I have been looking for a 45 for just plinking/home defense. Are the TSW models really that much greater than the standard models? I have seen both posted, and besides the rail, I can't tell any other differences. TIA

It's my understanding that the TSW versions were made to be somewhat higher quality and a bit more refined than their predecessors. Similar to the many of the differences between the standard and Police/Wingmaster Remington shotguns.

Of course, that may just be S&W's marketing tactics talking.

There are some noticable differences besides the accessory rail, though. The frame rails are different (more robust, with tighter tolerances), and they feature a delayed-unlocking firing system, both of which supposedly gives them a slight edge in accuracy and reliability.

In addition the things already mentioned, they also have more agressive checkering of the front strap and a beefier frame.

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The slides and frames are also hand matched for tighter tolerances, with assembly number etched on the inside. The rails are also full length, in the box style, to include the dust cover.

So with the choice of both a standard and TSW model in very similiar condition, the TSW would seem to be a much better choice overall.

I wouldn't necessarily say *much* better. If all else is the same (condition, price, etc.) then sure, go with the TSW. But I wouldn't hesitate to snag a standard 3rd Gen at a lower price or in better condition. Both will still be supremely reliable and as accurate as your shooting skills allow.

The TSW represents a better "design" overall, but pistols need to be evaulated on an individual basis. I've got pre-TSW pistols with an incredibly tight lock-up, and I've handled some TSW trade-ins with mismatched slides and a sloppy fit.

Well, the 2 I am looking at the standard is basically new, the TSW has an unknown round count but in good condition. Both have box, papers, and mags, but the standard model is about $25 more. The things I notice different on the TSW are the decocker only and bobbed hammer. Whereas, the standard is almost identical to my 5906.

+1 on that. My 4566 non tsw has never had any issues and it's more accurate than it's owner. And I'm not overly crazy about the rail, looks like a scab-on. (Because it is)

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I'm up in the air about the rail, originally thought it would be a nice addition if I wanted to add a flashlight for home-defense, but that is why I have my 5906 with Crimson Trace lasergrips. The big differences in the 2 I am looking at, is the "decocker only" and the bobbed hammer on the TSW. Just not very familiar with either one of those features, am used to the decocker/safety on my 5906 and having a spurred hammer. I can see where the bobbed hammer would be nice for concealed carry, but I have tried carrying my 5906, and think that a large carry piece like these full-frame S&W is not for me.