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Old 04-25-2011, 04:15 PM
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Thinking about buying one, and would like to know your experience with it.
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Finest sub compact 9mm, single stack made by anyone - IF it fits your hand.

Sadly the CS9 did not fit my hand and I went with the finest compact single stack 9mm made by anyone - the 3913.

Reliable accurate little gun. Conceals easily. Consider Big Dog grips too. The only improvement that can be made on the CS9, IMO of course.

Why anyone looking for a compact 9mm would consider anything else is beyond me.

I advise you to buy it, shoot it, love it. Regards 18DAI.
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I bought a new CS9 several years ago, and it was 100& reliable and more than self defense accurate. I sold it recently in "like new" condition because I also had the CS45, and the CS45 was not too much larger but offered the IMMENSELY better 45ACP round..

The only negative you ever hear about the CS9 is the width of the grips.. It your hands fit's 'em (mine did) no problem, but if the grips are a bit too thick for your taste "Big Dog" can fit cha' right up with a set of his thinner "factory customized" thinner grips.

IMO all 3rd Gen Smith pistols are top quality, absolutely RELIABLE, and the CS 9's/40's/45's are becoming more difficult to find (in great condition) every day..

And respectfully, I'd had to disagree with the gentleman who says the 3913 is the "finest compact single stack 9mm pistol made by anyone"..

I believe what he meant to say was, "in his opinion"....

I have a 3913 bought new and while it's a very nice pistol, for me, it's not a better choice than the 3913LS.. I prefer the LS of the two, but again, that's just personal preference.

And I have an HK P2000sk (V3) that I like better than either.. Not because I think it's any "better' as to quality, but because I can shoot mine more accurately and that's probably because the three white dots of the HK are considerably larger than those (Novak) of the Smiths..

I wish S&W had put larger white dots on the 3rd Gen Smiths sights for old farts like myself with declining vision who need all the help we can get in such matters.

I love all 3rd Gen Smiths... I still have the CS45/5906/6906/3913/3913LS and I've NEVER had one fail to fire for me.. I believe the reliability inherent in the entire line of 3rd Gen Smiths is 2nd to none..

Of course, having said that..

I have a Ruger LC9 that is less expensive to buy, actually smaller, thinner, and more easily concealed than any off the above, and it, so far, have also proved absolutely reliable, and MORE accurate (at self defense range) than any of the Smiths..

Of course for personal defense at self defense range ANY modern, quality firearm should offer more accuracy than the average person can take advantage of.

To me the 3rd Gen line of Smith pistols excel in two areas..

1. ABSOLUTE RELIABILITY (Job 1 for my self defense firearm choice)
2. IF bought new, they come with a lifetime warranty, backed by S&W.

Other than that, there are many 9MM sub-compact offerings out there that do a fine job..

Too many choices actually, but IF you decide to buy a new CS9 I believe you will NOT be disappointed..

But, get your wallet out... Nice CS9's are pricey... (deservedly so, because like land, they aren't making any more)

No offense to anyone.

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Love mine, never a problem, acurate for its size at the distances it is made for, great for carry, highly reliable, you will not be disappointed!
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Before I retired from the job, I bought myself a CS9 DAO. No safety/decocker. It is very concealable and the rubber grips fit my hand perfectly. My service pistol was a 5946, before that revolvers, so I am used to double action. I ordered big dog grips, they are on the way, but I may stick with the rubber. Between the stock rubber and a big dog grip, the gun would probably fit anyones hands. It is well balanced. I just picked up a CS45, nice gun, but doesnt feel nearly as nice as the 9. To me the CS45 feels better with the stock rather than the BD grips Get one if you like them.

Other choices are the ruger LC9 or the Rohrbaugh for conceal carry. It's all personal opion, so we are giving them.
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Absolutely, 100 % reliable, with ANY ammo I've shot through it. I love the original grips, but I prefer the flat magazine base plates. You won't go wrong getting one.
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Damn, just checked the price on the Rohrbaugh, you can buy 2 cs9's!
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I love mine, it fits my hands like a glove. I use the original grips, and magazines with the curved baseplates.
100% reliable.
Way more accurate than a little pistol should be.
Thin, carries easily IWB.
Did I mention I love it?
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Damn, just checked the price on the Rohrbaugh, you can buy 2 cs9's!

