I'm searching for a mid-sized or compact sized 9mm- not a pocket 9mm. I've narrowed my choices down to either the SD9VE or one of the CZ75 compacts. The purpose is an around the house/out to the barn at night weapon with potentially concealed carry/vehicle weapon use in the future. (We live in an area that is experiencing a rise in violence/robbery related to increased drug use- shopping mall parking lots seem to be a prime hunting ground)

I have had S&W revolvers for about 35 years, also have a M&P22 and am loyal to the brand. From research the SD9VE seems to be a great pistol. Reliable, combat accurate, easy to bring into use. It seems the SD9VE is the semi-auto version of the old Model 10- just with more capacity. (Yeah, I know the Model 10 can also be shot single action and the SD9VE is DAO- that not a concern for me, I'm used to DA)..

I also have a full sized CZ 75BD. Its a great pistol. It seems ergonomically matched to my hand, pointable, reliable, and very accurate. I'm considering a CZ 75 compact, the PCR aluminum framed decocker model if I can find one. (One thing I like about the CZ 75 decockers is that because they decock to the half cock notch and have a longer SA trigger pull, there is little difference between the DA and SA modes. This tends to simulate a revolver's consistent DA pull)

The SD9VE is less expensive and considering that I plan to carry the gun, and maybe carry concealed, my question is does anyone have experience with both pistols side by side? And what is your opinion?

Thanks in advance.

(Edit. Corrected to PCR)

If you have a CZ get a CZ

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I would choose a CZ Compact

It's a no brainer, get the CZ.

Not sure what a DCP is, but the PCR fits the bill.

I had never seen a PCR on the shelf around here, so I called CZ customer service and asked if they could help with my availability problem. He immediately looked up the 3 most recent large shipments of PCR's to US wholesalers, and gave me their names and phone numbers.
I took that info to my LGS and they ordered two that afternoon.
Had it in a week. Great "all-around" gun.

Without question CZ 75 Compact or PCR with its alloy frame.

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I have owned both and carried both and there is no comparison. Buy the CZ. There are solid reasons why the platform has been so successful throughout the world in spite of the striker fire revolution. Also, I would think that the mags from the CZ 75 will fit the compact version, too. And you get the same manual of arms, to boot.

CZ all the way hands down.

I meant the PCR-- my error. Thanks.

Thanks for all your opinions!

Hands down CZ in this case. I have a friend who bought the SD9 and with in 3 month had sold it for a Glock 19.

If you like S&W and want to stick with them I would look at the M&P line in a 9mm, much better competition to the CZ. But I am sure you would not regret the CZ purchase.

Though I tend to agree with the majority that the CZ is by far the better option, there are other factors to consider.
For a daily carry piece, I've always perferred to carry a pistol that is as economical as possible, (while obviously also having an acceptable degree of quality and reliability).
From everything I've heard about the SD9VE, they reliably feed just about everything, so that's not a concern here.
An EDC pistol is by definition going to be exposed to everything from higher wear, to adverse conditions, to a higher possiblity of being stolen (like when you're forced to leave it in the car when you enter the post office, polling station, courthouse,etc), as well as the possibility of losing it indefinitely should you be forced to fire it in self defense.
All of these conditions make me more comfortable toting something economical and easily replaced like an Airweight 38 or Shield9, over a more expensive favorite toy.
By all accounts, the SD9 runs great, is lightweight, is backed by stellar customer service, is inexpensive, and presumably has cheaper mags than the CZ. It also wouldn't be any big concern to ding and scuff up, leave hidden in a car, or have confiscated by the police, as something nicer would be.
That's my take on it,anyway.

I have both....well sort of. I first bought a SD9VE and I was very satisfied with it....I still am. After using a CZ75 compact at the local range I wanted one. Problem>>>>not enough cash!! Solution>>>>TriStar C100 CZ75c clone. Less than $400 from Buds online and I have not regretted it at all. My friends say my clone is as good as their CZ, I think so also. I like being able to carry it "condition one" and I like the fact it is an all metal firearm ( slightly heavier than the CZ)with a great "chrome like" cerakote finish.

The Tristar C-100 is a very good suggestion if cost is important.

If you like your CZ75b and want to carry a CZ, you should check out the CZ subcompact. I have the 75B, 75D PCR Compact and the CZ 2075BD Rammi. I carry the Rammi. If you shoot the 75b well, you will shoot the Rammi just as well and, while it won't fit in your pocket, it carries IWB just fine.

You cannot go wrong with the CZ75DCompact.

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Halfway and one more step

For fun - CZ 75
For carry - SD9VE, better slide serrations, consistant trigger pull, lighter weight, etc

You echoed many of my thoughts and concerns on the subject. Decisions.

