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Old 10-07-2011, 11:22 PM
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I bought a BG380 at Academy Sports for about $345. Like the others I've been reading about the trigger pull is about as long as it could possibly be and still fire. It took me about 45 minutes to get the breakdown pin to move to 6 o'clock and another 10 to get it out. After cleaning, reassembly attempts failed until I held the trigger back after releasing the hammer and slid the rail on. Something clicked and the slide went to its proper position.
I've requested a return label to get it adjusted. I do like the built in laser and found it to be dead on at 40 feet. Hopefully they will make the trigger pull more realistic and find out if the same individual test fired all the BG380s that are having problems.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:04 PM
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I guess after reading this my BG380 will be going back to S&W. I figured the super, super long trigger pull was just something to live with - I just had it on the range with a couple of family members and they were all shocked at how long the pull was.

After a bad P22 and M&P (both with trigger issues) I'm starting to think I'm running out of luck with S&W autos.
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Old 10-30-2011, 08:30 PM
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I guess after reading this my BG380 will be going back to S&W. I figured the super, super long trigger pull was just something to live with - I just had it on the range with a couple of family members and they were all shocked at how long the pull was.

After a bad P22 and M&P (both with trigger issues) I'm starting to think I'm running out of luck with S&W autos.
Nothing wrong with it, keep shooting, it's just tight and you are learning a new gun
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:00 AM
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Mine has a really long trigger pull. Will call Smith about this.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:07 AM
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The BG380 has a long trigger pull. Very long. Normal for this gun.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:39 PM
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This is the best part of the trigger in my opinion. I bought this over the Sig mini 1911 for this reason. If you were to find the threat was not equal to the use of a gun you have a margin of error, decision, call it what you wish but you can change your mind and not fire. With a light short trigger if you stumble or flinch your finger could contact the trigger and it could be a disaster. Just my take on it and you need to make a decision for yourself what is comfortable for you.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:01 PM
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Maybe it's just my imagination, but I think my newer BG has a better trigger than the early one I had. It's still long, but it seems to be lighter. I don't have a problem with the long trigger pull.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:37 AM
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Maybe it's just my imagination, but I think my newer BG has a better trigger than the early one I had. It's still long, but it seems to be lighter. I don't have a problem with the long trigger pull.
Yep, it's a pocket CCW gun, nothing else. I think some guys are thinking they bought a $1,000 1911 target gun...
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:03 PM
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I just got a new Bodyguard 380 and find the trigger to have way to long of a pull. The gun has a safety and doesn't need this. But what I think I'm hearing is that it is designed in and there will be nothing I can do about it but sell it and buy an LCP.
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I just got a new Bodyguard 380 and find the trigger to have way to long of a pull. The gun has a safety and doesn't need this. But what I think I'm hearing is that it is designed in and there will be nothing I can do about it but sell it and buy an LCP.
Did the pull change between the gun shop and your home?

It has a DAO trigger that is long and hard. I like it that way (as does my wife.... I'll leave that easy one for you pervs to jump on.... )
It's a safety thing by itself. I have never used the lousy manual safety they installed on the BG380 so the DAO is my main safety. It takes a deliberate pull to make a loud noise.
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I too have the exact same experience as you describe. Thanks to you and others I will contact S&W for a shipping label. Agreed, this is way to long and hard a pull, and invites laser bobble and easily results in a pulled shot to either side depending upon righty or lefty.