And...

This is just personal opinion of course, but I believe the CS9 will do everything for you that the fine Rohrbaugh will do with the exception of being extremely TINY...

But, there will be occasions where even the sub-compact CS9 will be too large for reasonable cc, and for those times, the Rohrbaugh can go along for the trip.

I am in the same boat with my Seecamp LWS380, and my Ruger LCP..

The very good LCP has external sights, a Crimson Trace Laser, and is light years easier to shoot, and shoot accurately, than my beloved Seecamp. Actually the only things the Seecamp offer over the Ruger is quality of construction, and being extremely TINY....

The LCP is easier to clean, easier to shoot, easier to shoot accurately, and overall is an excellent choice for cc in a 380cal. mousegun, BUT there are times when even the small LCP is too large for cc in a rear pocket, so for those times the Seecamp is the only game in town.

The Seecamp so so tiny in comparison that you can actually put it in a shirt pocket if you wanted to. And I have actually done that..

Seecamp in the shirt pocket, LCP in the rear pocket...

Now all I have to add is my Ruger LC9 in a FIST iwb and I'm set?

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my Seecamp(s), just as Rohrbaugh fans love their classy 9's, but with the exception of extremely small size there are other, often actually better, and cheaper, options to the unique and high quality Rohrbaugh's and Seecamps of the world.

Lest you think I'm coming down on my Seecamp LWS380 that's not the case. I would sell EVERY firearm I had before the Seecamp.. The Seecamp can go anyplace, anytime, period, and it will offer me 6+1 rounds of 380cal jhp's with absolute reliability if needed.

But when circumstances allow I DO chose to start crawling up the size and caliber ladder for cc because I believe most of us subscribe to the "bigger caliber offers bigger holes" and "the bigger the hole, the better" theories...

I know I do....

So at my house for cc it starts out with my Seecamp LWS380, followed by Ruger LCP, followed by Ruger LC9, followed by HK P2000sk, followed by S&W CS45.

After that I mosey into 12ga. riot shotgun territory for personal defense....

But even when I'm carrying a larger pistol I STILL have either the Seecamp or LCP in my back pocket...

Lord knows no offense to Rohrbaugh, or fellow Seecamp pistol owners as we know both to be the top of the mark for quality of construction and desirability in their particular calibers and concealed carry..

Just telling it as I see it.

(Old farts like myself often have a bad habit of that..)

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Just telling it as I see it.

(Old farts like myself often have a bad habit of that..)

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Hi Jesse,

As one old timer to another, how do those very small or “tiny” semi-autos compare in concealability with say a 649 body guard in SS.

For me personally once you go below a 3913 in size, I don’t see much advantage in a semi-auto over a quality revolver. This appears even more so it the gun is primarily a backup. For a long time I tried to talk myself into getting a CS9 or a CS40, but the pure simplicity and near total reliability of a snub nosed .38 with Plus P rounds just kept me out of the very small semi-auto market.

In fact I was totally a wheel gun person up until S&W began making their third generation pistols. Until then my luck with even quality semi-autos was such that I did not trust them for self-defense. Until I got my first S&W third generation pistol I simply carried a .357 magnum or a .38 for my primary concealed carry gun.

Over the last few decades the semi-autos have gotten much better and I now primarily carry a S&W semi-auto (3913 or 4013 or one of their cousins) for my primary concealed carry weapon. If I carry a back up it is a S&W 649 in my pocket.

I simply don’t see sufficient advantage in using a tiny semi-auto for a back up when a snub offers almost the same fire power and is just so much more simple and clean as a machine.

The only real advantage I can think of would be that the very small or tiny semi-autos are easier to conceal, and that is why I was asking the question as I have never really compared their size to a snub nose revolver like the 649 or even one of the air weight variants of the 649.
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The only real advantage I can think of would be that the very small or tiny semi-autos are easier to conceal, and that is why I was asking the question as I have never really compared their size to a snub nose revolver like the 649 or even one of the air weight variants of the 649.[/QUOTE]


Hi finesse:

Well, thanks for asking, and I'll be happy to share my OPINION with you.

First I don't believe there is an advantage in carrying a very small, or tiny pistol vs a quality snub nosed revolver, EXCEPT for size and ease of concealment.

