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Old 02-20-2010, 01:37 AM
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For those that our interested like myself. I have read that the new bodyguard .380 would sell for $575. Well I just found that Impact guns it taking orders for $449.99. Not a bad price considering it comes with the laser.
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:29 AM
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That's about the price I expected, just waiting for them to hit the display case now.
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$449.50 looks like the MSRP. Not sure that is just Impact's price or not. I might be willing to go that if it feels right in my hand. I don't have gigantic monkey hands but they're not tiny doll hands either. I hope it feels right. I've thought about a Taurus 738 TCP (less than $300) but I'd be willing to go the extra money for an American made S&W w/built-in laser.
I've never shot a .380. Is it a good choice for a CCW? They seem to be real popular as of late but I've read articles stating they are not suitable for a CCW.
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$449.50 looks like the MSRP. Not sure that is just Impact's price or not. I might be willing to go that if it feels right in my hand. I don't have gigantic monkey hands but they're not tiny doll hands either. I hope it feels right. I've thought about a Taurus 738 TCP (less than $300) but I'd be willing to go the extra money for an American made S&W w/built-in laser.
I've never shot a .380. Is it a good choice for a CCW? They seem to be real popular as of late but I've read articles stating they are not suitable for a CCW.
Hey ... the .380 was good enough for James Bond. Wasn't it??

I shot a sheet of 3/4' plywood with my .380 Kel-Tek P3AT. All I can say is that I wouldn't want to get hit by a .380, especially with home defense loads.
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:54 AM
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Hey ... the .380 was good enough for James Bond. Wasn't it??
In fact I believe that Mr. Bond's Walther PPK was, at least in the novels, chambered in .32 ACP (7.65mm).

(Prior to that, in From Russia With Love I believe he carried a .25ACP Beretta).

So yeah - it ought to be plenty!

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I don't recall the exact quote but I believe the reluctant Bond was told he had to upgrade to the 32 because it hit like a brick through a plate glass window. The awesome power of the 32 seems mostly appreciated by the Europeans.
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Old 02-22-2010, 05:41 AM
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the .380 with walmart ammo is in my openion inferior, but with buffalo bores .380 ammo it is plain scary
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The 380 will certainly kill you. While not the best choice in any gunfight, my LCP makes carry possible when I can't carry my 40. I carried (pocket) my J-frame for years when the weather was hot and wearing cover clothes made shoulder or waistband carry difficult.The J-frame seemed to be pulling my pants down and was never comfortable. No joke, you can almost forget you're carrying the LCP in a pocket holster the gun being so thin and light. The Body Guard looks like a nice pistol. The application of a pocket gun doesn't really require a laser, in my opinion, and S&W probably should offer the same model without a laser. Looks exciting, but expensive.
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Just recently shot a Walther PPK 380 (james bond) at the range this pass weekend and loved it....never fired a 380 round before...Snappy lil bugger! Just browsing around the S&W site for what my next potential CCW would be I noticed the Body Gaurd series ads. Very interesting! Cant wait to see them pop up for sale! I might have to consider one
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IF you are interested in pre-ordering a 380, we are taking pre-orders. We, Express Police Supply, are selling them under $400
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Not to cast aspersions, but Impact Guns is rarely the lowest price dealer around. I would bet they sell elsewhere for less. $450 seems high to me even with a laser.
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IF you are interested in pre-ordering a 380, we are taking pre-orders. We, Express Police Supply, are selling them under $400
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Seems like this may be the lowest price around.
When are they slated to start arriving? S&W says May.
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Seems like this may be the lowest price around.
When are they slated to start arriving? S&W says May.
I e-mailed S&W directly and they really couldn't be me any other date than "May."
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S&W BODYGUARD 380 109380 2.75 LASR BLK for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $432.00

They will put you on a notification list when it is in stock.
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We currently have about 30 left on order that are not reserved yet.

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I am considering the Taurus PT738 (US made also I hear) and like it's clean no-snag build. For my daughter I like the Smith because I anticipate an element of deterrence with the laser. It dramatically advertises to the potential target that they are obviously facing something out of the ordinary. It may also attract attention more broadly.
I'll have to review the operation of the two guns though. I don't want my daughter to have extra steps to deal with.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:32 PM
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I am considering the Taurus PT738 (US made also I hear) and like it's clean no-snag build. For my daughter I like the Smith because I anticipate an element of deterrence with the laser. It dramatically advertises to the potential target that they are obviously facing something out of the ordinary. It may also attract attention more broadly.
I'll have to review the operation of the two guns though. I don't want my daughter to have extra steps to deal with.
You post presents a "target rich environment."

I will not carry a handgun without a laser primarily because it permits me to remain well trained economically. As an instructor, I view the laser as more important as a training aid than a tactical aid for the non-professional.

More important, however, there is no practical deterrence value for anyone carrying a concealed laser-equipped handgun. I can't think of a scenario where an opponent would have "evaluation time" to be deterred and your daughter (or anyone else) would survive the outcome of providing that amount of time where something bad will happen. And it is illegal in most places to "brandish."

I hope other instructors chime in as well.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:55 PM
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I am anti-laser for the most part. As a Firearms Instructor I am very focused on the fundamentals of shooting (especially instinctive shooting, target identification and point shooting). In my experience; most people can point shoot with greater speed and accuracy than an equally well trained person can shoot with a laser equipped handgun. But I agree that it could be used as a good training aid. Especially in the understanding of how trigger pull effects accuracy and point of aim.

