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02-21-2017, 05:37 PM
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SW22 Victory hard rack
I got a new SW22 and after some rounds it failed to cycle, I thought it was an fte but chamber was empty so it did not loaded a new round. When tried to rack the slide it would not move in either direction. After some wiggle and taking out the magazine and placing it back I got her firing again. Cleaned and lubed the gun and dry tested it and slide is hard to rack after dry firing but nice and easy if racked not fired and racked again. Any ideas?
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02-21-2017, 11:11 PM
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...dry tested it and slide is hard to rack after dry firing but nice and easy if racked not fired and racked again. Any ideas?
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Of course. All hammer-fired guns are this way.
When you dry fire the gun, the hammer goes forward (to strike the cartridge). So when you pull the slide back after dry firing, you not only need the force to move the slide, you also need the force to recock the hammer (which is under heavy spring tension).
Now, if the hammer is cocked, and remains cocked (because you did not dry fire the gun), when you pull the slide back you only need the force to move the slide. You do not need the force to cock the hammer (since it is ALREADY cocked at that point).
As far as your initial problem when you said you couldn't cycle the slide one way or the other, since that did not reoccur, I would tend to write it off as user error. No offense intended, but since you did not know how slide cycling works (when it will be easy to rack, when it will be harder to rack), that makes me think you are pretty new to guns, so maybe subject to some initial user error.
See if your initial problem reoccurs and report back here for more advice if it does. My initial guess might be that you tried to baby the gun too much. That is a tendency when you are new to firearms. You don't want to "hurt" the gun so you pull the slide back very gently and slowly. That is a recipe for problems. Give that slide a forceful movement, don't baby it. You're not going to hurt the gun. Use gusto when cycling the slide of any semi-auto to avoid problems.
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02-22-2017, 07:05 AM
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hope you're using snap caps when dry firing
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02-22-2017, 11:52 AM
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The halo ring from Tandemkross will help with racking the slide after dry firing. It cost about $45, but it's worth it especially when you get a malfunction and it's difficult to rack the slide back to remove the round. Good luck.
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02-22-2017, 05:08 PM
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Make sure you have all the factory grease out of there, also make sure you have oiled the correct places on the slide and safety as well. Keep using it as it will break in after around 300-500 rounds have been run thru it.
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02-22-2017, 08:38 PM
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Thanks for your response. It seems that this pistol does not like the Geco ammo I was feeding. It jammed twice and today it did not ejected, either. It was the gray band Geco, changed to yellow band Geco and no problem at all. Also, did not have any problem with Aguila Super Extra, Federal Champion and Eley Contact. Just learning what she likes.
Haertig, thanks for your comment. I realized that after posting my comment when disassembled the pistol again to verify for problems. And sure I will buy the halo ring from tandemkross as it will be of great help.
So, for now it has some 80 more rounds and hoping for a nice break in.
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02-22-2017, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 32icon
The halo ring from Tandemkross will help with racking the slide after dry firing. It cost about $45, but it's worth it especially when you get a malfunction and it's difficult to rack the slide back to remove the round. Good luck.
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I received my Halo ring and Victory trigger (red) today. The ring does make it a lot easier to work the slide. I'll install the trigger tomorrow.
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02-22-2017, 09:27 PM
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I received my Halo ring and Victory trigger (red) today. The ring does make it a lot easier to work the slide. I'll install the trigger tomorrow.
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They have red now??? You have to post a pic.
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02-22-2017, 09:29 PM
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The trigger, yes. Red, green, black and I believe silver. The Halo is silver or black.
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02-22-2017, 10:59 PM
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The trigger, yes. Red, green, black and I believe silver. The Halo is silver or black.
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Yes, I have the sliver halo and the silver trigger. I haven't installed the trigger yet because I'm afraid it will void my warranty. It's still in its unopened package. I might get up the nerve one of these days. I didn't know it came in red. That's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing.
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02-22-2017, 11:14 PM
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I've got their red trigger in my Ruger MK 4 Hunter. Great.
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02-23-2017, 12:53 AM
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I haven't installed the trigger yet because I'm afraid it will void my warranty.
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Why do you think it will void your warranty? The TandemKross trigger is a good upgrade over the S&W OEM trigger. Mind you, the S&W OEM trigger is actually very good. But the TandemKross is better.
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02-23-2017, 12:49 PM
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Why do you think it will void your warranty? The TandemKross trigger is a good upgrade over the S&W OEM trigger. Mind you, the S&W OEM trigger is actually very good. But the TandemKross is better.
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Any modifications will void your warranty if you ever had to send it back for repair, I presume. Since it's just a plinker, I might chance it. I really enjoy this gun.
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02-23-2017, 07:05 PM
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Any modifications will void your warranty if you ever had to send it back for repair, I presume.
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No. You'll be fine installing aftermarket parts. If the after market part actually damages the gun, sure, that would be a problem for many companies (but some will fix it under warranty anyway). Your aftermarket trigger is fine. You don't have to alter the gun in any way to install the TandemKross trigger. It drops right in. You can always remove it and replace the OEM trigger before sending the gun back for repair. That's a good idea anyway, just so you're assured that your aftermarket parts won't go AWOL and be replaced by factory parts.
Parts are replaced in guns all the time. Factory springs are replaced by Wolff springs, plastic recoil guide rods are replaced by metal ones, the finish is cerakoted, triggers are replaced, barrels are threaded, 3rd party magazines are used, stocks are drilled for sling mounts, stocks are totally replaced, ... Your warranty is not voided by things like this. Now, if you "modified" your gun by sawing the barrel in half, yeah, something extreme like that might trigger a warranty denial. But normal stuff? You're fine.
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