The first revolver I lusted after (1966) as a young man was a used nickle Colt Cobra for sale in a small grocery store near Lovett, Ga. This was in 1966 or so, and the price was a whopping $65.00.

I didn't have a whopping $65 at the time, but I never lost my appreciation for the old D frame Colt..

I guess that's the reason I have 2 Cobras, one Detective Special, and two J frame Smiths (nickle 49 & 638) in my little inventory at my old age...

Anyway, IF I could reasonably carry a snubby concealed I'd have one of the old Cobras in an iwb in a heartbeat, or even the 638 w/CT Lasergrips, but the truth is I simply cannot do that nearly as easily as I can carry a smaller, thinner LCP or LWS380 in a back pocket...

The thickness of the revolvers cylinder bulge precludes that..

I'm a runt (5'9" and apparently shrinking daily as I age) and in Georgia in the summer it's almost impossible to wear an "outer shirt" or something to hide anything worn in an iwb holster.

I CAN put my Seecamp or LCP in a rear pocket holster and go about my business and forget it's there... It's light, it's easily accessible (you have a choice, wallet or pistol to a bg?) and completely concealed...

My personal LCP has the Innovative Arms sight upgrade and a Crimson Trace Laser.. It has been absolutely 100% reliable and MORE than accurate at any self defense distance.

Until I found the Seecamp and LCP I could simply never find any other pistol/revolver that I could carry concealed under all conditions. The size of any other choice required an iwb holster that either was not 100% easily concealed, ALL THE TIME, or not 100% COMFORTABLE, concealed, ALL THE TIME.

I can carry my Seecamp or LCP in a rear pocket Hedley Holster, and it vanishes... Period.

No concerns for weight, all day long.. No concerns for "printing", or having someone become aware I'm carrying... No fuss, no muss, and that "no fuss, no muss" business is why some folks leave their hand cannons at home and travel WITHOUT a concealed firearm on many occasions.

During the season when I CAN wear an outer garment and I have to leave my home "comfort area" I have all sorts of choices, and most of them offer me MORE firepower than the neat snubby's.. Or, a pistol offering eleven rounds of 9, or 7 rounds of 45ACP (CS45) can be carried as easily as can a D frame Colt, (6rds), or a J-frame Smith. (5rds).

But even at those times I carry a larger pistol I can STILL have the mousegun in the back pocket... I think of it as "free insurance" as there is no penalty (weight/comfort) for taking it along...

I would never sell my Colts.. I love those suckers.. I think of them as the "high water" mark for quality in an American made snubby revolver.

But they are simply not the best choice, for me, for cc.

In fact I use one in each of my vehicles, hidden, but instantly accessible.. I think they are perfect for that duty.

I've been carrying (legally) since the summer of 1966... Four and 1/2 decades of trying different modes of cc and different pistols and revolvers has led me to where I am today, and where I am today is carrying a puny 380cal. mousegun in my back pocket..

Not perfect, and all those folks who think that if a round doesn't start with a "4" it's worthless would never consider carrying such a thing... I have no argument with their thinking (altho of course it's wrong) but my experience tells me there WILL be times and situations when the ONLY pistol you can carry concealed HAS TO BE tiny..

Tiny "don't come" in 45cal.. (derringer? 2rds? No thanks)

Tiny "do come" in 380cal. (And I've got a good one)

And even better...

EXTREMELY TINY "do come" in the classic Seecamp pistol..

I've got 'em all.. I have all the choices, and I never leave the house, be it to the mail box or to town without a pocket holster in my back pocket, within nestling a firearm that, even of small caliber, will be available, and easily withdrawn in a split second....

Works for me.

Might not work for someone else.. (but that's their problem).

Thanks again for asking, I'm an opinionated old fart and love sharing..

Best Wishes,

Jesse

P.S.. And another reason to consider an alternative to snubby carry in a firearm of larger caliber than the 380 is because there are several small 9's coming on the market today that are obviously slimmer, smaller, and easier to carry concealed, and most folks agree the 9MM round is superior to the 39cal round, AND the pistols offer a higher capacity than the snubbys.. (I just bought one, a Ruger LC9... It's SWEET.. Like an LCP on steroids, but in 9MM..)
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I really shouldn't say this as like a lot of you I'm torn between being an evangelist for the 3rd gen S&W pistols and then being a greedy ******* and wanting to keep them a secret......

