern hollowpoints perfom roughly the same I choose somthing I shoot well and has decent capacity.
14 rounds of .40 is double the 7 round capacity of a 1911 and roughy 40% more than a 10 round mag. So no need to carry as many spare mags. One or two will do. Even better with 9mm. Its not like the .45 does anything better than 9 or 40. Except hold less ammo. Makes the choice quite simple really That is my thought process behind choosing a carry gun
That is why if they made an SD 45 with only 10 round capacity I would not consider purchasing it. much like the M&P .45
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