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Planning on doing a tiny bit of welding and I need to know what the specific material S&W used in making the 4566TSW frames. I'm assuming something akin to a 400 series stainless or possibly 17-4PH. Anyway, just wondering if someone here who's in the know could tell me the what exact alloy is. Thanks.

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Planning on doing a tiny bit of welding and I need to know what the specific material S&W used in making the 4566TSW frames. I'm assuming something akin to a 400 series stainless or possibly 17-4PH. Anyway, just wondering if someone here who's in the know could tell me the what exact alloy is. Thanks.

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That ain't no alloy chief, thats that there real shiny steel, whut don't oxidate. An that there smith and wesson don't need no gun mount for yur jet ski! No sir you just tie rap that thang to the hanel bars.
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As a welder I know what you want. I got a 629 and got out my magnet. When parts acted like plain steel (magnetic) I called S&W tech support. They told me what alloy each piece was. No cost. Do a search online for the phone number.
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That ain't no alloy chief, thats that there real shiny steel, whut don't oxidate. An that there smith and wesson don't need no gun mount for yur jet ski! No sir you just tie rap that thang to the hanel bars.
Steel is a metal alloy whose major component is iron, with carbon content between 0.02% and 2.14% by mass.
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Dust cover holes from the scabbed on rail need to go away in such a manner that it appears there were never any holes there to begin with. I'm thinking laser weld or micro tig.

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Well after being put on hold a few times while the customer service lad scurries about the S&W building asking different folks... I'm told it's 410 steel.

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I'm told it's 410 steel.

Got no clue what that means, but I'm sure you are now armed with the necessary knowledge to work your magic one more time! I'm hoisting a cold one as we speak, Master Chief, to toast a successful outcome.

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Thank you, new project under development/gathering parts & pieces... and FYI...

About 410 stainless steel...

Chemical Formula...
Fe, <0.15% C, 11.5-13.5% Cr, >0.75% Ni, <1.0% Mn, <1.0% Si, <0.04% P, <0.03% S
Fe=Iron C=Carbon Cr=Chromium Ni=Nickle Mn=Manganese Si=Silicon P=Phosphorus and lastly S=Sulpher

Now I need to find me some little skinny 410 filler rod.


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Bill, you know we all hope to see the current project with the narrative and PICTURES, so we all may follow along with your new journey down the Smith&Wesson road......
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A smart feller like you could prolly make some money weldin up them ugly IL holes, any way I looked long and hard at a 3913 with a rail, and said nyet for that very reason, and I have yet to overcome my aversion to that lock, in spite of S an W coming up with some very neat guns. Carry on Chief and we definetly would like to see the finished product. billy
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