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:06 AM
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I purchased the BG380 for my wife as a CCW. After field testing, we realized she could only fire a couple of rounds before tiring. I fired the weapon as well and had the same problem. I contacted S&W and they were very professional and quick in response regarding a shipping label and details of warranty work. We recently received the repaired product and, while there is a minimal difference in trigger pull, it is still not a reliable firearm. I contacted S&W again regarding the issue. We even tried other models of S&W firearms to provide an example of the trigger pull we prefer. On the second correspondence, S&W seemed to have no concern or solution to the ongoing issue. I plan to trade the BG380 on a reliable CCW and make sure I don't make the same mistake again in purchasing S&W products.
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Well. my second trip to the range with the BG380. First time I shot it at the end of my shooting and I was surprised by the long pull but I was running out of time, stopped shooting and didn't give it much more thought. Today I took it and it seemed to have such a long pull I felt like I was running out of squeeze to get it to roll over and when it finally did I was always off target aim so to speak. I tried and tried but rarely good stay in physical control of my aim while trying to get to the END of go dammit! So when I got home I cleaned the gun and watched the action dry firing. The gun doesn't roll over until you are against the trigger guard. Is this right? I'm serious it always felt like I was running out of finger to get it to fire! I understand the hard pull and long pull for safety and I actually like that but for whatever sakes all the way to the guard? I would be very grateful for some feedback. Do I have a bad gun or is it a bad gun?
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:30 AM
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... Today I took it and it seemed to have such a long pull I felt like I was running out of squeeze to get it to roll over........ So when I got home I cleaned the gun and watched the action dry firing. The gun doesn't roll over until you are against the trigger guard. Is this right? I'm serious it always felt like I was running out of finger to get it to fire!....
Almost same results with my BG380.

It does not touch the trigger guard before firing, but is so close, I could see how some might think it is touching. Not good. Based on reviews, seems normal.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:05 PM
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So, I guess I have to surrender and look for another because if this is normal I don't like it. Ant suggestions?
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So, I guess I have to surrender and look for another because if this is normal I don't like it. Ant suggestions?
Problem is, if you want something small and in the power range as the BG380, they all seem to be lacking something. While the BG380 trigger is not liked, it is still better than most triggers in the small and light pistol group. I went with a Shield 40 for excellent trigger in a pocket carry package, but still a huge gun in comparison to the BG380. Unfortunately, it's all about compromise, and the Shield wins this one hands down.

My finger and hand is sore after 2 magazines in the BG380, just doesn't fit right, yet the wife can shoot 50 rounds without problem. It's her gun now. No problems with the Shield shooting all day long. Even shooting 40 rounds through my S&W 500 is more enjoyable to me than using the BG380.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:00 PM
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Problem is, if you want something small and in the power range as the BG380, they all seem to be lacking something. While the BG380 trigger is not liked, it is still better than most triggers in the small and light pistol group. I went with a Shield 40 for excellent trigger in a pocket carry package, but still a huge gun in comparison to the BG380. Unfortunately, it's all about compromise, and the Shield wins this one hands down.

My finger and hand is sore after 2 magazines in the BG380, just doesn't fit right, yet the wife can shoot 50 rounds without problem. It's her gun now. No problems with the Shield shooting all day long. Even shooting 40 rounds through my S&W 500 is more enjoyable to me than using the BG380.
I agree completely and thanks for your reply. After I shoot two mags I want to put the gun away.I have the Shield 9mm and it truly is a wonderful gun. I am paranoid and maybe I shouldn't be. I want to carry and have no fear of concealment issues (print etc.) and I just haven't found a way to carry the Shield comfortably. It is a little big for the pocket and IWB is tough because I tuck my shirt in and living in SE Florida I wear very light clothing. I'd carry the Shield all the time if I could find a way to do it comfortably and not worry about being singled out because someone figured it out. Any suggestions I'd be very glad to hear them!
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plastic wire tie,put it between your finger and trigger. Pull trigger back to just before it fires and hold it there till you fasten the wiretie around the back of grip.
Put in storage for a week or 2, this should stretch/weaken the spring.
I never tried it , but heard it works.
It wont do anything for the long pull though
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I've had a BG for almost 2 years and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Long trigger pull? Yes, but it's DAO and that's the way they are. I don't use the manual safety, so I prefer the long pull. As others have stated, it might keep you from making a mistake when it matters most.
I did not buy it for a range gun, I bought it because it's a great little carry pistol that is very, very easy to carry, either in a belt holster or in a pocket holster.
The laser? I think I've turned it on maybe three times since I bought it. If it ever breaks, I wouldn't know it 'cause I don't use it. If I ever get into a SHTF situation, that silly laser is the last thing I'll be thinking about.
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I traded my BG380 and have regretted it ever since, have another one on the way. It does have a long trigger pull. It is suppose to have a long trigger pull this is normal for this style of gun. Look at the Ruger 380's and the other's this is designed into the gun. I have a Sig Sauer P290 pocket 9mm that is also very long in the trigger. I would not want a pocket gun that did not have the long trigger pull.
I do believe there is a company coming out with a fix for it but can't remember their name as of yet because I was not interested in it. It will reduce the trigger pull some how. But I would prefer to keep the warranty intact.