I also agree that a laser would do little in the way of deterrence. If the situation has reached the point that a gun needs to be drawn the next step is up to the bad guy; fight or flight. If he stays the only deterrent should be a chest wound. If he runs that gun needs to go back to concealment asap.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:41 AM
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I don't have a laser, so I can't have someone point it at me to verify this, but I doubt that the laser's beam is very visible to someone unless it's pointing right in their eyes. I'll bet that the 'bad guy' won't see the little red dancing dot unless they are looking down at their chest, and what 'bad guy' will be looking at their own chest? I see little or no deterrence factor here at all...

Now, I can understand a tactical flashlight and its a big, bright beam that leaves no doubt that the intended victim has highlighted the 'bag guy.' This may deter the 'bad guy' who will go pick on someone less prepared.

My $0.02.
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Just can't wrap my arms(hands) around the bodyguard.. I would opt for the Taurus slim in 9mm before spending that amount on something that looks like it is the black sheep of the family. zorro49
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called yesterday, delayed til June. Couldn't pin him down on whether beginning, middle or end.
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Just recently shot a Walther PPK 380 (james bond) ............ my next potential CCW would be I noticed the Body Gaurd series ads. Very interesting! Cant wait to see them pop up for sale! I might have to consider one
I purchased a "really sweet" Sig P232 SS .380 a couple months ago, very reminiscent of my Walther PP .380 in profile, with a larger/deeper (east to west) grip frame, which feels much better in the hand. It's a quality built pistol, and would make a great back-up piece or CCW. See it on Sig web site or at: budsgunshop.com or riverviewsales.net. If anyone out their owns one or is familiar with the P232, give us your feedback.
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called yesterday, delayed til June. Couldn't pin him down on whether beginning, middle or end.
Due to ship the end of June. I've had one on order since March. Will fit in with my P3AT, Walther PPK, and Taurus PT738. I have a ton of .380 ammo.
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Due to ship the end of June. I've had one on order since March............
Nas T Mag - I think you're gonna dig it! The Sig P 232 feels nice, looks nice, and with lots of .380 ammo, you're in! Let us know what you think after you put a few (or several) rounds thru it.
We are talking about the same .380 aren't we?
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IF you are interested in pre-ordering a 380, we are taking pre-orders. We, Express Police Supply, are selling them under $400
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I'm not exactly sure how you are doing that (as I know what the dealer price is) - as far as I know there's only one version of this pistol with the laser, correct?

Based upon what is going on with a similar designed .380 (the Diamond ****, I mean Back) I would not jump into this with any kind of enthusiasm-

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I don't think you can compare the manufacturing, design, and years of experience in the gun industry of S&W versus Diamondback....what do they make, like one gun??


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I'm not exactly sure how you are doing that (as I know what the dealer price is) - as far as I know there's only one version of this pistol with the laser, correct?

Based upon what is going on with a similar designed .380 (the Diamond ****, I mean Back) I would not jump into this with any kind of enthusiasm-
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I don't think you can compare the manufacturing, design, and years of experience in the gun industry of S&W versus Diamondback....what do they make, like one gun??
I'm NOT COMPARING ANYTHING - I'm making a statement about new designs. What difference does it make how long the company has been in business. Look at the Ruger LCP when it first came out
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I have a ton of .380 ammo.
Lucky! I can't find the stuff anywhere! The guy at Wally World laughed at me when I asked. Midway has nothing.
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Shadow SD, I bought a stainless Sig P232 new a few years back
and love it; haven't had any problems at all. The only downside I
can think of: mine has the Siglite nightsights, and when the tritium
in the front sight finally dies, that's it; no way to replace it (according
to the folks at Sig Sauer). No problem, I'll just put a dot of paint over
it, I reckon. Still a very sweet gun.
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I've seen water pistols that look better than that. Ruger's LCP impresses me more.

The .380 will kill. It just doesn't have the power of a heavier round. Not as much leeway, especially on heavily dressed or obese people.

Massad Ayoob tried .380's in the slaughterhouse, on pigs. The snub .38 revolver with the lead HP load fared far better.

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I have a Colt's Mustang in .380 that I carried for quite some time.

One day an incident with a large dog attacking my dog made me question if the .380 had the power I needed for serious work.

I decided "NO", and stepped up to a S&W 640 in .357. I'm no longer worried if a Rottweiler is in the area.

The Sig and the Mustang are both cute, well made guns. I found mine very accurate and reliable. I'm sure the Bodyguard will be a nice toy too.

I still alternate between a 640, a 442, and a Kahr PM 9 though when I want to be sure I can deal with a crisis.
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Lucky! I can't find the stuff anywhere! The guy at Wally World laughed at me when I asked. Midway has nothing.
TDS (tds-us.com) has WWB for $20.50, which isn't as marked up as many other places. They also have the 100rd value pack for $39. TDS is my go-to guys when supplies get scarce elsewhere.

Ammo-to-go has lesser brands for under $20 also.
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Why is it that gun manufacturers have such a hard time coming up with a release date and sticking with it? It's not like making and releasing a gun is anything new. It's frustating to sell a gun thinking that you will be able to replace it in a timely manner, and then the one you want to buy is endlessly delayed with no update from S&W, Ruger or whoever. It's very frustrating.
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If your going to shoot +350 pounders better stick to the manstoppers 10mm .45+P or .357mag... having to penetrate all the blubber will be a tough assignment for a .380 or 9mm

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Hmmm...I think S&W was doin just fine not building a 380. Guess everybody's got to jump on the bandwagon.
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The date of the post can be found on the top left of the post itself.

I have Gold Dots in my BG380. Mine just sits in my truck because it fits in a little dash cubby perfectly.

Since I bought the BG380, I have bought a 642 and I believe the 642 is a superior pocket gun, that's why the BG380 just sits now.

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