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09-26-2016, 11:22 AM
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Broke slave pin
I just bought an SD9VE last week and already broke it. Yep, I'm talented. I called S & W and they're going to put the recoil spring assembly in the mail today, which impressed me. However, I really wanted it for the weekend and it probably won't get here until I've left. Is there any way to get the spring compressed enough to get it back in the gun with the pin being broke. I can put one half of the pin in each end but trying to compress the spring enough to get the two ends to meet seems impossible.
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09-26-2016, 12:38 PM
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Slave pin?
Exactly what broke, where, and how?
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09-26-2016, 12:53 PM
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Slave pins are pins inserted to hold something in place temporarily , they are then removed and are not part of the gun.
You broke something else....what did you do ....don't do it again!
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09-26-2016, 01:59 PM
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check a local gun shop / smith , they might have one or try one from a Glock 19 , should work on a temporary basis anyway
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09-26-2016, 02:51 PM
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I'm assuming he meant recoil spring....check around to see if any gunsmiths have a Glock 19 recoil rod and spring like mentioned above
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09-26-2016, 02:55 PM
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It is the plastic insert for the recoil spring that keeps the spring compressed. Here is a pic of the spring with the pin inside.
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09-26-2016, 04:01 PM
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Pin?
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It is the plastic insert for the recoil spring that keeps the spring compressed. Here is a pic of the spring with the pin inside.
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I agree the subject must be the plastic guide rod for the recoil spring.
I just can't, however I look at it, understand how he can consider using a broken guide rod.
We shall see . . . .
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09-26-2016, 04:23 PM
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We shall not see. After a bit of thought, I can see now it would be next to impossible unless a person could put super glue on the 2 halves, compress the spring so the 2 halves meet up just perfectly and hold it in place for a minute while the glue dries. Yeah, next to impossible.
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09-26-2016, 06:00 PM
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How did you manage to break the RSA? I thought I was talented, but I may just be an amateur...
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09-26-2016, 06:05 PM
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It does take a special talent. I field stripped it according to the instructions and evidently didn't have the chamber quite in place and when I pulled back on it everything flew out on to the carpet, which is where I found the piece in 2 pieces.
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09-26-2016, 06:36 PM
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It does take a special talent. I field stripped it according to the instructions and evidently didn't have the chamber quite in place and when I pulled back on it everything flew out on to the carpet, which is where I found the piece in 2 pieces.
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Man! That IS some special talent...
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09-26-2016, 07:50 PM
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Well, that took just the right man to come along and prove to everyone that a metal guide rod(RSA) IS SUPERIOR over a polymer guide rod.
It good OP that S&W is sending you a new assembly.
Sounds like spare parts are in your future? LOL
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09-26-2016, 07:54 PM
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Well, that took just the right man to come along and prove to everyone that a metal guide rod(RSA) IS SUPERIOR over a polymer guide rod.
It good OP that S&W is sending you a new assembly.
Sounds like spare parts are in your future? LOL
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A person should never waste their talents.
Spare parts? I guess you already have me figured out.
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09-27-2016, 12:56 PM
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Well, that took just the right man to come along and prove to everyone that a metal guide rod(RSA) IS SUPERIOR over a polymer guide rod.
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I don't think this event relates in any way to the reliability of guides rods which are properly installed.
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09-27-2016, 01:00 PM
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Chamber?
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It does take a special talent. I field stripped it according to the instructions and evidently didn't have the chamber quite in place and when I pulled back on it everything flew out on to the carpet, which is where I found the piece in 2 pieces.
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While waiting for the replacement part just review the assembly instructions carefully.
The guide rod has to be properly installed and it does seem to take an extra nudge to get it properly seated.
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09-27-2016, 01:34 PM
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While waiting for the replacement part just review the assembly instructions carefully.
The guide rod has to be properly installed and it does seem to take an extra nudge to get it properly seated.
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Thanks for the advise. I'll definitely do that.
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09-27-2016, 03:34 PM
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The first Glocks did not have a captured recoil spring. The picture above, which I assume is a S&W assembly, appears to be similar to the Glock assembly. Unless the guide rod is broken, simply slide the recoil spring over the guide rod, place the front end of the spring in the recess in the front portion of the slide, compress the spring by pushing on the rear of the guide rod and place that end into it's contact point in front of the barrel lugs. Done.
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09-27-2016, 03:39 PM
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I just found out there is a gun shop with gunsmith only 3 miles away. He's willing to lend me a spring assembly from a new gun and then I just need to give him my new one when it arrives. I mistakenly called this a slave pin because one is included in the Apex spring kit and it looks similar to the guide pin that broke in mine.
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09-27-2016, 07:43 PM
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I just found out there is a gun shop with gunsmith only 3 miles away. He's willing to lend me a spring assembly from a new gun and then I just need to give him my new one when it arrives. I mistakenly called this a slave pin because one is included in the Apex spring kit and it looks similar to the guide pin that broke in mine.
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When you say "Pin" I'm unable to relate it to the recoil spring assembly in the picture. My SD9VE RSA has no pin that I can see. Maybe I'm missing something.
Maybe you can show a picture of the slave pin from the Apex kit that is similar to the pin that broke in your pistol.
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I took a look at your picture and it seems to show a shiny metal guide rod. My guide rod is black plastic and has an X-shaped cross section. Your picture seems to show a round rod.
Is your picture of the original rod that came with your pistol? If so, did you buy it new or used?
Sorry to seem so confused . . .
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Reason: Metal rod question-
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09-27-2016, 07:57 PM
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Guide rod maybe? It's the white plastic thingamijig in the center of the spring in the photo except that mine is black.
It looks similar to this slave pin shown in this Apex kit. That's what confused me.
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09-27-2016, 09:13 PM
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Guide rod maybe? It's the white plastic thingamijig in the center of the spring in the photo except that mine is black.
It looks similar to this slave pin shown in this Apex kit. That's what confused me.
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Isn't the Apex slave pin a lot smaller than the recoil spring assembly?
It looks like the recoil spring assembly in your pictures is not from your gun but a stainless aftermarket assembly.
Since we are now pretty sure you have a black plastic OEM RSA, exactly where did it break? Somewhere in the body or did an end come off?
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09-27-2016, 10:00 PM
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A quick shot from my phone.
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09-27-2016, 10:12 PM
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Yep, thats broken. I always feel like I'm going to break mine....I should order a replacement just in case. I'm actually more worried about breaking the flat side where you lock it onto the barrel.
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09-27-2016, 10:17 PM
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A quick shot from my phone.
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Good picture. Explains it all.
If you were an Orthopaedic surgeon you could "set" that sucker.
And yes, there is no way you could have used those pieces in your gun.
Just remember that when you put the new assembly in, it takes a second nudge to properly seat it.
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09-27-2016, 10:20 PM
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One more thing . . . If you ever decide to get a metal guide rod (Not on my list of things to do) the spring would probably be appropriate.
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