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I actully love the trigger on this ccw. It's extremely safe so you got one in the pipe, no need to rack. It's long but you can feel the break point and can come real close to it on next rounds. For me it also adds a relaxed smooth pressure in my palm and helps me get on target quickly. 500 rounds Fed American Eagle and not a single FTF FTE or lock open...that is some clean burning stuff. Hell, I'm in love with this recipe!
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I have pulled the trigger of several BGs. Some pulled nice and efficient (long and stiffer than any other gun it's size) But it worked well.
While some others were down right terrible and useless!!
my friend bought one, and my wife couldn't get it to fire. I tried and nothing. My buddy tried and nothing. Unloaded and tinkered and finally got it to work dryfiring. Loaded and finally got it to fire. Worst trigger pull of any gun ever. This is Not "normal for a pocket gun"!!!

So I've seen the decent ones and the ones that are nearly impossible to shoot.
It's not "supposed to be that way" as some has claimed. I'm guessing those people have a decent one and believe everyone has a BG like theirs.

I've pulled the trigger on kel-tec, diamondback, LCD, TCP, and BG. The BG has been the worst every time!! Even the "good" ones sucked compared to other mentioned guns.
We love our S&W FS 9 and .40. But this BG is not for me.
We now own a pair of TCPs and love them!! Best trigger of the pocket guns hands down. While long for safety reasons, No issues what so ever.
The LCP was ok. Trigger was better than the BG but still heavy. And doesn't hold the slide back after last shot and that killed it for me.
People that have the Kel-Tec seem to love theirs. We love our TCPs. I know..... "Taurus sucks" lol. I'd prefer a s&w but they cost 2x more and have severe trigger issues! So to avoid all this I now have a Shield!! Lol

Yes I know this is an old thread I'm revising. :-)

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My BG is a serial # ECE, Just bought it and shot it two days ago. Now I am a die hard S&W collector… but I was very disappointed with my BG. First I had trouble racking the slide. My friend who I shoot with weekly also had difficulty pulling the slide. When I did shoot my BG it misfired 5 times and jammed twice in 50 rounds. THe trigger pull was not an issue in that I have been shooting my LCP. My laser was right on target. I will continue to shoot my BG, but I am not going to make it my carry weapon.
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Mine is about 2 months old. Serial # KAK XXXX. I have fired approximately 200 rounds but constantly dry fire it while sitting here on the computer. Would guess 500 or so rounds. As stated above, very long trigger pull. Mine breaks about 1/32 before the trigger guard. Pull is under 10# but very consistent. Breaks cleanly. Definitely not a target quality gun but quite accurate for such a short barrel. Wife also had one,
Serial # KAR XXXX traded for a Sig 238. Haven't fired the Sig till next week but very easy for her to rack the slide, not so much with the S&W which was one of the reasons for trading it off. They are almost exactly the same size. Cant see anything of the bottom one when they are laying one on top of the other. Surprised me. I don't like "Plastic" guns but for quick and easy I love my BG. Mine surprisingly came from the factory with the all steel barrel, not the MIM one in my wife's pistol. And the trigger pull is not great but as said above acceptable and consistent. Galloway makes a replacement part(Short trigger bar) that moves the trigger forward a little but no one seems to be able short of changing springs etc) to be able to substantially lighten it without creating more malfunctions, at least that was my impression after reading many threads about this problem.