But it always comes up that CS9's, 40's, and 45's, and likewise the 3913 and related Smith's are "really expensive". However; compare the cost of these guns to any other comparable gun in production today and it's actually a bargain on many cases.

If you want an all metal (either all stainless, alloy/stainless, or carbon steel) frame and S&W quality in an American made (or for that matter German, Czech, and a handful of other countries) gun, the list is very small, and the price is much higher. In full size all metal guns you have the Browning Hi-Power, Beretta 92FS, CZ's, and a few others. If you're looking for a compact gun that is all metal and well made, you're now looking at the Kimber Solo ($800?) and only a few others that are mostly compact 1911's. ($900 and up).

I see LNIB and NIB 3rd generation compact Smith's going for $400-$700 all the time, with a few guys asking $900 and $1000 (but these don't seem to sell at those prices). I see a lot of LNIB/NIB CS9's, 40's and 45's in the $550-$650 range.

For what you're getting this seems like a real bargain. Yes, you might have to search a few of the popular sites for a few weeks or months but nice 3rd gen's at reasonable prices pop up.

Note that I'm not comparing the above mentioned prices to any prices for new polymer guns. Like other posters here, I really like the LC9's , M&P compacts, and other similar weapons for the tools that they are. but there is no comparison to a CS9 or any other compact 3rd generation S&W. $500 for a M&P compact or $500 for a LNIB 3913/4013/CS9? I think the 3rd gen's are twice the gun compared to a M&P, and a M&P is a quality gun.

My son has a Walther PPS which is probably one of my favorite polymer framed semi's and I would carry it any day, but it does not compare to a CS or 3913.

In the last two months I picked up a 5906 for $375 that is LNIB/absolutely mint and a LNIB 4014 for $350. To me this a no brainer.If these guns were in production today, you wouldnt think twice about paying $750. Heck, a full size Remington 1911 goes for $675 or so.

Even at $500 or $600 a LNIB CS gun is a bargain.

I saw a blackened Shorty Forty NIB for $1000 on one of the major gun sales sites that I think is also a real bargain. With all the renewed interest in quality all metal 1911's, coupled with the surge in Concealed Carry permit holders, S&W is crazy not to bring out a line of compact alloy framed/SS slide guns like the Chief's Specials, 3913's, and Shorty Forty's again and price them in the $700 range.

Like a few of the posters above I probably like the feel of a 3913 size slightly better than the CS guns, but then again I like the extra conceal-ability of the CS. You can't go wrong with a Chief's Special.

OK I will conclude and say- the Chief's Specials really suck and are way overpriced and are "dated technology"...............

(since I will be looking for another one in about two months and they are getting more scare every day)
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OK I will conclude and say- the Chief's Specials really suck and are way overpriced and are "dated technology"...............
I completely agree with this assessment. The Chiefs Special models all suck. If you find one for sale, do yourself a favor and pass it up.


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I own a CS45 and love it. Paid through the nose for it but I had followed prices closely and this was the first NEW in box I had found. I wouldn't trade it. The CS9 I have heard nothing but good things. I am just a fan of the 45acp and reload them. As for sub-compact 9s. If you are considering a Ruger LC9 I would look at the Kel-Tec PF9 as well.
The Ruger LC9 is almost an exact copy of the Kel-Tec PF-9 with enough small changes to keep them out of legal trouble. The Kel-Tec is a good pistol, every bit as good as the Ruger and $100 bucks cheaper.
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It would be very helpful to see a side by side picture of the CS9 and the 3913 to see just how much more concealable the CS9 is that the 3913. The last two posts have almost convinced me to avoid these cheaply made CS9's like the plague, but just for curiosity sake I would love to see it side by side with the 3913 as I had not realized they were that much more concealable.

Not that I would ever consider one of course given all the above negative reviews, especially those negative reviews from people actively searching for a CS9 or CS40. Still, I suppose there are many times in life, such as when at the beach or when playing volleyball, that the ability to conceal your weapon is sufficiently important to consider even an unreliable weapon to be better than no weapon at all.

Getting back to reality, in a slightly less tongue cheek manner, I do have a question about the CS line. Are all CS9, CS40, CS45 compacts double action only or are they also made in traditional double action as well?

