Model 4004

18DAI · #1 01-31-2011, 03:59 PM

Virtually nothing here about this model. I counted one page of threads where it was mentioned.

Basically a black 4003.

Anyone have one? How is the accuracy? How does it stand up to alot of shooting?

Anyone here actually seen one? In person? Thanks! Regards 18DAI.

FirebirdV8 · #2 01-31-2011, 10:37 PM

I have only seen pictures of 2 separate 4004's. I have a permanant search saved on gunbroker for one of these, and haven't had a hit on it for at since I started it a year and a half ago. I would love to have the chance to pick one of these up, I'm just not sure it will happen anytime soon. I have seen a couple of 4044's up for sale, but didn't have the money to pick them up. I sometimes think a 411 is the closest I'll get to the mythical 4004 in the near future.

mlk18 · #3 02-01-2011, 12:37 AM

Ditto what Firebird said. I have only seen one in all my years of loving Smith 3rd gens, and that was at a gun show. The dealer wanted some serious money for it too. Like performance center money.

mlk18 · #4 02-01-2011, 12:40 AM

A quick search of Google brought up this pic of a 4004 that the owner bought back in August of 2010. The pic is from INGunOwners.com. I would post a link but that is against the rules IIRC.

Grinder · #5 02-01-2011, 12:42 AM

Just a blue 4003
I had one in the collection years ago
Most of the blue models are fairly rare

BUFF · #6 02-01-2011, 12:55 PM

The Model 4003's hold up quite well to a lot of shooting, so there is no reason to think a 4004 wouldn't. The frame material for both guns is the same, just the color of the anodized finish is different.

The 4006 was my department's first issued semiautomatic. They replaced 4 inch Combat Masterpieces/Model 15's. A few of the guys didn't like the weight and bought 4003's. One of them was a good friend and he shot his several times a month for 15 years before he retired. I would pull it completely apart and clean it once or twice a year for him and it was just fine at the end. I saw him a month after he retired and I asked him if he was going to keep shooting it. He said he never really enjoyed shooting handguns and gave it to a relative a few weeks after leaving. I expressed surprise and he said had he known I was interested, he would have given it to me.

While the 4003 and 4004 were made for the same amount of time (1991-1993), I have seen a pretty fair number of 4003's in person but never a 4004.

18DAI · #7 02-01-2011, 02:00 PM

Thanks all!

I've had fairly good experience with the aluminum framed S&W's.

The only S&W in 40 I've owned was a single stack 4013. I did not shoot it that much, and sold it in the divorce.

I'm pretty sure a 4004 will hold up well for me. Now to procure one! Thanks again! Regards 18DAI.

tgardner · #8 12-29-2011, 08:41 PM

After 4 years of searching, I just bought a 4004 off Gunbroker. I did the "Buy It Now" within about 15 minutes of the posting.

snw19_357 · #9 12-30-2011, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Grinder

Just a blue 4003

and you don't see too many of them!

tgardner - So you're the one.

You beat me by about 30 seconds, and I'm a 59x4 guy...

Bartman3562 · #10 12-30-2011, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgardner

After 4 years of searching, I just bought a 4004 off Gunbroker. I did the "Buy It Now" within about 15 minutes of the posting.

Is that the one that was $300, buy it now for $350? It actually made it 7 days the first time with no bid, and was bought on the relist. I wanted to buy, but strapped due to christmas. if that was you, congrats on a sweet deal. Gun looked great.

S&W 4004 .40 SA/DA : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com

sniper47 · #11 01-01-2012, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartman3562

Is that the one that was $300, buy it now for $350? It actually made it 7 days the first time with no bid, and was bought on the relist. I wanted to buy, but strapped due to christmas. if that was you, congrats on a sweet deal. Gun looked great.

S&W 4004 .40 SA/DA : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com

Dammit! Now I want one!

Dparker · #12 09-07-2016, 11:57 PM

Resurrecting an old thread.....BUT since this 2012 post does any one have additional info on this model? Production numbers?? I was fortunate enough to have purchased one a few months back!@
Thanks in advance!

Cheers!!!
David

BLUEBELLYYANKEE · #13 09-08-2016, 07:48 AM

Here is a photo of mine I lucked up on some years ago. I am not 100% certain but I am under the impression that less than 400 of these model 4004's were made. I am a hardcore collector of these 3rd gens and I can tell you that 4004's are among the most rare. I have only seen a couple come up for sale in the last 5 years. Hopefully somebody here can chime in with more information.

Dparker · #14 09-08-2016, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLUEBELLYYANKEE

Here is a photo of mine I lucked up on some years ago. I am not 100% certain but I am under the impression that less than 400 of these model 4004's were made. I am a hardcore collector of these 3rd gens and I can tell you that 4004's are among the most rare. I have only seen a couple come up for sale in the last 5 years. Hopefully somebody here can chime in with more information.

BLUEBELLYYANKEE

Thanks for the input. I too am an avid 3rd gen collector of the more rare/hard to find models. I'm hoping someone has submitted a letter to Mr Jinks (or who ever took his place) for info.

Cheers!!!
David