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Iam new to the forum but I do own a bodyguard .mine has functioned flawless. With over 600 rds of all kinds! But it is a newer model KAM serial # bought in 2013 no ff no ffeed laser works perfect thou I only use it now and then.

I WOULD GUESS my trigger pull is arund 10 lbs but its only my bug so nbd it a do what it was designed for inho mine rides in a De Santis pocket holster in my front pocket I forget its there ! Its NOT a target gun wasn't built for that nor was the trigger but if you take the time at the range to learn the tricks to shooting good groups at 7 yds it can be done ymmv

Iam glad I bought later production run as it has not had 1 single problem I trust it with my life.I guess they got the kinks worked out

Even my take down lever is easy to remove with a figernail and snaps right in place once you know how atleast mine does again ymmv .

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I bought the BG380 for my 71 year old wife who had previously carried a 40 year old S&W .38 special, all steel and now way to heavy. I was warned by a gun shop owner about the trigger pull, but thought he just wanted to sell me a different pistol and didn't think any more about it until today. We had a chance to check her out with her new toy and after several minutes of dry fire we went hot. She started complaining about the trigger 'not working' almost from the first magazine, but I thought she just had to get used to the new feel. I was wrong! It has the longest pull of any of our several handguns. I am much bigger than she is and it clearly doesn't really fit my hand, but I allowed for that and still found the pull too uncertain for my taste. She carries this in a Sneaky Pete holster, not in her purse, and while I don't expect a hair trigger, for my preference and experience it needs to be modified to some extent.
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I got the Galloway kit . Best $ I've ever spent on a gun. Night and day difference!
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UPDATE: Got my gun back from S&W. Fixed! Whatever they did to the trigger made a night vs day difference. I think they did some other fine tuning as well. The laser is dialed right in now, where before it was way off right/low & I had not yet adjusted it. They did throw in an extra free magazine, which I think is the least they could do after really disappointing me with a brand new gun that messed up. Very happy with their customer service though. Reminder of why I spent a little extra on the Smith name & warranty I guess. Will report back with any issues as more rounds are put through it. Hope the other issues I'm seeing here clear up. It really is a great little gun.
I have the same problem shooting low & right + horrible trigger pull. I am security for our little church and bought the 380 so I wouldn't freak out any visitors with my Glock. The weapon is just too dangerous to use in a room full of people. How do I contact S&W? I'd PAY to have them fix it. This isnt my first S&W but it is the first to disappoint.
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Finally got my BG380. Very excited & loving this gun until I put the first shots through it. Something must be wrong.......