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In answer to your question on action ... They were made in TDA (traditional double action, or, DA/SA) and DAO (although much harder to find).
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Thanks for the pictures Fastbolt,

The pictures you posted are very helpful, especially the last one with the CS9 side-by-side with the 649-sized revolver. While the 3913 will fit in some of my pockets (without a holster) in a pinch, it is too tight to be drawn quickly, at least consistently quickly. The 649 snobby however fits with ease and is easily drawn using a pocket holster.

The CS9 appears to be very comparable in size to the 649-sized snub nose revolvers and would therefore be a very handy concealed carry pistol. Also I have been surfing around the internet and it is difficult to find anyone with a bad word to say for the CS9.

Since I do not wear a pistol around the house, it is nice to have a solid pocket pistol to slip in my pocket when I make a quick short trip out. I typically carry a 3913 or 4013 in an IWB holster that requires time to get and put on especially if I take extra mags. A pocket pistol is very nice for such times and also in summer time when I want my shirt tucked in.
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I am a little late to this thread but I bought a blued CS9 about 6 months or so ago. I put a set of Big Dog grips on it. It is now my favorite pistol and constant companion.

It conceals well, shoots great, and is a fine all around little pistol. I wish I had found the CS series sooner.
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I too purchased a Blued one a couple months ago and was very surprised and pleased with the way it handles. Just the Hogues on for now.

Why they stopped making them is a mystery??? I'm afraid if I start to like 1911's, they will stop making those too.
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I'm finding that the CS9's are few and far between (and pricey).
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As one old timer to another, how do those very small or “tiny” semi-autos compare in concealability with say a 649 body guard in SS.

For me personally once you go below a 3913 in size, I don’t see much advantage in a semi-auto over a quality revolver. This appears even more so it the gun is primarily a backup. For a long time I tried to talk myself into getting a CS9 or a CS40, but the pure simplicity and near total reliability of a snub nosed .38 with Plus P rounds just kept me out of the very small semi-auto market.

In fact I was totally a wheel gun person up until S&W began making their third generation pistols. Until then my luck with even quality semi-autos was such that I did not trust them for self-defense. Until I got my first S&W third generation pistol I simply carried a .357 magnum or a .38 for my primary concealed carry gun.

Over the last few decades the semi-autos have gotten much better and I now primarily carry a S&W semi-auto (3913 or 4013 or one of their cousins) for my primary concealed carry weapon. If I carry a back up it is a S&W 649 in my pocket.

I simply don’t see sufficient advantage in using a tiny semi-auto for a back up when a snub offers almost the same fire power and is just so much more simple and clean as a machine.

The only real advantage I can think of would be that the very small or tiny semi-autos are easier to conceal, and that is why I was asking the question as I have never really compared their size to a snub nose revolver like the 649 or even one of the air weight variants of the 649.
I used to feel the same way and always had a snub j frame. Until my son (3 years old) asked to see it one day while I was putting it away. I unloaded it, and handed it to him cylinder open. he took it, closed the cylinder, cocked the hammer, and pulled the trigger. i never taught him how to do any of that. So the j frame was sold and a CS9 is now my carry piece. I am human, and we all make mistakes, and I just feel a semi auto with a manual safety and a mag disconnect is the way to go. I am very strict on putting the gun away when I come home, but can't say for 100% sure that ONE DAY I might be lax, especially with a screaming infant and my son chiming in. When I come home, I take the mag out when I come home and put it in a pocket until I can put them away. I am actually looking at the LC9 to replace my CS9. Same features I like, but smaller and lighter.

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I bought a blued CS9 a few weeks ago, after looking for one for a few months.

$425 buy it now on gunbroker.com. Came with box, papers, 2 mags. Other CS9s I'd been looking at were in the $550+ range, and were stainless (I prefer a blued gun).

I also bought a few 3913 mags to use as spare carry and range mags, and swapped the curved baseplate off the CS9 mag for a flat one from a 3913 mag to aid in concealability. I actually like the shorter grip offered with the flat baseplate.

I have since ordered more flat 3913 baseplates from Smith ($3 ea), just received my FIST OWB holster, and am looking for a set of Big Dog grips.

