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Old 07-21-2010, 08:01 PM
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I've looked at an extremely nice 457 for $350 and a LNIB 5903 for $450. Which do you think may be the better deal? I'm not sure how much the 457 would be as for recoil and follow up shots in that caliber in a small package, such as the 457 but, it is a good deal.
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I love the 457, I want mine back. I had other similar pistols at the time and let it go. $350 is what I call a good deal, I hear the 5903 is a good gun, but don't own many 9's.
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Old 07-21-2010, 08:46 PM
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How did you find the recoil in the 457 since it's a sub compact? I've never shot a sub compact .45 and was curious.
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How did you find the recoil in the 457 since it's a sub compact? I've never shot a sub compact .45 and was curious.
I bought a 457S a few months ago and I recently started shooting it. I don't find the recoil bad at all. The gun really isn't a "sub compact". It weighs about 10 ounces less than a steel 1911 but it is about 8 ounces heavier than a Glock 23. If you are thinking of carrying the gun the 457 is a better gun than the all steel models. I think it is a fun gun to shoot.

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Old 07-21-2010, 10:14 PM
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I had considered the G26 as a carry gun but I've read several incidents lately about folks having problems with the newly designed recoil spring and how the larger spring has in several incidents, over ridden or jumped the flange and caused malfunctions. You don't need that in a carry pistol. It shoots well and I loved it but, that problem alone kind of swayed me from the sub compacts Glock has out with the dual recoil spring.

I think all in all, I'd feel better about carrying a Smith in that they are safer-at least to me. A live round in a Glock only required something pulls the trigger and it goes bang. With the Smith's, you have a decocker/manual safety as well as magazine release in the even someone tries to wrestle it from your hand, they may not be able to figure out how to get it to fire. With the Glock, they only have to squeeze the trigger.

When I said sub compact, I guess I was thinking how it was smaller than the 4566 which is smaller than the 4506.
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If I could find a 457 for $350 I would buy it. I had several of them and each one would put five rounds in one hole at 15 yards if I did my part. The recoil was not an issue and the gun carried well concealed. Alas, each one went "down the road" to fund something else, the last one as a trade on a Glock 30 which sits in the safe.
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I made the decision today to buy the 457 I'd been looking at. Being basically a .45 kind of guy at heart, I just couldn't pass it up at the price and great condition so, it should be getting here maybe next Tues or Wednesday...just in time for a range check on Friday. I'll be ordering a couple mags for it and a new recoil spring...just in case.

I've never owned a pistol with an alloy frame and wonder if the rails need some special lube or just use something like Break Free as I would on a metal frame. Any suggestions about this...maybe some Gun Butter lube?
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I have never seen the factory recommend grease on the rails. I use a small amount of Breakfree. I generally don't shoot more than 50 rounds from a gun at one session. I think I would re-lube an alloy framed gun after no more 100 rounds.

A number of years ago I took the tour of the S&W factory and in the Performance Center one of the workers was talking about lubing the semis. He said that adding a few drops of oil to the rails after 200 rounds was more important than taking the gun down and cleaning. He said that it was only necessary to add one drop of oil to each side of the rails at the back and one drop on each side.

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I have never seen the factory recommend grease on the rails. I use a small amount of Breakfree. I generally don't shoot more than 50 rounds from a gun at one session. I think I would re-lube an alloy framed gun after no more 100 rounds.

A number of years ago I took the tour of the S&W factory and in the Performance Center one of the workers was talking about lubing the semis. He said that adding a few drops of oil to the rails after 200 rounds was more important than taking the gun down and cleaning. He said that it was only necessary to add one drop of oil to each side of the rails at the back and one drop on each side.

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Usually, I take two pistols to the range and fire 50 from each and sometimes I'll go a total of 150 for both. I've never stopped to lube one during that time but, it makes sense do so with an alloy frame. Good advise and well taken.

I hope to try the 457 out next Friday and have already gotten 100 rounds reloaded for it(185 gr Sierra's) and a box of WWB 230 gr fodder. I want to try Speer's 200 gr +P version but I think I'll stay away from +P with an alloy fame.
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It's heavier than my M&P c 45, XD c 45, 24/7 c 45, P220, and almost twice as heavy as my PM45, so I wouldn't think recoil would be an issue. It's not that much lighter than my new, used 4586. I wish I could find one at a decent price.
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It's heavier than my M&P c 45, XD c 45, 24/7 c 45, P220, and almost twice as heavy as my PM45, so I wouldn't think recoil would be an issue. It's not that much lighter than my new, used 4586. I wish I could find one at a decent price.
There was a 457 offered on Gunbroker within the past two days for $275 with no reserve that didn't sell because there were no bidders. The item was # 179901430. I was tempted to buy it even though I have one already.

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There was a 457 offered on Gunbroker within the past two days for $275 with no reserve that didn't sell because there were no bidders. The item was # 179901430. I was tempted to buy it even though I have one already.

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Thanks, I'll check it out.
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