UPDATE: Got my gun back from S&W. Fixed! Based on FedEx tracking info, it only spent one full day with them before they had it out the door back to me. Put 150 rounds of various ammo thru it tonight with no problems whatsoever (and yes, I watched the takedown pin somewhat fearfully the whole time - never moved). Whatever they did to the trigger made a night vs day difference. I think they did some other fine tuning as well. The laser is dialed right in now, where before it was way off right/low & I had not yet adjusted it. They did throw in an extra free magazine, which I think is the least they could do after really disappointing me with a brand new gun that messed up. Very happy with their customer service though. Reminder of why I spent a little extra on the Smith name & warranty I guess. Will report back with any issues as more rounds are put through it. Hope the other issues I'm seeing here clear up. It really is a great little gun.
Glad to hear it's all fixed. I like mine.
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I shot my son-in-law's BG380, worst trigger pull I have ever shot. Great package, but I will not purchase, then spend $100+ on a new trigger. Bought a Sig 238. Hoping for a change, as I like S&W products otherwise. Took them years to fix the M&P trigger. Wise up Smith!
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Finally got my BG380. Very excited & loving this gun until I put the first shots through it. Something must be wrong. The trigger pull is soooo long. ...
I think they did some other fine tuning as well. The laser is dialed right in now, where before it was way off right/low & I had not yet adjusted it. It really is a great little gun.
My gun was pulling low and right and was a hard pull. I just got back from my favorite gun store (2nd Amendment Sports in Tucson). Roark checked the laser (it was fiarly good but now it's spot on) and fired 6 shots at 30 feet. His pattern was about the size of a quarter! I have big hand and was sticking my finger too far into the guard near the joint. This pulls the weapon low & right. By using the tip (pad) of my finger the pull is light!
Who said an old dog can't learn new tricks! Woo Hoo!
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Just got my bg380. Took advantage of the 50 dollar rebate. I also am disappointed with trigger pull. I will be contacting sw.
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Just got my bg380. Took advantage of the 50 dollar rebate. I also am disappointed with trigger pull. I will be contacting sw.
I'm curious to know what they tell you.
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I had the BG .380 for about two years and never had a problem of any kind. Didn't even mind the long trigger b/c it was similar to a J frame and I shot those for well over 40 years. After two years the little gun developed the dreaded light strike problem, but only w/WWB ammo and only after 100 + rounds at the range. Rather then waiting for the light strike problem to get worse I got the LCP just before the LCP II came on the market and got rid of the BG. It's a shame b/c I really liked the little Smith but reliability is a must in a SD gun.
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I had the BG .380 for about two years and never had a problem of any kind. Didn't even mind the long trigger b/c it was similar to a J frame and I shot those for well over 40 years. After two years the little gun developed the dreaded light strike problem, but only w/WWB ammo and only after 100 + rounds at the range. Rather then waiting for the light strike problem to get worse I got the LCP just before the LCP II came on the market and got rid of the BG. It's a shame b/c I really liked the little Smith but reliability is a must in a SD gun.
I feel your pain! I have the same exact problem. Mine has over 1,350 rds through it and is starting to have the Weak Strike Syndrome.
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Martybee: You have a choice now, get rid of the gun or send it back to S&W. My M&P340 is my EDC and the LCP fills in when I need something really small, but I after following forums like this I believe there is a diminished return when manufacturers try and make a SD gun this small in anything larger than a .25 acp. A J frame is still the best choice for SD IMHO.
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Martybee: You have a choice now, get rid of the gun or send it back to S&W. My M&P340 is my EDC and the LCP fills in when I need something really small, but I after following forums like this I believe there is a diminished return when manufacturers try and make a SD gun this small in anything larger than a .25 acp. A J frame is still the best choice for SD IMHO.
Old cop: Thanks, I intend putting my BG380 up for consignment at my LGS&R. I have the Shield 9 and intend on making it my SD weapon for now! I keep it loaded with Hornady
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Just got my bg380. Took advantage of the 50 dollar rebate. I also am disappointed with trigger pull. I will be contacting sw.
Yes, have you heard back and if so, what was their reply?

I purchased this online about 2 weeks ago for my wife. We just got to the range today to shoot. We both love how the pistol feels in our hands and the recoil is not that bad for her or myself. The "bad" of this gun shows up on just the 2nd magazine. She could barely squeeze the trigger to fire the first two rounds of the 2nd magazine and after that just didn't have the strength to continue with it. I took the gun and finished the magazine to verify there was no difference between the two. I continued shooting it to test it with 3 different brands of ammo and it ate them all successfully. I could probably use it even though the trigger pull is atrocious and the trigger pull kept me from holding a descent pattern at just 7 yards. It may be okay if needed within "your space", say 5' or so but I don't think I want a thug getting that close to her. The gun was for my wife's SD, so it is not going to work for her. I sent S&W a message with this noted and got a "ticket" number so we're waiting on those results. I also bought her a M&P Shield and she loved the trigger pull on it and she handled it very well, except for racking the slide. It's a bit on the stiff side for her weak hands, <sigh> so I guess it's back to the drawing board unless she's willing to practice to possibly build strength. But we are both seniors and that could be an issue.
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