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Old 09-16-2009, 02:39 PM
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I can`t find anything to give me an idea of what this thing is worth? any help would be greatfull.
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Too many variables to give you an accurate value with the information provided. Condition, box, etc. will affect the value. But, maybe $350-500. Possibly more if brand new in box.

Like the other blued .40S&W's, they were only made for a few years in the early 1990's.
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Too many variables to give you an accurate value with the information provided. Condition, box, etc. will affect the value. But, maybe $350-500. Possibly more if brand new in box.

Like the other blued .40S&W's, they were only made for a few years in the early 1990's.
Thank You for the information. I`m not having any luck trading it off for a 357 lever and needed some idea as to it`s value. as soon as I dig up the box i will post it for sale. Jon
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I have a 4014 (and a 4013) in like new condition. It's a great pistol. I obtained a factory letter on it from Roy Jinks. According to Roy, unlike the 4013, the 4014 was not very popular when it came out and only "550 units" were produced. It apparently took them two years to sell the initial run.

I'm in the Thousand Oaks area of Ventura County. If it's like new with the box, send me a PM with sharp clear photos. In any event, good luck.

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I have a 4014 (and a 4013) in like new condition. It's a great pistol. I obtained a factory letter on it from Roy Jinks. According to Roy, unlike the 4013, the 4014 was not very popular when I came out and only "550 units" were produced. It apparently took them two years to sell the initial run.

I'm in the Thousand Oaks area of Ventura County. If it's like new with the box, send me a PM with sharp clear photos. In any event, good luck.
I did not know only that many were made. Maybe i should keep it? I carried it a whole bunch and the blueing is fadding. it is a very hard hitting gun I finished off a bunch of pig`s when I was a Hunting Guide with it. thank you for the info. Jon
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I suggest you keep it. There's not that many out there. Good luck whatever you decide to do. Here are some photos of mine and a portion of the factory letter . . .

Here are my boys (4013 & 4014) together . . .



. . . and the 4014 after a range session. I hate to admit that the two rounds not in the same one hole are . . . well, my fault.



Here's the letter indicating the number produced.


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So what you are saying is I should hold on to the one I just picked up in 95% condition w/4 mags for $250 right?

BTW new member here and looking forward to gaining knoweledge from you guys.
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So what you are saying is I should hold on to the one I just picked up in 95% condition w/4 mags for $250 right?

BTW new member here and looking forward to gaining knoweledge from you guys.
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Let me see, how should I respond to this? Well . . . in a word . . . Yes!

As an aside, many, many months ago I provided this information to Rick Nahas for inclusion in the next edition of Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson. Last month he sent me an e-mailed indicating that the 4014 info, and a few other tidbits of information on other 3rd generation S&W pistols I gave him, will in fact be in the upcoming 4th Ed.
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I just found one of these at my local gun shop. they had it listed as a 4013. I though that was odd. I got to looking up a blued 4013 and came across this post. I have called back to the shop and they are goign to hold it for me.

I recently sold my 4006. It was just too heavy and I would rather shoot my .45, but the fact that there are only 500 or so of these made me want it.

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I just found one of these at my local gun shop. they had it listed as a 4013. I though that was odd. I got to looking up a blued 4013 and came across this post. I have called back to the shop and they are goign to hold it for me.

I recently sold my 4006. It was just too heavy and I would rather shoot my .45, but the fact that there are only 500 or so of these made me want it.

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HA! That sounds like exactly what happen when I found mine. The gunshop had a website where the 4014 was listed as a 4013 with a photo of what I thought sure looked like a 4014. Now at the time I did not know there were only 550 of them, but I knew I had not seen one before. So, I called and verified that it was in fact a 4014 and had them hold it until I could drive the 60 miles to buy it. Besides, I figured it would go great with my 4013 if it was in the same 99% condition.

As you can see from the photo of the two together above, they go together quite nicely.
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I just picked up a 4014 myself on GB for $350 with 2 magazines, which will now join my full size minty 5906. This 4014 looks immaculate. I can't wait to get it shipped to my FFL. I was looking for a 3913 or 4013 when I saw it and was pretty happy to get one this nice for a decent price.

Quick question- is the blued/blackened finish over the stainless slide and alloy frame a type of Melonite? if not, do you know what type of finish it is? I know these 4014's were made from 1990-1993 and as per Denver Dick's letter above, they are described by the factory as having a "blue finish".

Were they doing Melonite in '90-'93? If not do any of you know what finish it is and how to best take care of it?

Thanks!
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I just bought a NIB unfired 4014, well, its been fired since I owned it. great gun, goes well with my 4053 single stack. Keepers!
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Here is my 4014, has just 2 mags thru it....so far.
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Default 4014 and numbering system

If I follow what most folks write about the s&W pistol numbering system, I usually see that an xxx4 designates alloy frame, carbon slide, with both frame and slide blued/blackened.

Yet in the S&W letter in this thread Roy Jinks, Smith historian, clearly indicates that the 4014 has a stainless slide and alloy frame- blued/blackened.

is this an anomaly or are other xxx4's sporting "blued" stainless slides?
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Looking at ILLWIND's pic I thought carbon steel.
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I'll see what happens with a magnet tonight. Most "stainless steels" are non-magnetic, although there are some exceptions depending on the alloy.
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Okay, I missed the stainless steel language on the letter for my 4014 (I was too excited about the production numbers, I guess ), but I believe the slide is carbon steel. I have many, many letters from Roy regarding 3rd generation autos. You should note that Roy has "stock language" that he inserts into each letter discussing a "series" generally. In fact, in his letter regarding my 4676, he has a fair amount of language about the 4526, including production figures (1,365 units of the 4526 and 1,386 units of the 4576).

I checked the factory letter on my 4013, which does have a stainless slide, and the language of that paragraph is the same. I think he just stuck in some "stock" language from his 4013 letters. Keep in mind that I'm sure he's done way more 4013 letters that 4014 letters. If you read a number of Roy's letter you will see what I'm talking about.

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Thanks Denver- I kind of guessed that might be the case. And I've been traveling on business and have not had time to do the magnet trick myself.

I was just curious anyway about the issue. I would love this 4014 whether the slide was stainless or carbon steel.

As much as I like my stainless steel framed and alloy framed/stainless slide 3rd gens, the black ones are really growing on me. Now I just need to find a LNIB/NIB 3914 and a Shorty 40 MK III and I'll be happy (at least for a while....)
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Default hey it's almost as good and it's only $850

Gee- every time I look at my 4014, I realize that I could have paid $850 and gotten this .40 S&W Sig shown in the attached photo.....which is almost as nice as a 4014, almost as pretty as a 4014, and is not made in the USA.....

SIG seems to be doing pretty well making nice, desirable, polymer and metal framed pistols. We can only hope that someday our friends at S&W will wake up and start making runs of 3rd gens or maybe some slightly tweaked "4th gen metal framed pistols"
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. . . As much as I like my stainless steel framed and alloy framed/stainless slide 3rd gens, the black ones are really growing on me.
Hey, don't forget the 6904. I don't have a photo handy of my 6904 by itself, but here it is in a group shot.

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I'll see what happens with a magnet tonight. Most "stainless steels" are non-magnetic, although there are some exceptions depending on the alloy.
VT,
Austenitic - "300" series Stainless Steels like your Kitchen Sink (which contains nickel) is NOT magnetic.

Martensitic - "400" series like those used in gun and barrel making (which just contains chromium and no nickel) ARE magnetic.
It is also capable of being hardened by heat treating.
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