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CDNN has the SD9VE for $269. That’s got to be the Best Buy in a handgun available today.
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I'm amazed! I remember when Academy used to sell them for $189. Almost bought one, just because they were cheap, but resisted. Then a couple of months later I saw them at a shop that had a special on them, either caliber, $169. Only reason I didn't buy one then, was I didn't have the extra cash available. I went back a few weeks later and all were gone. I agree, I hate the .40 cal too!
They are fine guns, good reliable and inexpensive. My current favorite is the Taurus Millennium G2C. A lot of gun for the money and a much better trigger pull than the aforementioned Smith. I know I'll probably get blasted, but don't knock em if you haven't tried one. Better features than the Glock in my opinion. Maybe not as rugged but fully serviceable!
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I like those Taurus G2 s as well. My big beef is with taurus themselves. Seems like they get a winner and then dump it and come out with a new gun. Parts are a pain to track down as well.
Taurus has dumped a lot of solid guns the last few years. They even dumped the TCP and PT25 which were solid pocket autos. Now they replaced the TCP with the spectrum which has had all kinds of issues.
Smith and Wesson was smart with the SD9. They basically took the tried and true sigma, changed the looks, and told everyone it wasnt a Sigma anymore LOL.
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Remember folks, there were generations of the pistol.
The Sigma was the original.
The SW 9 VE is the one I have.
The SD 9 was different with a front night sight.
Currently the SD9 VE is current with a special finish for the Academy Sports Company.
The current SD series has the equivalent of the Glock NY Trigger at about 10 or 11 pounds.
The SW9VE I have tried and failed to improve the trigger. I'm told the trigger kits for the SD are more effective, BUT now you are heading into SWaMPy territory.
Shooters Firearms & Accessories | In Store Sales Flyer
The SD is listed at $279.99 but there is currently a $25 rebate from S&W.
The SWaMPy Compact is listed at $399.99 and there is a $50 rebate from S&W. Prices from 07-01-2018. YMMV in local pricing.
2018 Summer Savings Promotion | Smith & Wesson
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Who must confess he likes the trigger on the Walther Creed better than the rest of the budget 9mms. I paid $339.99 over the counter for it when it was new.
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Is there some kind of "knock" against the SD9VE?
I ask because I've noticed that on *rmslist and a local gun trader site there seem to be lots of them for sale relative to the number made.
I know nothing about these pistols and have nothing against them. I'm just wondering why I see so many of them listed for sale.
I did a little checking on the Internet and found them going for less than $300 brand new.
What's the story?
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The one variation I want that he has is a European proofed G19 that was imported about 10 or 15 years ago and the G25.
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My Glock 19 has the Euro proof marks. I bought it as a Gen 2 made in 1989. Got a chip in the magazine well of the frame. Took it to Glock, they replaced the frame with a Gen 3 for free. Now has two different serials.
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I live near Orlando, FL and there seems to be more than our fair share of home invasions.
In 2009 I decided to buy a gun for home defense. Looking around the house it became evident that I only needed a gun that was very reliable and accurate at a maximum of thirty feet.
My second consideration was that if I was unlucky enough to use it, the police might take it for evidence.
Gander Mountain had a sale going on at the time for a Sigma 9 or 40 with two mags and a coupon for two more free ones.
S&W has a great reputation so I bought the SW40VE because the gun magazines were very favorable to the .40 at that time.
The only drawback was a stiff trigger pull but I found it did not stop me from eating the bullseye out of a target at my ideal ten yard distance.
I have found this Sigma to be totally reliable and much prefer the grip to similar Glocks I've handled. It feels like an old friend by now and I couldn't care less if someone looks down their nose at it..
Although it is slightly larger than my CCW 9mm pistols it is intended for home defense only.
If I had to do over I would have chosen the SW9VE so I wouldn't have to buy two different sizes of ammo for my centerfire autos.
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Don't waste a minute of your time wondering why there are so many guns like these out there. People buy, sell and trade all the time and these guns due to price are easy to move, I would imagine.
I'm enjoying my SD9 with the fiber sights very much.
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I have a SW9VE That broke two strikers in less than 200 rounds. S&W took care of both times at no cost to me but I cannot trust it
anymore for anything except plinking.
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08-29-2018, 05:51 PM
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I went to Gunbroker and type in my search term and then clicked "used". Here's what came up:
SD9VE - 22 matches
M&P 9mm - 212 matches
Glock 19 - 179 matches
SW9VE - 33 matches
Shield 9mm - 116 matches
Ruger LC9S - 42 matches
My point is that what is available for sale has little bearing on it's quality or reliability. In fact the more popular a gun is, the more often it shows up for sale used. The SD9VE is one of the top ten selling handguns in the US, along with the Shield 9mm and the Glock 19.