Range time was uneventful. As accurate as my Glock 26, no problems x 200 rounds, comfortable to shoot. I used range ammo (Blazer 115 FMJ) and carry ammo (Hornandy Critical Defense 115).

I only have two complaints:

The Hogue grip catches on everything which isn't so great for a pocket sized gun. It is very comfortable and I like the look of it, though. Normally I buy a Hogue for every gun I carry but in this case I'm going the other way...

When I load a round in the chamber and then strip out the mag to top it off, the next round tends to get shoved forward slightly and causes the mag to stick a bit. You have to "rip" it from the gun. Not sure if this is a common issue but it hasn't affected reliability in any way.

Overall, it's a great little piece, and once I put a thousand rounds or so through it I will probably replace my Glock 26 with it for every day off duty carry.
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When I load a round in the chamber and then strip out the mag to top it off, the next round tends to get shoved forward slightly and causes the mag to stick a bit. You have to "rip" it from the gun. Not sure if this is a common issue but it hasn't affected reliability in any way.

Overall, it's a great little piece, and once I put a thousand rounds or so through it I will probably replace my Glock 26 with it for every day off duty carry.
Common practice with S&W 3rd gen's. It's happened to my 5906, 5903, 915, 6906, 3913, and my blued CS9. Doesn't affect function at all. Just something 3rd gen's do.
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When I load a round in the chamber and then strip out the mag to top it off, the next round tends to get shoved forward slightly and causes the mag to stick a bit. You have to "rip" it from the gun. Not sure if this is a common issue but it hasn't affected reliability in any way.
I read on another forum of a guy who loads the +1 round with a mag that only has 1 round in it. Then he puts in the full mag. Just another way to skin that cat.
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What $ amount are you talking about for the definition of pricey?
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Common practice with S&W 3rd gen's. It's happened to my 5906, 5903, 915, 6906, 3913, and my blued CS9. Doesn't affect function at all. Just something 3rd gen's do.
Ah, thanks. My two previous 6906s never did that. It wasn't of real concern, just mildly annoying.
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I'm not sure why they are seen as "pricey" in most cases as they usually go for $400-$650 LNIB or NIB condition.

Maybe that is pricey compared to a new polymer gun manufactured in 2010/2011, but does not seem pricey compared to Rohrbaugh's, Kimber Solo's, and any of the compact and subcompact 1911 variants made by quality manufacturers.

They also don't seem pricey compared to several of the other metal framed quality compacts in the Beretta 85 .380 and Browning BDA categories.

I know right now where I can buy a CS9 - NIB (estate sale piece) for $599. I've seen them go for as low as $399 LNIB. That seems like a fair deal, if not a bargain, for a high quality, alloy framed very accurate little American made pistol.

Oh, time to quit posting on the forum, as my FFL just called and said he is back in town, my FBI background check is approved, and a LNIB 4014 is ready to pick up! Photos later today!

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Before I retired from the job, I bought myself a CS9 DAO. No safety/decocker. It is very concealable and the rubber grips fit my hand perfectly. My service pistol was a 5946, before that revolvers, so I am used to double action. I ordered big dog grips, they are on the way, but I may stick with the rubber. Between the stock rubber and a big dog grip, the gun would probably fit anyones hands. It is well balanced. I just picked up a CS45, nice gun, but doesnt feel nearly as nice as the 9. To me the CS45 feels better with the stock rather than the BD grips Get one if you like them.

Other choices are the ruger LC9 or the Rohrbaugh for conceal carry. It's all personal opion, so we are giving them.
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Who makes the Big Dog grips and do they make them for a 3913LS - I would like to take the gray grips off and replace them with black.
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I would like to take the gray grips off and replace them with black.
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The CS9 is the way to go.It was my choice for 9mm semi auto pistol because it fit my small hands so well.Two improvements you can make are to get a set of Big Dog's CS9 Grips to replace those nasty hogue grips.With me and a few other CS9 owners we noticed that it shoots a little low to point of aim with the novak sights.I found that this was corrected with the instillation of Trijicon Night Sights and this was verified by a few other CS9 owners who got the same results when they followed suit.The last thing I did was to convert my CS9 to DAO because I am a long time revolver shooter and I like the longer trigger squeeze on each round just my personal preperence....All the Best and God Bless...Mike
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Big Dog makes Big Dog grips.

