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03-02-2012, 10:01 PM
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I want to buy a .22 for 50 foot range shooting. Thinking about a 622 or 422. Is a 6 inch barrel a lot more accurate than the 4.5 inch ? Or am I going to be beat with the longer barrel every time ? Are there other models I could get or just buy a brand new one. I think that a model 41 is over my head for what I am doing right now. What do you guys think ? I need advice. Thanks
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03-02-2012, 10:20 PM
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I used to have a 422 in 4" and 6", one never seemed more accurate than the other. Both we excellent guns and more accurate than I expected. They are getting harder to find nowadays and prices are going up steadily, so if you want one you better start looking now. Others really like the S&W 22A series, but I don't have enough experience to comment on them.
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03-02-2012, 10:22 PM
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A pistol with a longer sight radius may be easier to shoot ("practical accuracy"), but if you use a solid or mechanical rest a 4.5 and 6" barrel may print the same groups ("mechanical accuracy"). The 422/622 are nice, as are the later 2200 series guns. Any should suit you well for 50 ft target shooting. Hope this is helpful.
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03-03-2012, 01:14 PM
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You may want to consider looking at/joining rimfirecentral.com. They have a Smith & Wesson section devoted to nothing but rimfires and have quite a few threads on the 422/622. I don't have a 422/622, but do have a Model 41. Sure they are expensive, but there is nothing like it - It's a gun that you will never outgrow. Good luck in your search.
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03-03-2012, 01:49 PM
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If you have good vision, the longer sight radius of a 6" gun may give you a bit better accuracy. But I've noticed over the last few years since I turned 40 that shorter sight radius handguns are a bit easier to keep in focus. Getter older stinks.
As for the 422/622, I always thought they were nice plinking and hiking pistols due to their usually good trigger pulls and light weight. But that same lightness may work against you somewhat shooting targets hand held at fifty feet. A bit more weight, especially at the muzzle end, will likely improve your groups. The added heft helps to steady your sights. Most target .22 pistols have heavier barrels for this reason. Nevertheless, I think you wouldn't go wrong in choosing a 422 or 622 for anything less than serious competition.
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If you have good vision, the longer sight radius of a 6" gun may give you a bit better accuracy. But I've noticed over the last few years since I turned 40 that shorter sight radius handguns are a bit easier to keep in focus. Getter older stinks.
As for the 422/622, I always thought they were nice plinking and hiking pistols due to their usually good trigger pulls and light weight. But that same lightness may work against you somewhat shooting targets hand held at fifty feet. A bit more weight, especially at the muzzle end, will likely improve your groups. The added heft helps to steady your sights. Most target .22 pistols have heavier barrels for this reason. Nevertheless, I think you wouldn't go wrong in choosing a 422 or 622 for anything less than serious competition.
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Just an FYI... That color you are using for your font is really hard to read with the current background. Just saying....
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03-04-2012, 09:50 AM
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Sorry for the inconvenience but I don't use the default dark blue color scheme. I went into user settings and utilize the much lighter shade that is the same as the old default. It's much easier on the eyes. You might want to switch yourself.
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Buy a 41. or a ruger mark series. Stock target guns. Forget the others.
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Buy a 41. or a ruger mark series. Stock target guns. Forget the others.
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Sorry, but I got to firm up Tightgroups Ruger bit... I had a friend that I shoot with that had a +/-10" barreled Ruger MkII that we reworked a bit and scoped out for 50 Yd. benchrest and he would consistantly beat the Anschutz bolt 22s at 50yd. benchrest... I also remember at one time he had over 160 k rds. through it, and it was still hammering... Don't know how many rounds it had when the barrel/boltface finally got battered and it lost some of its accuracy, but he sent it back to Ruger and they re-did it and chewed us out for what we did to the gun... He never did, but I told him he sholud cut out the Clark customs adds with their 25 yd. groups and send them those and some of his smaller 50 yd. groups and ask why...lol... They even replaced the trigger that we worked hours on, and had to a very good match trigger... BTW-It never shot as good after either...
Not knocking the Smiths, that was a different game, and different bat...
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Ruger's policy about mods is they will return the gun to factory specs, at your expense. Now, its a liability issue. If you made it unsafe, and they didn't correct it, they can be at fault for not protecting you from yourself.