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I did a trigger job on my SD40 and my S&W40 as well. Had some failure to load into battery with my S&W, Sent it back to the factory, they did some work on it then when I received it back I took them both to the range and no problems at all now. They even returned the aftermarket trigger spring I had put into it, it has been reinstalled back into my S&W40 all at no charge to me at all. Now that is customer service and I have a hard time deciding what to carry when I leave the Non Rebuplic of Marylandstine...The non free state...
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At those prices it doesn't make sense to dump it, cuz you won’t get nothin for it.
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They are much akin to Glocks; polymer framed 9mm firearms produced in abundant quantity that are reliable handguns in a pinch. Why they aren't held onto is the fact they are reliable but otherwise extremely unremarkable firearms. A Glock is a Glock is a Glock. No one collects Glocks. Tons of people rely on them for self-defense but I'll challenge anyone to cite someone bragging on their collection of tupperware guns.
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A guy at work has probably 20 Glocks. He buys them all. No first gen’s but second gen through five. He showed me a pic of them laid out. So stupid looking. They all look the same. He got the 43 the day it came out. Same with the 42.
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I went to Gunbroker and type in my search term and then clicked "used". Here's what came up:
SD9VE - 22 matches
M&P 9mm - 212 matches
Glock 19 - 179 matches
SW9VE - 33 matches
Shield 9mm - 116 matches
Ruger LC9S - 42 matches
My point is that what is available for sale has little bearing on it's quality or reliability. In fact the more popular a gun is, the more often it shows up for sale used. The SD9VE is one of the top ten selling handguns in the US, along with the Shield 9mm and the Glock 19.
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Frankly, I’ve only seen two used SD9VEs for sale at shops in the past five or so years. Both were listed at about the same price as a new one from an on line seller. Given that shops typically offer 50-70% of what they believe they can sell a used gun for there isn’t much incentive to trade one in, much less sell it outright. If a shop has to sell a used SD for about the price of a new one, most people will probably buy the new one if only for the warranty. I like the SD9VE that I have. It’s really all one needs in a SD pistol. I think the SD9VE is the modern version of the Model 10 revolver (yeah, I know some will argue the trigger, but I find it manageable with practice). If could find a used SD9VE for about $175-200
I’d have another
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A functional pistol at a cheap price.
I never bought one due to the trigger feel.
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This was my observation. The ones that I have handled worked perfectly but had hard, heavy trigger pulls.
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They really are great shooters, for not much money, and even have the S&W name on them!
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I don't post much on here don't get on as much as I would like but love the looks, feel and the brand it's a solid firearm from a dang good company and as far as the trigger goes if you can't hit what you aim at with it you might want to figure something else out
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A few years back, the SD9VE was one of the better budget pistols.
Heavy trigger but utterly reliable. Retailed about $269 but often on sale for $200. That’s when I got mine. Keeping it stock. No issues.
Now there are many more options at close to the same price point.
SD’s running $260’s on sale. Ok for a basic no frills pistol.
But Rugers SR9C and Security 9 are close in price.
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A friend of my son purchased an SD40VE on Gun Broker for 160.00. He said he bid on this just for the fun of bidding and lo and behold, he won it. I was a little suspicious of the price be after talking to the friend, he confirmed it. He doesn't like the trigger but may install an aftermarket set up. So good for him, I'm waiting for the range report, which may be at my home range. All in all, a step up from the High Point .45 as his carry gun. And at a good price!
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A friend of my son purchased an SD40VE on Gun Broker for 160.00. He said he bid on this just for the fun of bidding and lo and behold, he won it. I was a little suspicious of the price be after talking to the friend, he confirmed it. He doesn't like the trigger but may install an aftermarket set up. So good for him, I'm waiting for the range report, which may be at my home range. All in all, a step up from the High Point .45 as his carry gun. And at a good price!
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The Apex trigger and spring kit is practically mandatory for these guns. I have them and it's like a brand new pistol almost.
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No prob with Sigma, SW9VE or SD
Liked the first SW9VE so well, I got three
more. The first one is mine, bedside, great fun-gun, range toy, instruction, loaner, etc . . . .
Of the other three, one went to my daughter-in-law for EDC. Next went to my son for bedside, and he really CAN do EDC with it, because he is a big guy.
Third one is waiting for my granddaughter to get her carry permit and then that is her gun - well, hers & her husbnd's first gun.