The D Compact seems to be the best value CZ 75 Compact. I stopped at the LGS tonight. He had a D Compact and P-01. The only difference he and I could see between the two are that the P-01 has a NSN number and a blackened barrel- and cost $50 more. Otherwise they are identical including the alloy frame with rail.

The P-01 has the full dust cover with rail. Adds slightly more weight and a wider muzzle profile over the Compact D.
We learned recently from another member that some European Compact D's are on the market here, and they have the full dust cover and rail. The USA market ones do not, and are known as PCR's.

CZ-USA CZ 75 D PCR Compact - CZ-USA

CZ-USA CZ P-01 - CZ-USA

I actually agree with this but if you already have a CZ and have been shooting revolvers a DA trigger shouldn't be a big deal.

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The alloy framed cz75 D Compact is designated "PCR"
It has serrations on both ends of the slide, rounded corners.
It's slightly thinner than the SD and is 14rd single stack magazine,

I personally do not like a striker fired concealed. (I won't argue about it.)

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Again, while the CZ is definitely going to be the nicer pistol, and surely more enjoyable to own, it sounds in the OP like cost is at least somewhat of a concern.
I just checked Bud's for reference, and the cost difference in the two looks to be a good $260 bucks.
Since you already have you a nice CZ range toy, and numerous other pistols, for this application (EDC), I'd still go with the SD9, and splurge on some nice self-defense and practice ammo, and still have money left over.
And, I generally agree with OldTexMex's concerns about striker fired pistols for daily carry, I believe the SD9 is DAO and has a fairly stout trigger pull at 8 pounds. I'm thinking this makes it about as safe as a Walther P99as with it's de-cocking feature (which I always felt was very safe in that condition).

The SD9VE will get the job done

What he said^^^^^.

The D Compact the LGS has must be one of the Euro versions. It has the full dust cover and rail. The frame is non-magnetic. It is marked "CZ 75 D Compact" on the slide. Frankly the PCR looks nicer to me with the tapered and scalloped dust cover/slide. They're just scarce around these parts. And its my personal preference to buy from local LGSs unless absolutely necessary.

I see Buds is stocking the European version for $50 less than the US version. Maybe your LGS would acquire the one you prefer for you, if you ask. Mine did. Their mechanically identical and both equally good guns.

It's unfortunate that two dissimilar frames pistols have the same slide markings and are marketed under the same name.

I wasn't going to use the rail, and also I wanted the narrower snout because its easier to holster, and I was willing to wait.

Funny thing, our LGS is also our gun club, so I cleaned it and shot it as soon as it arrived. So did my husband, and he liked it so much, he asked the owner to get him one. Turned out they ordered two, so we got them both.

Thanks for the info. And it's great your LGS had another in stock!

Doing some research, which included posts from someone in the Ukraine and confirming by looking at the Czech CZ website (CZUB), it appears when P-01s are in short supply in the US market CZ redirects the Euro market D Compact to the US. It's the same pistol only with a different roll mark on the slide.

And against all internet "conventional wisdom" my LGS's price on the D Compact is less than Bud's. And it's a small shop, not a chain or high volume shop. Maybe it's a NOS thing. But it is tempting.

Getting back to my original question, I was able to check out the SD9VE at two other GS. Both are higher volume shops. It looks like a great gun. One GS didn't mind if I pulled the trigger through- I always ask- so I did several times. Frankly the SD9VE's trigger weight feels about like an average K frame trigger. I have K frames with a much higher DA pull weights (and I have a nickel Model 10 with the sweetest DA trigger!). I really don't see why there is a lot of criticism about the SD9VE's trigger. No, it's not a target trigger. The trigger feels like it's about an 8-9 pound pull, but its controllable and has a definite tactile consistent reset point. It's a trigger that can easily be learned in short order and won't impact accuracy

One shop had both so I was able to compare. It's really apples/oranges. Side by side the engineering and design goals are very different. Plus the CZ is really 1970's traditional firearm tech and engineered when we all had fewer semi auto choices. But I came of age in that era so those old tech firearms are familiar. In contrast the SD is clearly designed and engineered to compete in a crowded semi auto market. But for a low cost, EDC, vehicle, or house gun, and particularly considering the wear and possible, and God forbid, surrendering it will be exposed to, the SD is hard to beat. Is the CZ the better pistol? I would say yes. Is there a reason to rule out the SD9VE? No.

We'll see what happens.

getting this one bumped to top, to get the spam post off the top.

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You do your due diligence, and roll the dice. What else is there, if you don't have a firearms mentor to lend you guns until you determine what works best for you?
I've only been CC'ing for 38 months and the CZ is my fifth EDC and my husband's third. All good guns, all completely different, but until you live with them a while, you don't get the full picture of how they relate to your needs and abilities. For that matter, it took me some time to understand what my CC needs and abilities were.

Good luck with your hunt.