If I ordered and paid for a NEW S&W of any model I wouldn't expect any part to be scratched. S&W should replace it, then sell the original gun as a scratch and dent. You get a new gun, Somebody gets a slight blem at a good price and S&W doesn't lose money on the deal.

I was wondering how you keep a slide-stop from rubbing the frame on a 1911?

I purchased mine used a couple of months ago. It has scratches in a couple of places. If I had bought it new I would have been upset but mine has other issues such as fail to chamber and had to replace the factory recoil spring with a Wolff 18 lb to solve the issue. Still have an issue with it ejecting brass at my forehead. Overall a great gun and very accurate.

I'm a huge two-tone fanatic as well, and went with the *other* two-tone SW1911:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

I love my 178011 and have had no problems with fit or finish.

- Dave

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Ejecting the occasional brass at your forehead was it's unfortunate bug. Mine did the same thing...back to Smith...quick turn around and no more brass at my head. Give it up for a couple of weeks and send it back for the extractor adjustment. Kind of a pain but for me it needed to be addressed.

Don't let this thread be the determining factor on your 1911 decision. Smith makes a fine 1911...I have two and would buy again. My son-in-law has the Ruger SR1911 and likes it (he is a Ruger guy) but the only reason he has a 1911 is the fact that the fell in love with my Smith after shooting it a couple of times.

The Smith and the Ruger 1911's are both fine, American made guns and I'm sure you would be happy with either one. Not sure Ruger makes a commander size, though.

Wondering what S&W had to say about the slide-stop problem?

I never get it when people post photos of their obviously new or little shot pistols and claim they work great.

I see it a lot with Kimbers too.

I’ve shot action pistol games for years and worked as a Police Officer.
If pistols are shot say 10,000 rounds and holstered and reholstered they show honest wear.

This gun does not. I think it runs fine sitting in the gun safe.

I gave up on Colt and Springfield in 1996 and bought two Wilson Combats.
I think you have to spend the big money if you want a durable 1911.

Your S&W should be a dream gun with light frame and bobtail. Instead it’s a ****. That aint right.

Emory

"I never get it when people post photos of their obviously new or little shot pistols and claim they work great.
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I never get it when someone posts thinking they know something about someone else when it's obvious they can't...

Absolutely!!! To say a customer, who purchased this NIB gun in good faith, is "over-reacting", is ridiculous

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Sorry as of course you may be right.
He could have taken the photo b4 coming to the conclusion the gun is reliable.

However that is not a photo of a gun that's been shot or carried much.

Emory

Maybe they have a crystal ball.

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unacceptable, if my 1400 dollar gun is going to get scratched, it will be by me, not some incompetent shelf stacker. I have had many expensive guns, they d eventually get a mark here or there, "if you use them" some people don't". I have seen guys send a special truck to pick up a new 500 twin turbo Mustang because they wanted it with zero miles on it. For a couple hundred grand you can expect to be treated special. It's your right when you pay for an expensive item to request exceptional service as you are paying for an exceptional weapon, Granted it's not a 5000 dollar 1911, but this should be the same no matter what it costs. And more so for items that have a high dollar value.

Most of today's manufacturers aren't in business because they prize craftmanship or strive to be the best, they're in it to make as much money as they can. This seems true for many firearms manufacturers these days (maybe because of the many mergers and buyouts). Let's be honest, quality control adds to the cost of production. Thus, quality becomes a balancing act, i.e., how little can they get away with before the number of complaints and returns cut into their profits.

So, the more that folks "settle" instead of demanding quality (quality also means fit and finish), the less quality they'll get.

Since I expect so little from today's manufacturers, I inspect all products I buy over the counter very, very closely to lessen the chance that I'll have to go through the hassle of a return.

Just my $ .02 on the matter.

All the colored alloy framed pistols get finish wear behind the slide stop...at least every one I've ever seen in person.

A 1.5k 1911 is an average priced gun not a work of art.

The real bummer is that if shot a lot the frame can and will crack. Most people, however, won't shoot 20k rounds through a gun in their lifetime.

ETA:
**Warning - Necrothread!**

I really like mine. I prefer it to my Nighthawk.

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John 3:16

nothing like resurrecting a year old thread!

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The slide is a forged Series 70 type.
The frame is MIM
The extractor is external.