If you are at all used to shooting a revolver double action very much, you will be no stranger to the triggers on these pistols. Horror stories about twelve pounds are to be dismissed generally as being without proof. Electronic scales give these all around 8.5# to begin,and mine, after 6k to 7k rounds, is a SMOOOOOOOTH 7.5# No, I haven't done any modifications or trigger work at all, in fact, I've never had any of them really apart - only normal field-strip for cleaning.
As for pricing, they are just like used cars - - -what do you want, and what are you willing to pay to get it? Some days, the price is up near new, other times and places, half that for a really good, hardly used one. You just gotta do your shopping.
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I bought a brand new one a few months ago after seeing that the used ones were almost the same price. The trigger does take some getting used to, but its a very reliable trouble free platform.
Its a great entry level pistol at a great price from a reputable manufacturer. The low price creates a lot of interest and sales and S&W is making a ton of them.
Folks are simply moving on to a better pistol (like the M&P series) rather than modifying the SD with after market parts. This is probably why you're seeing so many used ones for sale - not a defect in the pistol at all. Should you decide to modify the SD, you'll be pretty much be in M&P country pricewise. If you buy it and use it as a self defense pistol to be used as a last resort. its great!
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Many years ago I used to heckle those who wore the sd9/40 😔 until one day I was at the range and a friend showed up with one. He was all kinds of excited since the sd9 was his very first semi auto.
Being the person I had to inspect it....... All I could think of was how much it resembled a GLOCK in many ways.....
He loaded a magazine then said you want to be the first to shoot it? I reluctantly accepted. I immediately had comfort when I presented to the B17 silhouette needless to say I was impressed by a gun I once bashed just because of the price!!!! It shoots very nice, the trigger is a little stiff but that is easy to overcome.
After that I began to think about the money he saved by purchasing the sd9 at 299. Vs me paying double for nearly the same thing. If ever in a situation where it has to be used it will be taken from me and will be in an evidence locker for an unspecified amount of time......
Great firearm though
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Bought an SD40VE from a buddy for $200. Less than 50 rnds through it. Defimitely not my first pistol. I see no reason to part with it. It sits on ny nightstand in case something goes bump in the night. Theyre great pistols because I know it's gonna go bang when I want it to.. I would never have bought it but my friend needed the money so at the time I figured I was doing him a favor. Immediately offered it to another friend but he waited long enough that I took it out for a whirl. I'm fine with keeping it.
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Its a combination of grass being greener on the other side and not commiting to a particular firearm design. Enough people say this gun or that gun is better so the owner comes to a conclusion that it will make themselves better....which it wont.
Bottom line is if your good with your Sigma then why would you want to change.
Personally I love the sigma/SD series. I think they are pretty much perfect. I am accurate with them and actually like heavier triggers. They handle like a streamlined glock and dont have the bulk. I also think the sigma series guns are really good looking polymer pistols compared to what has been coming out the last few years. They just had a nice smooth FN type look to them before the sd series.
The only new striker I have like in the last few years is the HK VP9. Nice pistol but it doesnt do anything my sigmas cant do.
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I have to admit my sigma sw40ve surprised the hell out of me the first time I fired it. It don't look like much for power but it packs a nice punch. Accuracy is excellent and i really didn't mind the tight trigger pull. I almost hesitated to buy it because it looks to be a lightweight pistol with not much to it. But like I said it surprised the hell out of me. It's a damn good gun and I'm glad I bought it...
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I have one of sigmas in 9mm and have had for it I think at least 10 yrs and bought it used, but like new from an individual for $200. I fired two mags through it: one of win white box and the other of wolf steel case. I it was because his wife could not handle the heavy trigger and she was going to get a 1911
The super heavy trigger does make it much safer for rough handling. I use mine when land clearing and other similar work about my place. Never jammed. But the trigger also makes it much slower to fire. The long trigger must be taken up slowly and a two handed hold is needed. Much slower to fire deliberate aimed shots from it than a DA revolver. About two years ago a water moccasin rear up in front of me and with a deliberate shot I nearly severed its neck. But just a couple of months ago I was executing a possum in a hole that my dog found. I fired it one hand like I would a glock and badly jerked the trigger. Earlier in the day I have been shooting a bullseye match with a model 41 and was slow to make the readjustment to the heavier trigger.
PS "The sigma was designed from to ground up to handle the 40
"Description. Created in 1994, the Sigma incorporates pre-set striker firing mechanism. It is available in both .40 S&W cartridge and 9×19mm Parabellum being one of the first pistols purpose-designed to handle the .40 S&W. Similar styled sub-compact designs in .380 ACP and 9×19mm were also manufactured."
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