They grips appear to me to be factory 3913 grips that are cut down, albeit very professionally done. They are only made for the CS series. Therefore, you don't want a set of Big Dog grips for your 3913. As noted, just order the factory grip from smith... it's $18, buit most likely backordered.
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I HAVE THE S&W CS9, CS40, CS45 IN SS 3RD GENERATION. THIS MAKES MY COLLECTION COMPLETE. I HAVE FIRED ALL 3 NUMEROUS TIMES AND ENJOY THE HANDLING AND FIRING EXPERIENCE OF THESE WEAPONS, THEY ARE THE BEST COMPACTS IN MY OPINION EVER MADE. RELIABLE, ACCURATE, SHOOT FOREVER. I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER FAVORITE, S&W 3913 9MM COMPACT, AN EXCELLENT GUN. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A CS 9, DON'T GIVE UP, HARD TO COME BY. BY THE WAY I ALSO HAVE A S&W 908SS ON THE FORUM FOR SALE LNIB W/ 2 MAGS. ANOTHER HARD ONE TO FIND. GOOD LUCK
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CS9......I want one.
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Contact Tim Thurner at TT Gunleather:

TT GunLeather High Quality Leather Gun Holsters

Tim made me an awesome holster for my compact 4014. (IWB style). He makes a fully custom, extremely nice holster for 3rd gens, at a lot less price, and a lot quicker than other holster makers.
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I picked up a CS45 a couple months ago. It was $300, and I bought it to re-sale and make a quick buck. I shot it, and it was pretty amazing. I figured I would carry it a couple days then sell it. It never leaves my side now. SOOOO comfortable to carry, extra comfortable after I had a holster made for it. Best part, custom leather holster made to fit....$45. Oh yeah custom tuckable holster. This gun was meant for me. I just saw somebody posted one here for $700. Starting to feel like I hit the lottery.
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I have wanted a CS 9 for ages. But I just can't justify the cash for now. Someone commented on an HK and how the sights are more distinguishable. That really resonated with me as my EDC is a P30. Not too long ago I was considering having a BUG that was the same caliber as my EDC and went in earnest to look for a single stack. I went to the range with a buddy and brought my Sig 232 that was/is my current BUG. Funny, that day, I shot the eyes out (literally) with that little Sig. Even better than my HK. That was the end of my same caliber hunt.

ps. I still think the 3913 is the finest single stack 9mm out there...IMHO!
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[QUOTE=18DAI;135930917]Finest sub compact 9mm, single stack made by anyone - IF it fits your hand.

Sadly the CS9 did not fit my hand and I went with the finest compact single stack 9mm made by anyone - the 3913.

Reliable accurate little gun. Conceals easily. Consider Big Dog grips too. The only improvement that can be made on the CS9, IMO of course.

Why anyone looking for a compact 9mm would consider anything else i
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All about the fit with the CS9. Great gun if it fits your hand. Very accurate little recoil and conceals well. I found the Shield is a better carry gun, but that's me.
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Finest sub compact 9mm, single stack made by anyone - IF it fits your hand.

Sadly the CS9 did not fit my hand and I went with the finest compact single stack 9mm made by anyone - the 3913.

Reliable accurate little gun. Conceals easily. Consider Big Dog grips too. The only improvement that can be made on the CS9, IMO of course.

Why anyone looking for a compact 9mm would consider anything else is beyond me.

I advise you to buy it, shoot it, love it. Regards 18DAI.
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I have a CS9 on the way from a fellow forum member.
Found some info on it and from what I see I high expectations .
It seems the CS9 can use a Glock 26/27 holster I hope this is correct since I will be tooled up with a couple on hand.
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A change from wheel guns could be an option.
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I'm fortunate to have two of them. I have an early blue CS9 tuned up by Novaks. I also have a stainless CS9D -- DA only. I actually prefer the CS9D. Too many years of shooting double-action revolvers I guess.

My early CS9 is not the most accurate of guns -- at least not in my hands. It is reliable though and easy to dump fast shots on target at reasonable distances. The DA only CS9D is more accurate in my hands. I bought Big Dog grips for both of them with made them easier to conceal.

I bought a Shield but find myself still preferring the CS9s. Wish they still made them.
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