I have a 10/22, a Mark II 22/45 and a Mark III.
I compete with my Mark II 22/45. It has a 4" bull barrel, and is pretty light. Probably too light. I shoot better with my Mark III 5.5" bull barrel. Heavier and better ballanced. You may have noticed that better target pistols can utilize barrel weights to make them more balanced to your specific needs. The S&W 41/46 use barrel weights, as does the Walther P22 series (I think the 3 and 4) Others do as well.
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Ruger's policy about mods is they will return the gun to factory specs, at your expense. Now, its a liability issue. If you made it unsafe, and they didn't correct it, they can be at fault for not protecting you from yourself.
I have a 10/22, a Mark II 22/45 and a Mark III.
I compete with my Mark II 22/45. It has a 4" bull barrel, and is pretty light. Probably too light. I shoot better with my Mark III 5.5" bull barrel. Heavier and better ballanced. You may have noticed that better target pistols can utilize barrel weights to make them more balanced to your specific needs. The S&W 41/46 use barrel weights, as does the Walther P22 series (I think the 3 and 4) Others do as well.
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Oh yeah, thats the way it is, but I'll bet that one of the techs is shooting that trigger now...lol... I don't shoot 22 BR anymore, but still have my Anschutz BR 50 rifle, I'm not humpteen dollars a box for the match 22 ammo, and test and test with it to find a good lot number, thats what it takes though to be a winner... I can shoot F-class 600 & 1,000 yds. matches with my 6.5x284 or 6mm Dasher cheaper and have as good if not better shot at winning...
Have a good one...XPman...
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Thanks everyone for the input. I am leaning towards a S&W 41 if I can buy one reasonable. Quite a few on gun broke that are pricey but a history check shows that those are not selling. I think I will shop around for a while or maybe buy new, then I know I can get parts for it and have a warranty on it. Any more advice is welcome.
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join rimfirecentral and check out the classifieds. 41s and 46s show up there maybe 1-2 times a month.
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I bought a Beretta Neos a couple weeks ago and already have 700 rounds through it. It is very accurate. With the 4.5 inch barrel, I only paid $214 at Bud's Gunshop. There is also a 6" barrel model and although I have heard that the model with the 7.5" barrel is no longer available, there are still some of the barrels out there. Good luck.
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You will never wrong with a 41. I have to speak up for the humble 22A, mine is a tack driver. Nothing impressive, until you start pulling the trigger.
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3.3" at 50yds with one hand is the game.
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The Berretta Neo's is a great gun as well as I have had one as well as a 22A which I kept but sold the Berretta. I also have a M46 in good shape as well which I really like and was the reason for selling the Berretta as I didn't need 3 of them. MIne had the 6" barrel and was a good shooter for sure.
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I have a S&W 2206. It is the Stainless Steel version and it is heavier than the 422/622. I have a 6 inch and it is very accurate and a pleasure to shoot. If you plan to use a scope then a 4 inch barrel will do but if you will be using the iron sights, the a 6 inch would be better for the longer sight radius.
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Some guns have a front sight that is too wide, and covers the target. I have a Beretta 87 Target, and a Walther 22A Target. The 87 T is about the same money as a 41, which is also an excellent gun. The Walther costs less. Our club shoots informal CMP matches at 25, and 50 yards. I use a Marvel Precision 22 upper on a Kimber frame that had a shot out barrel. It uses a fixed barrel, and is quite accurate. Ammo is all over the place for accuracy though.
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Wanted a new 41 but they are not around and may not hit the stores for another year. So I bought a 4.5 inch 422. My eyes do not focus as well as they as they used to, so I got the shorter sight radius. Just getting started so this will have to do, but HEY, it's a S&W so my collection just got bigger again. If I get real serious in competition I will buy a new 41 when they come out. I will just give the 422 to my wife, think she's already wanting it.
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Sounds like a great choice. I'm sure it will work well for you.
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How about a 2206 with B-Square scope mount? (Gotta love out-of-production items!)
This is one I got for my sons to learn to shoot semi-autos with, now just to figure out red-dot scope or reflex/holographic sight.
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